mnealtx 0 #1 October 26, 2007 ...and I hope they win!! From CBS and I'm sure many other sources...hit the link for the full story. Excerpt: Quote(CBS) On March 3, 2006, Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew A. Snyder was killed in the Al Anbar province of Iraq. His father, Albert Snyder, buried him on March 20 at St. John's Catholic Church in Westminster, Md.. It was supposed to be a peaceful, private ceremony. But the funeral was interrupted by members of the church. "The protesters — Westboro Baptist Church — showed up with their signs, their hatred," Snyder said. According to Snyder's attorney Sean Summers, the demonstrators bore their infamous "God Hates Fags" signs, as well as a lesser used "Semper Fi Fags" sign, particularly offensive to the dead Marine's family. Though Phelps-Roper maintains that the protesters "were hundreds — hundreds — of yards from where the funeral was," Snyder was forced to travel past them to enter. "To be honest with you, I tried not to focus on (the protest), and more on my son," he said. But according to the lawsuit, the church's presence was emotionally damaging to the already grieving father. Postings by Phelps-Roper on the church's Web site following the protest that claimed Snyder "taught Matthew to defy his Creator, to divorce, and to commit adultery," and "raised him for the devil," further added to the father's pain. The lawsuit says Westboro knowingly violated Snyder's privacy, defamed him and was an intentional infliction of emotional distress against the bereaved father. In addition to general damages, the lawsuit is seeking punitive damages against the church to act as a deterrent against future protests,Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 October 26, 2007 I'm curious about the progress of this, as the article you linked is from July 2006. I know that arguments have been prepared, but I don't know how to really research the progress of litigation/civil trial events.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #3 October 26, 2007 Quote... the article you linked is from July 2006. . Electrons move more slowly in the Balkans.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 October 26, 2007 QuoteQuote... the article you linked is from July 2006. . Electrons move more slowly in the Balkans. It's those ancient generators slowing everything down... actually, I came upon the story in a news crawler and wanted to find a source BESIDES Fox to appease the SC majority populace.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #5 October 26, 2007 I think this is a very tenuous thread the plaintiffs are clinging to here. Regardless what our personal feelings may be toward the WBC, the ramifications of a successful lawsuit would be large. It seems to me that if the WBC can be sued for their actions, so can pro-life demonstrators who emotionally damage both women using the clinic as well as the staff. Environmentalists can be accused of emotionally damaging loggers on their way to work, and what about those who yell "scab" at replacement workers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 October 26, 2007 While other have pointed out the link in your story is old, I have seen other links about it this morning, although it isn't clear to me what has changed. Here is today's NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/26/us/26funeral.html?ref=us"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #7 October 26, 2007 Eventhough I do not agree with the WBC, isn't this part of their right to free speech, as protected by the US constitution? Wouldn't the winning of this lawsuit result in a serious infringement on that right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #8 October 26, 2007 This has resurfaced because the trial is going on right now. Here's another story. It may be the same one you linked. http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_7277523?source=most_viewed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquilax 0 #9 October 26, 2007 QuoteEventhough I do not agree with the WBC, isn't this part of their right to free speech, as protected by the US constitution? Wouldn't the winning of this lawsuit result in a serious infringement on that right? Research the "Fighting words" exception to free speech.Ostriches and rheas are the only birds that urinate and defecate separately. They read Parachutist while doing #2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #10 October 26, 2007 QuoteResearch the "Fighting words" exception to free speech. mere offensiveness does not qualify as "fighting words". Street v. New York (1969) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 October 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteResearch the "Fighting words" exception to free speech. mere offensiveness does not qualify as "fighting words". Street v. New York (1969) Was the deceased actually gay? If not, then a libel/slander suit could be in order."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #12 October 26, 2007 QuoteWas the deceased actually gay? If not, then a libel/slander suit could be in order. Might be tough, since from what I can read the deceased was not specifically addressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #13 October 26, 2007 The pastor of WBC, Phelps-Roper, is the biggest asshole in America outside of government. Fucking douchebag... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 October 26, 2007 "Though Phelps-Roper maintains that the protesters "were hundreds — hundreds — of yards from where the funeral was," Snyder was forced to travel past them to enter. " Just a final nail in the reasons why this case will fail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
btvr 0 #15 October 26, 2007 Don't you just love extreme religion? It would be nice if the bible thumpers practiced what they preached. Self rightous assholes. (just this group, not all relgions) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #16 October 26, 2007 Don't you just love extreme religion? It would be nice if the bible thumpers practiced what they preached. Self rightous assholes. (just this group, not all relgions) *** all religions have their freaks.... these particular ones are merely in the spotlight rather than in the dark corners with the rest of the cockroaches.. RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #17 October 27, 2007 Yep, this group is a bunch of twats but I'm not real comfortable with the whole suing for "emotional distress" thing. Here's another idea. Get a street vendor's permit and go to wherever they're holding their demonstrations & sell eggs. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #18 October 27, 2007 Quote Yep, this group is a bunch of twats but I'm not real comfortable with the whole suing for "emotional distress" thing. Here's another idea. Get a street vendor's permit and go to wherever they're holding their demonstrations & sell eggs. Oh, I LIKE that idea!!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #19 October 27, 2007 I will admit that the WBC are a bunch of right-wing loons, and that's being polite. Anyone on the left willing to list who they think are left-wing loons? _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #20 October 27, 2007 Quote"Though Phelps-Roper maintains that the protesters "were hundreds — hundreds — of yards from where the funeral was," Snyder was forced to travel past them to enter. " Just a final nail in the reasons why this case will fail. That's what I thought untill I read this on page two..."Postings by Phelps-Roper on the church's Web site following the protest that claimed Snyder "taught Matthew to defy his Creator, to divorce, and to commit adultery," and "raised him for the devil," further added to the father's pain.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #21 October 30, 2007 The WBC claim to be a Christian Church. I think they skipped over the 'Sermon on the Mount' and the 'Beattitudes' while reading their bibles.BTW, I'm still waiting for someone on the left to tell us who they think are left-wing loons. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #22 October 30, 2007 Quote I think they skipped over the 'Sermon on the Mount' and the 'Beattitudes' while reading their bibles.[Crazy ] I think they skipped over the entire New Testament! Those a-holes came to my town two weeks ago. I didn't know there was so many of them. Why couldn't they stay where they were? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #23 October 30, 2007 QuoteI think they skipped over the 'Sermon on the Mount' and the 'Beattitudes' while reading their bibles. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think they skipped over the entire New Testament! Those a-holes came to my town two weeks ago. I didn't know there was so many of them. Why couldn't they stay where they were? I think you answered your own question. They're a-holes. They label themselves as 'Christians'. This proves that you can label yourself anything you want, but it doesn't make it so. Hell, I can go to any sporting goods store and buy myself a Red Sox uniform. It wouldn't make me a world champion baseball player. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #24 October 30, 2007 >I'm still waiting for someone on the left to tell us who they think are >left-wing loons. Don't know if I qualify (since I don't vote democratic) but here's a partial list: PETA the ELF/ALF The US Communist Party Jesse Jackson Matt Damon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #25 October 31, 2007 ooh, if hollywood is in the mix, don't forget Steven Seagal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
