Gawain 0 #1 October 19, 2007 So, in the past two weeks, we have seen the following failures by the democratic leadership in Congress: -- Failure to override veto on SCHIP, Speaker Pelosi's failure. -- Withdraw of Armenian Genocide House Resolution, Speaker Pelosi's misstep. -- Sen. Reid's smear blows back in his face, and Mr. Limbaugh raises over $4M in support of mc-lef.org of which he's been a long time supporter...all stemming from a complete fabrication and overstep of power. Of course, Congress did increase the minimum wage, but most democrats voted against it, including Sens. Clinton and Obama. They've also named a couple of post offices. All-in-all, a year without them getting dug into our lives, I'd say that's a good year.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #2 October 19, 2007 We're still in Iraq, too, Max. Don't forget, the Dems need the War issue to win. They've been focusing on healthcare early to get it into people's subconsciousness, but the war will retrun mightily once primaries are over. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #3 October 19, 2007 QuoteWe're still in Iraq, too, Max. I haven't heard much in the media about Iraq in the last few weeks. This is from a recent Pentagon press briefing: QuoteHere are some figures. Murders are down from a peak of over 161 reported murders per week a year ago to less than 5 per week now, and our continued efforts to defeat sectarian expansion continue to drive these numbers down. IED and small arms attacks are down from a peak of 50 per week in June to less than 5 per week since the end of August. And vehicle-borne IED attacks are down nearly 85 percent due to our combined efforts to defeat the Karkh VBIED and IED networks -- which has had a tremendous impact on insurgents' ability to instruct and employ those types of weapons effectively. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 October 19, 2007 Charlie Gibson the other night said "The news from Iraq is, there is no news" There were no roadside bombings, no killings or kidnappings and this he said was coming from the Iraq police. Interesting bit of "no news"."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymiles 3 #5 October 19, 2007 QuoteSo, in the past two weeks, we have seen the following failures by the democratic leadership in Congress: -- Failure to override veto on SCHIP, Speaker Pelosi's failure. -- Withdraw of Armenian Genocide House Resolution, Speaker Pelosi's misstep. -- Sen. Reid's smear blows back in his face, and Mr. Limbaugh raises over $4M in support of mc-lef.org of which he's been a long time supporter...all stemming from a complete fabrication and overstep of power. Of course, Congress did increase the minimum wage, but most democrats voted against it, including Sens. Clinton and Obama. They've also named a couple of post offices. All-in-all, a year without them getting dug into our lives, I'd say that's a good year. Now let’s compare that to the successes of the Republican Bush Administration. Failed to prevent 911. Invading a country that had nothing to do with 911 and had no capacity to attack the US at the cost of nearly 3900 troop deaths, 27000 casualties, and hundreds of billions of dollars and counting A military that is bogged down in the middle of a civil war with no exit strategy and no sign of political reconciliation. Al Qaeda is now in Iraq where they were not before and using our troops for target practice. Diverted resources from Afghanistan turning success there into failure. Iran taking advantage of quagmire in Iraqi. A stalemate in Iraq now substitutes for progress or winning (the word victory dropped from vocabulary) Failed to respond quickly and adequately to Katrina because Bush appointed his cronies with no experience. Broken boarders and no immigration policy. ... on and on Ya, all in all, it’s been a great 7 years and a good thing they didn't get dug into our lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 October 19, 2007 Quote Quote So, in the past two weeks, we have seen the following failures by the democratic leadership in Congress: -- Failure to override veto on SCHIP, Speaker Pelosi's failure. -- Withdraw of Armenian Genocide House Resolution, Speaker Pelosi's misstep. -- Sen. Reid's smear blows back in his face, and Mr. Limbaugh raises over $4M in support of mc-lef.org of which he's been a long time supporter...all stemming from a complete fabrication and overstep of power. Of course, Congress did increase the minimum wage, but most democrats voted against it, including Sens. Clinton and Obama. They've also named a couple of post offices. All-in-all, a year without them getting dug into our lives, I'd say that's a good year. Now let’s compare that to the successes of the Republican Bush Administration. Failed to prevent 911. Invading a country that had nothing to do with 911 and had no capacity to attack the US at the cost of nearly 3900 troop deaths, 27000 casualties, and hundreds of billions of dollars and counting A military that is bogged down in the middle of a civil war with no exit strategy and no sign of political reconciliation. Al Qaeda is now in Iraq where they were not before and using our troops for target practice. Diverted resources from Afghanistan turning success there into failure. Iran taking advantage of quagmire in Iraqi. A stalemate in Iraq now substitutes for progress or winning (the word victory dropped from vocabulary) Failed to respond quickly and adequately to Katrina because Bush appointed his cronies with no experience. Broken boarders and no immigration policy. ... on and on Ya, all in all, it’s been a great 7 years and a good thing they didn't get dug into our lives. DING DING DING We have a winner.!!!!! Yes, you have corretly listed every talking point and lie issued buy the left wing hate Bush syndrom inflictees. Yes, a winner"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #7 October 19, 2007 QuoteCharlie Gibson the other night said "The news from Iraq is, there is no news" There were no roadside bombings, no killings or kidnappings and this he said was coming from the Iraq police. Interesting bit of "no news". I think maybe they are a bit tied up in Pakistan at the moment. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymiles 3 #8 October 19, 2007 No, no, no, you too are a winner. That was a perfect use of the “hate Bush” comeback. I would expect nothing less from you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #9 October 19, 2007 Quote -- Failure to override veto on SCHIP, Speaker Pelosi's failure. -- Withdraw of Armenian Genocide House Resolution, Speaker Pelosi's misstep. -- Sen. Reid's smear blows back in his face, and Mr. Limbaugh raises over $4M in support of mc-lef.org of which he's been a long time supporter...all stemming from a complete fabrication and overstep of power. Regarding the first, good. Someone's crotch dropping is not my problem. I'm glad the veto stood. Regarding the second-why piss off the Turks, who are the closest thing we have to an ally in the Middle East, especially for a bit of mental masturbation resolution that really accomplishes nothing?? Re the third--meh, don't care.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 October 19, 2007 With the BIG exception of Iraq (kinda like, "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?") the other failures were of prior administrations. QuoteFailed to prevent 911. The plan was in action for a while before. CLinton was the Chief Executive while everythnig but final execution was occurring. QuoteFailed to respond quickly and adequately to Katrina because Bush appointed his cronies with no experience Yes - none with things as massive as that. Katrina was a massive failure of planning, coordination and execution that dates back years. And since we hadn't seen an event like this since Okeechobee, well, it's what we get for relying on the government. QuoteBroken boarders and no immigration policy. Man, you're in Cali. I remember issues about broken borders back in the late 1970's. Quoteno immigration policy. Bush tried to change it. It wouldn't have worked, but he tried. Every administration everywhere has failures. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #11 October 19, 2007 QuoteWith the BIG exception of Iraq (kinda like, "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?") the other failures were of prior administrations. QuoteFailed to prevent 911. The plan was in action for a while before. CLinton was the Chief Executive while everythnig but final execution was occurring. QuoteFailed to respond quickly and adequately to Katrina because Bush appointed his cronies with no experience Yes - none with things as massive as that. Katrina was a massive failure of planning, coordination and execution that dates back years. And since we hadn't seen an event like this since Okeechobee, well, it's what we get for relying on the government. QuoteBroken boarders and no immigration policy. Man, you're in Cali. I remember issues about broken borders back in the late 1970's. Quoteno immigration policy. Bush tried to change it. It wouldn't have worked, but he tried. Every administration everywhere has failures. So tell us about how Bush and his GOP cronies fixed up Social Security, his stated #1 priority during the 2000 campaign, and again during the 2004 campaign. Tell us how he captured OBL, also his first priority for a few weeks, until it wasn't a priority at all. Tell us about his fiscal responsibility, running up even more debt than Reagan and GHWB combined (unimaginable as that seems). Tell us how good it is for us that the $US is hitting record lows.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 October 19, 2007 Man, you're in Cali. I remember issues about broken borders back in the late 1970's. Quote That seems to explain your prescence Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #13 October 19, 2007 QuoteSo tell us about how Bush and his GOP cronies fixed up Social Security, his stated #1 priority during the 2000 campaign, and again during the 2004 campaign. Tell us how he captured OBL, also his first priority for a few weeks, until it wasn't a priority at all. Tell us about his fiscal responsibility, running up even more debt than Reagan and GHWB combined (unimaginable as that seems). Tell us how good it is for us that the $US is hitting record lows. I won't. It's all bad. But broken Social Security aint' his fault. He hasn't fixed it. OBL? yes, his administration's fault. Fiscal responsibility among politicians is an oxymoron (note - the US debt was higher when every president left office than when they entered since at least FDR.) Bush and the Republican Congress were simply remarkably good at fucking up. The dollar? Yeah, there may be some good to it for somebody. I don't like it, but... Prof - I'm not a Bush defender. In some ways he's worse than others. In other way he's no worse. It's finding places he was BETTER than others that is difficult. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #14 October 19, 2007 Quote Man, you're in Cali. I remember issues about broken borders back in the late 1970's. Quote That seems to explain your prescence 1. What is "prescence"? Do you mean prescience? 2. Why address this reply to me? - lawrocket wrote that comment anyway. Is this just continuing the harrassment?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #15 October 19, 2007 Harrasment ceased I know how to treat others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #16 October 20, 2007 Broken boarders and no immigration policy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteMan, you're in Cali. I remember issues about broken borders back in the late 1970's. I'm glad you deciphered it. I thought that it was about day laborers not being able to pay their rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites