BIDEN Unveils Most Comprehensive Anti-crime Legislation in Over a Decade AWB

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biden.senate.gov/newsroom/details.cfm?id=286107&
October 25, 2007
Press Release

BIDEN Unveils Most Comprehensive Anti-crime Legislation in Over a Decade


BIDEN Builds upon revolutionary approach of 1994 Biden Crime Bill while promoting new, innovative programs to focus on today’s problems

Washington, DC– Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs and author of the landmark 1994 Crime Bill, Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) unveiled today the most comprehensive anti-crime legislation in over a decade. The 2007 Biden Crime Bill builds upon the revolutionary approach of his 1994 legislation, while promoting new, innovative programs to focus on today’s problems.

In the 1990s, our nation was facing a coast-to-coast crime wave. As a response, Sen. Biden authored the historic 1994 Crime Bill, which is credited by many as driving down crime rates to the lowest in a generation. Unfortunately, due largely to cuts to programs contained in the 1994 Bill, our nation is now facing a similar crime crisis. Last month, the FBI released its 2006 crime report based on data from the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) database. For the second consecutive year, there were measurable increases in violent crime nationwide. This is the first time the crime rate has risen for two years in a row since the passage of the 1994 Biden Crime Bill, with violent crimes increasing 1.9 percent nationally. In 2005, the FBI found that murders were up 3.4 percent – the largest percentage increase in 15 years – with 16,692 murders in 2005 – the most since 1998.

“It should be a surprise to no one that crime is up for the second year in a row,” said Sen. Biden. “The federal government has taken its focus off of street crime since 9/11, asking law enforcement to do more with less. Fewer police on the street protecting communities, plus fewer FBI agents focused on crime control, plus fewer federal law enforcement dollars equals more crime – it's as simple that. We need to meet this problem head-on, with a comprehensive approach that blends traditional crime-fighting tools with 2007 technology.”

The 2007 Biden Crime Bill builds upon the three-part approach which reduced crime in the 1990s: invest in prevention programs, dedicate federal support to community-oriented policing, and ensure that offenders serve tough-but-fair prison sentences. The bill also addresses the problems of 2007, such as computer hacking, on-line child exploitation, intellectual property violations, and teenage prescription drug abuse. The bill focuses on the new challenges everyday police officers face. For example, in a post 9/11 world, our nation is asking our police to shoulder increased homeland security duties, with less and less federal resources. In addition, the Bush Administration has transitioned approximately 1,000 FBI agents away from traditional crime-fighting, to focus on terrorism. To help deal with these new problems, the 2007 Biden Crime Bill authorizes funds to hire 50,000 new police officers and 1,000 new FBI agents specifically to focus on traditional crime.

“Fighting terrorism is and should be a top priority for the FBI,” said Sen. Biden. “But it’s a false choice between fighting terrorism and fighting crime - we can walk and chew gum at the same time.”

“Since 1994, the COPS funding has assisted the Delaware State Police in bringing many innovative policing initiatives to bear in the fight against violent crime and, also, in ensuring that we protect the homeland,” Delaware State Police Lt. Col. Mark Seifert said. “We added countless tools to our troopers’ toolboxes – such as mobile data computers, automated fingerprint analysis systems, in car cameras – and these tools are critical to success in fighting crime and terrorism. With a gathering storm of violent crime being evidenced nationwide, the Delaware State Police looks for further federal assistance in expanding our ranks of troopers through the ‘COPS universal hiring’ and ‘Troops to COPS’ programs. We’ve been fortunate to keep pace and grow our organization through state allocated funds, but the COPS office plays a critical role in helping the State Police to foster innovation in meeting the demands of our communities.”

Specifically, the 2007 Biden Crime Bill will:

Reauthorize the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS). A Brookings Institute study determined that for every $1.4 billion invested in hiring law enforcement officers, society will get back $6 billion to $12 billion. The 2007 Biden Crime Bill revitalizes the Department of Justice COPS program by authorizing $1.15 billion per year, with $600 million set aside for hiring over the next six years – resulting in a benefit to society of $15.4 to $30 billion. The legislation authorizes: $600 million per year for the police hiring program – enough for up to 50,000 officers to combat terrorism, school violence, and engage in community policing; $350 million per year for police departments to acquire new technology and equipment to track and fight crime; and $200 million per year to help local district attorneys hire and train community prosecutors. Over the next six years we can expect roughly a 5% reduction in the crime rate based on a Government Accountability Office (GAO) study of the effect of COPS from 1993 to 2000.

Add 1,000 FBI Agents to Focus on Traditional Crime. Since 2001, between 1,000 and 2,400 FBI criminal investigators have been transitioned away from traditional crime fighting to focus on terrorism – without being replaced. The Bush Administration’s budget calls for cutting more than 650 positions from the criminal program while transferring hundreds more agents to terrorism-prevention operations. The 2007 Biden Crime Bill authorizes funding for an additional 1,000 FBI field agents to fight violent crime so that the FBI does not have to continue to make the trade-off between fighting crime and terrorism—they must do both. A total of $160 million per year for the next four years is authorized for this purpose.

Add 500 Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) Agents to Fight Drug Trafficking. The DEA has been suffering from a hiring freeze that has crippled the agency’s ability to deny funding to drug trafficking organizations. The 2007 Biden Crime Bill authorizes these desperately needed agents. Earlier this year, DEA Administrator Karen Tandy testified to a House subcommittee about the effect of the DEA hiring freeze: “[T]he impact of the freeze and the loss of these positions is expected to amount to 180-plus fewer primary drug organizations that we will be able to disrupt or dismantle, and most likely, approximately $300 million less in revenue that we will be able to deny the traffickers.” While circumstances are slowly improving at DEA, there should be a vigorous effort to restore the special agent positions lost through attrition. This provision achieves that.

Reduce Recidivism. If we are going to reduce recidivism and crime, we simply have to make concerted, common-sense efforts now to help the 650,000 ex-offenders released from Federal and State prisons every year successfully re-enter and re-integrate into their communities. Currently, ex-offenders make a real contribution to our rising crime rates – two-thirds of released State prisoners will be rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within three years of release. The 2007 Biden Crime Bill provides more than $1 billion for substance abuse treatment programs, academic and vocational education programs, housing and job counseling programs, and mentoring for offenders who are approaching release and who have been released.

Create A National Commission on Crime Intervention And Prevention Strategies. There is a sea of information on intervention and prevention strategies and we need a central source to identify intervention and prevention programs that are most ready for replication around the country. We also must provide resources and guidance in a direct and accessible format to state and local law enforcement on how to implement those strategies. The 2007 Biden Crime Bill will create a National Commission to address these issues and provide this kind of information and resources.

Curb the Rise in Prescription and Over-the-Counter Drug Abuse. Trends in drug abuse are like a balloon: squeeze one side of the balloon, and the other side expands. Recently reports show that abuse of prescription drugs, including popular painkillers, are on the rise. 1 in 5 teens has abused a prescription medication and 1 in 10 has gotten high off over-the-counter cough and cold medicines. The 2007 Biden Crime Bill counters this movement by restoring and ratcheting up critical funding for prevention and treatment, authorizing new grant programs that are tailored to emerging drug threats, and shutting down rogue, Internet pharmacies that distill these dangerous drugs without a valid prescription.

Stop Senseless Gun Violence: Renewing the Assault Weapons Ban and Closing the Gun Show Loophole. The Biden Crime Bill provides for a straight-forward reauthorization of the assault weapons ban that became law in 1994 and it closes the so-called gun show loophole by requiring all gun show sales submit to federal background checks, just like any store-based firearm sale.

Update Current Law to Keep Up with Changing Technologies: The 2007 Biden Crime Bill also updates federal laws relating to child exploitation and violence against children, drug possession and trafficking, firearms, computer crimes and intellectual property and victims rights.

The 2007 Biden Crime Bill enjoys the support of many leading law enforcement groups, including the International Chiefs of Police and the National Association of Police Organizations.

Sen. Biden was joined at a press conference unveiling this new legislation by several Chiefs of Police and representatives of local law enforcement from his home state of Delaware: Lt. Colonel Mark Seifert of the Delaware State Police; Major Stewart Snyder of New Castle County Police; Jeff Horvath, Chief of Dover Police; Mike Capriglione, Chief of Newport Police and president of the Delaware Police Chiefs Council; Neal Strauss, Chief of Elsmere Police; Trinidad Navarro of New Castle County Police; Billy Toppings, Chief of Georgetown Police; and Martin Johnson, Coordinator of the Delaware Police Chiefs Council and retired Major from the Delaware State Police.
At the press conference, Sen. Biden also released a report called “Crime in America: The Federal Government’s Responsibility to Help Fight Crime in our Communities.”

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[Joe Biden Voice]
I know the AWB did nothing to reduce crime last time, in fact the crime rate went up dramatically, but I swear it will work this time, it really really will...I swear it will![/Joe Biden Voice]

The only causation of gun violence is assault weapons according to Joe Biden, yep let's focus on an object and not the indemic lack of respect for others, coupled with the Gangsta mentality shoveled down the throats of our nations youths

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There is no gun show loophole. I have bought pistols at gun shows and in retail stores and the paperwork and background check have been done the same way in both places. It is just an effort by the anti-gun crowd to shut down gun shows altogether.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Don't let truth stand in the way of an anti gun politician, remember we need to ban all legal firearms, so criminals will stop committing crimes.

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Don't let truth stand in the way of an anti gun politician, remember we need to ban all legal firearms, so criminals will stop committing crimes.

True, ilk like Biden has to protect us from ourselves because he knows whats best for us.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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What a 'tard. Like assault weapons cause crimes. Sheesh. Dumbass.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

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Subtitle B--Assault Weapons Ban Renewal Act of 2007

SEC. 6201. SHORT TITLE.

This subtitle may be cited as the `Assault Weapons Ban Renewal Act of 2007'.

SEC. 6202. RESTRICTION ON MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, AND POSSESSION OF CERTAIN SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.

(a) Restriction- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after subsection (u) the following:

`(v)(1) Except as provided in paragraphs (2) through (5) it shall be unlawful for a person to manufacture, transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon .

`(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer of any semiautomatic assault weapon otherwise lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date of the enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban Renewal Act of 2007.

`(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--

`(A) any of the firearms, or replicas or duplicates of the firearms, specified in Appendix A to this section, as such firearms were manufactured on October 1, 1993;

`(B) any firearm that--

`(i) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action;

`(ii) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or

`(iii) is an antique firearm;

`(C) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than 5 rounds of ammunition; or

`(D) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than 5 rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine.

`(4) The fact that a firearm is not listed in Appendix A shall not be construed to mean that paragraph (1) applies to such firearm.

`(5) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--

`(A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);

`(B) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials;

`(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving a firearm, of a semiautomatic assault weapon transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or

`(D) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General.'.

(b) Definition of Semiautomatic Assault Weapon - Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after paragraph (29) the following:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means the following:

`(A) Any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--

`(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);

`(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;

`(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);

`(iv) Colt AR-15;

`(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;

`(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;

`(vii) Steyr AUG;

`(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; or

`(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12.

`(B)(i) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the features described in clause (ii).

`(ii) The features described in this clause are--

`(I) a folding or telescoping stock;

`(II) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon ;

`(III) a bayonet mount;

`(IV) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

`(V) a grenade launcher.

`(C)(i) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the features described in clause (ii).

`(ii) The features described in this clause are--

`(I) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

`(II) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;

`(III) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

`(IV) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and

`(V) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

`(D)(i) A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of the features described in clause (ii).

`(ii) The features described in this clause are--

`(I) a folding or telescoping stock;

`(II) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon ;

`(III) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and

`(IV) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.'.

(c) Penalties-

(1) VIOLATION OF SECTION 922(v)- Section 924(a)(1)(B) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking `or (q) of section 922' and inserting `(r), or (v) of section 922'.

(2) USE OR POSSESSION DURING CRIME OF VIOLENCE OR DRUG TRAFFICKING CRIME- Section 924(c)(1)(B)(i) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting `or semiautomatic assault weapon ,' after `short-barreled shotgun,'.

(d) Identification Markings for Semiautomatic Assault Weapons- Section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following: `The serial number of any semiautomatic assault weapon manufactured after the date of the enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban Renewal Act of 2007 shall clearly show the date on which the weapon was manufactured.'.

SEC. 6203. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.

(a) Prohibition- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after subsection (u), as added by this Act, the following:

`(w)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

`(2)(A) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer of any large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully possessed on or before the date of the enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban Renewal Act of 2007.

`(B) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--

`(i) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);

`(ii) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials;

`(iii) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or

`(iv) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of any large capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General.

`(3) If a person charged with violating paragraph (1) asserts that paragraph (1) does not apply to such person because of subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (2), the Government shall have the burden of proof to show that such paragraph (1) applies to such person. The lack of a serial number as described in section 923(i) of this title shall establish a presumption that the large capacity ammunition feeding device is not subject to the prohibition of possession in paragraph (1).'.

(b) Definition of Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(b), is amended by inserting after paragraph (30), as added by this Act, the following:

`(31) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'--

`(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban Renewal Act of 2007 that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and

`(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.'.

(c) Penalty- Section 924(a)(1)(B) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by this Act, is amended by striking `or (v)' and inserting `(v), or (w)'.

(d) Identification Markings for Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices- Section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following: `A large capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban Renewal Act of 2007 shall be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that the device was manufactured or imported after the effective date of this subsection, and such other identification as the Attorney General may by regulation prescribe.'.

SEC. 6204. STUDY BY ATTORNEY GENERAL.

(a) Study- The Attorney General shall investigate and study the effect of this subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle, and in particular shall determine their impact, if any, on violent and drug trafficking crime. The study shall be conducted over the 18-month period beginning 12 months after the date of enactment of this Act.

(b) Report- Not later than 30 months after the date of enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall submit to Congress a report setting forth in detail the findings and determinations made in the study under subsection (a).

SEC. 6205. EFFECTIVE DATE.

This subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle--

(1) shall take effect on the date of enactment of this Act; and

(2) are repealed effective as of the date that is 10 years after that date of enactment.

SEC. 6206. APPENDIX A TO SECTION 922 OF TITLE 18.

Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following appendix:

APPENDIX A.

`Centerfire Rifles--Autoloaders- Browning BAR Mark II Safari Semi-Auto Rifle

Browning BAR Mark II Safari Magnum Rifle

`Browning High-Power Rifle

`Heckler & Koch Model 300 Rifle

`Iver Johnson M-1 Carbine

`Iver Johnson 50th Anniversary M-1 Carbine

`Marlin Model 9 Camp Carbine

`Marlin Model 45 Carbine

`Remington Nylon 66 Auto-Loading Rifle

`Remington Model 7400 Auto Rifle

`Remington Model 7400 Rifle

`Remington Model 7400 Special Purpose Auto Rifle

`Ruger Mini-14 Autoloading Rifle (w/o folding stock)

`Ruger Mini Thirty Rifle

Browning Model 81 BLR Lever-Action Rifle

`Browning Model 81 Long Action BLR

`Browning Model 1886 Lever-Action Carbine

`Browning Model 1886 High Grade Carbine

`Cimarron 1860 Henry Replica

`Cimarron 1866 Winchester Replicas

`Cimarron 1873 Short Rifle

`Cimarron 1873 Sporting Rifle

`Cimarron 1873 30" Express Rifle

`Dixie Engraved 1873 Rifle

`E.M.F. 1866 Yellowboy Lever Actions

`E.M.F. 1860 Henry Rifle

`E.M.F. Model 73 Lever-Action Rifle

`Marlin Model 336CS Lever-Action Carbine

`Marlin Model 30AS Lever-Action Carbine

`Marlin Model 444SS Lever-Action Sporter

`Marlin Model 1894S Lever-Action Carbine

`Marlin Model 1894CS Carbine

`Marlin Model 1894CL Classic

`Marlin Model 1895SS Lever-Action Rifle

`Mitchell 1858 Henry Replica

`Mitchell 1866 Winchester Replica

`Mitchell 1873 Winchester Replica

`Navy Arms Military Henry Rifle

`Navy Arms Henry Trapper

`Navy Arms Iron Frame Henry

`Navy Arms Henry Carbine

`Navy Arms 1866 Yellowboy Rifle

`Navy Arms 1873 Winchester-Style Rifle

`Navy Arms 1873 Sporting Rifle

`Remington 7600 Slide Action

`Remington Model 7600 Special Purpose Slide Action

`Rossi M92 SRC Saddle-Ring Carbine

`Rossi M92 SRS Short Carbine

`Savage 99C Lever-Action Rifle

`Uberti Henry Rifle

`Uberti 1866 Sporting Rifle

`Uberti 1873 Sporting Rifle

`Winchester Model 94 Side Eject Lever-Action Rifle

`Winchester Model 94 Trapper Side Eject

`Winchester Model 94 Big Bore Side Eject

`Winchester Model 94 Ranger Side Eject Lever-Action Rifle

`Winchester Model 94 Wrangler Side Eject

Alpine Bolt-Action Rifle

`A-Square Caesar Bolt-Action Rifle

`A-Square Hannibal Bolt-Action Rifle

`Anschutz 1700D Classic Rifles

`Anschutz 1700D Custom Rifles

`Anschutz 1700D Bavarian Bolt-Action Rifle

`Anschutz 1733D Mannlicher Rifle

`Barret Model 90 Bolt-Action Rifle

`Beeman/HW 60J Bolt-Action Rifle

`Blaser R84 Bolt-Action Rifle

`BRNO 537 Sporter Bolt-Action Rifle

`BRNO ZKB 527 Fox Bolt-Action Rifle

`BRNO ZKK 600, 601, 602 Bolt-Action Rifles

`Browning A-Bolt Rifle

`Browning A-Bolt Stainless Stalker

`Browning A-Bolt Left Hand

`Browning A-Bolt Short Action

`Browning Euro-Bolt Rifle

`Browning A-Bolt Gold Medallion

`Browning A-Bolt Micro Medallion

`Century Centurion 14 Sporter

`Century Enfield Sporter #4

`Century Swedish Sporter #38

`Century Mauser 98 Sporter

`Cooper Model 38 Centerfire Sporter

`Dakota 22 Sporter Bolt-Action Rifle

`Dakota 76 Classic Bolt-Action Rifle

`Dakota 76 Short Action Rifles

`Dakota 76 Safari Bolt-Action Rifle

`Dakota 416 Rigby African

`E.A.A./Sabatti Rover 870 Bolt-Action Rifle

`Auguste Francotte Bolt-Action Rifles

`Carl Gustaf 2000 Bolt-Action Rifle

`Heym Magnum Express Series Rifle

`Howa Lightning Bolt-Action Rifle

`Howa Realtree Camo Rifle

`Interarms Mark X Viscount Bolt-Action Rifle

`Interarms Mini-Mark X Rifle

`Interarms Mark X Whitworth Bolt-Action Rifle

`Interarms Whitworth Express Rifle

`Iver Johnson Model 5100A1 Long-Range Rifle

`KDF K15 American Bolt-Action Rifle

`Krico Model 600 Bolt-Action Rifle

`Krico Model 700 Bolt-Action Rifles

`Mauser Model 66 Bolt-Action Rifle

`Mauser Model 99 Bolt-Action Rifle

`McMillan Signature Classic Sporter

`McMillan Signature Super Varminter

`McMillan Signature Alaskan

`McMillan Signature Titanium Mountain Rifle

`McMillan Classic Stainless Sporter

`McMillan Talon Safari Rifle

`McMillan Talon Sporter Rifle

`Midland 1500S Survivor Rifle

`Navy Arms TU-33/40 Carbine

`Parker-Hale Model 81 Classic Rifle

`Parker-Hale Model 81 Classic African Rifle

`Parker-Hale Model 1000 Rifle

`Parker-Hale Model 1100M African Magnum

`Parker-Hale Model 1100 Lightweight Rifle

`Parker-Hale Model 1200 Super Rifle

`Parker-Hale Model 1200 Super Clip Rifle

`Parker-Hale Model 1300C Scout Rifle

`Parker-Hale Model 2100 Midland Rifle

`Parker-Hale Model 2700 Lightweight Rifle

`Parker-Hale Model 2800 Midland Rifle

`Remington Model Seven Bolt-Action Rifle

`Remington Model Seven Youth Rifle

`Remington Model Seven Custom KS

`Remington Model Seven Custom MS Rifle

`Remington 700 ADL Bolt-Action Rifle

`Remington 700 BDL Bolt-Action Rifle

`Remington 700 BDL Varmint Special

`Remington 700 BDL European Bolt-Action Rifle

`Remington 700 Varmint Synthetic Rifle

`Remington 700 BDL SS Rifle

`Remington 700 Stainless Synthetic Rifle

`Remington 700 MTRSS Rifle

`Remington 700 BDL Left Hand

`Remington 700 Camo Synthetic Rifle

`Remington 700 Safari

`Remington 700 Mountain Rifle

`Remington 700 Custom KS Mountain Rifle

`Remington 700 Classic Rifle

`Ruger M77 Mark II Rifle

`Ruger M77 Mark II Magnum Rifle

`Ruger M77RL Ultra Light

`Ruger M77 Mark II All-Weather Stainless Rifle

`Ruger M77 RSI International Carbine

`Ruger M77 Mark II Express Rifle

`Ruger M77VT Target Rifle

`Sako Hunter Rifle

`Sako FiberClass Sporter

`Sako Safari Grade Bolt Action

`Sako Hunter Left-Hand Rifle

`Sako Classic Bolt Action

`Sako Hunter LS Rifle

`Sako Deluxe Lightweight

`Sako Super Deluxe Sporter

`Sako Mannlicher-Style Carbine

`Sako Varmint Heavy Barrel

`Sako TRG-S Bolt-Action Rifle

`Sauer 90 Bolt-Action Rifle

`Savage 110G Bolt-Action Rifle

`Savage 110CY Youth/Ladies Rifle

`Savage 110WLE One of One Thousand Limited Edition Rifle

`Savage 110GXP3 Bolt-Action Rifle

`Savage 110F Bolt-Action Rifle

`Savage 110FXP3 Bolt-Action Rifle

`Savage 110GV Varmint Rifle

`Savage 112FV Varmint Rifle

`Savage Model 112FVS Varmint Rifle

`Savage Model 112BV Heavy Barrel Varmint Rifle

`Savage 116FSS Bolt-Action Rifle

`Savage Model 116FSK Kodiak Rifle

`Savage 110FP Police Rifle

`Steyr-Mannlicher Sporter Models SL, L, M, S, S/T

`Steyr-Mannlicher Luxus Model L, M, S

`Steyr-Mannlicher Model M Professional Rifle

`Tikka Bolt-Action Rifle

`Tikka Premium Grade Rifles

`Tikka Varmint/Continental Rifle

`Tikka Whitetail/Battue Rifle

`Ultra Light Arms Model 20 Rifle

`Ultra Light Arms Model 28, Model 40 Rifles

`Voere VEC 91 Lightning Bolt-Action Rifle

`Voere Model 2165 Bolt-Action Rifle

`Voere Model 2155, 2150 Bolt-Action Rifles

`Weatherby Mark V Deluxe Bolt-Action Rifle

`Weatherby Lasermark V Rifle

`Weatherby Mark V Crown Custom Rifles

`Weatherby Mark V Sporter Rifle

`Weatherby Mark V Safari Grade Custom Rifles

`Weatherby Weathermark Rifle

`Weatherby Weathermark Alaskan Rifle

`Weatherby Classicmark No.

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I wonder how many crimes have been committed with a semi-auto Browning BAR hunting rifle? That is one ridiculous piece of legislation. I have already notified my elected officials.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[Esquilax 0]

Pointless, ineffective feel-good legislation directed towards limousine liberals.

Ostriches and rheas are the only birds that urinate and defecate separately. They read Parachutist while doing #2.

[akarunway 1]

They are SLOWLY trying to take away our ""right to bare arms" I wonder what DICK Cheneys' take on this one is?

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Stumpy 284]

Obviously you have focused on the gun thing - whats wrong with the rest of it?

Never try to eat more than you can lift

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our ""right to bare arms"

Otherwise known as the T-Shirt Amendment

Never try to eat more than you can lift

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There is no gun show loophole. I have bought pistols at gun shows and in retail stores and the paperwork and background check have been done the same way in both places. It is just an effort by the anti-gun crowd to shut down gun shows altogether.

Actually, there is, to some degree. Licensed firearms dealers must always do background checks, even at gun shows. But in many states, unlicensed private sellers are permitted by law to sell privately-owned guns at gun shows; and those sellers are not required to do background checks.

So if you got a background check at a gun show, chances are it was in a non-loophole state, or the seller was a licensed dealer, or the seller did so either voluntarily or under the mistaken belief that it was required of him.

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There is no gun show loophole...

Actually, there is, to some degree. Licensed firearms dealers must always do background checks, even at gun shows. But in many states, unlicensed private sellers are permitted by law to sell privately-owned guns at gun shows; and those sellers are not required to do background checks.

You are correct about private sales. However, that doesn't make it a "gun show loophole".

Private sales can occur elsewhere besides gun shows too, such as at flea markets, from home, between buddies, at gun clubs, whatever.

So the phrase "gun show loophole" is really just an anti-gun slogan to try and accomplish an underhanded ban on the private sales of firearms. That's what this is really all about. If you ban private sales at gun shows, then that is the foot-in-the-door to ban private sales everywhere else too.

It's the same tactic they used to ban many semi-auto firearms with a so-called "assault weapon" ban, by making the public believe it was about full-automatic machine guns.

They don't dare call it what it actually is, because then the public wouldn't fall for it. They have to lie to accomplish their objectives. This is what anti-gun people do.

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There is no gun show loophole...

Actually, there is, to some degree. Licensed firearms dealers must always do background checks, even at gun shows. But in many states, unlicensed private sellers are permitted by law to sell privately-owned guns at gun shows; and those sellers are not required to do background checks.

You are correct about private sales. However, that doesn't make it a "gun show loophole".

Private sales can occur elsewhere besides gun shows too, such as at flea markets, from home, between buddies, at gun clubs, whatever.

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They don't dare call it what it actually is, because then the public wouldn't fall for it. They have to lie to accomplish their objectives. This is what anti-gun people do.

So you're saying it's not a gun show loophole, it's an unqualified loophole.

So let's just call it a loophole.

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America does not want UK style gun laws.

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It is not a loophole. The same law that makes us get CCW permits also allows gun owners to sell their guns to other individuals. I have bought and sold many guns this way. I only sell guns to people that I trust.

The anti-gun lobby makes it sound like that anyone can buy guns at a gun show without paperwork.

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It is not a loophole. The same law that makes us get CCW permits also allows gun owners to sell their guns to other individuals. I have bought and sold many guns this way. I only sell guns to people that I trust.

Can you guarantee that all private sellers are as honest as you are?

Seems a great way to avoid background checks. Or, a loophole.

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It is not a loophole. The same law that makes us get CCW permits also allows gun owners to sell their guns to other individuals. I have bought and sold many guns this way. I only sell guns to people that I trust.

Can you guarantee that all private sellers are as honest as you are?

Seems a great way to avoid background checks. Or, a loophole.

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So the phrase "gun show loophole" is really just an anti-gun slogan to try and accomplish an underhanded ban on the private sales of firearms. That's what this is really all about. If you ban private sales at gun shows, then that is the foot-in-the-door to ban private sales everywhere else too.

I think it's considered a loophole by people who think that gun shows - probably in view of the quantity of guns available under a single roof - should be deemed to be in the same category as gun stores or other dealers' venues where background checks would be required. The idea being (obviously) that if a customer wants a large quantity of guns available for purchase under a single roof, he normally has to go to a licensed gun store, where he will be background-checked; but he can buy, or at least choose from, similar available bulk or variety at a gun show, where he might not be subject to a background check.

Now then: is a requirement that anyone making a private sale of a gun at a gun show must conduct a background check effectively the same thing as a "ban on private sales at gun shows"? I guess that would depend on how cumbersome or expensive it is to conduct the check. If it's fairly easy and cheap, then it's probably not a ban. But if it's so costly or cumbersome that most private sellers are likely to be deterred from selling at a gun show, then it might have the same practical effect as a ban.

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It's the same tactic they used to ban many semi-auto firearms with a so-called "assault weapon" ban, by making the public believe it was about full-automatic machine guns.

...Or, by giving the impression that the banned semi-auto rifles have greater lethality to multiple targets than un-banned semi-auto rifles do. Now, I'm no gun expert, but I do know how to read a statute. Basically, looking at what the statute says makes a semi-auto rifle an "assault weapon", when you set aside the stuff about folding stocks, bayonet mounts and flash suppressors, all that's really left is whether it has a pistol grip. And yet, the statute is silent - meaning it has no limit - to how many rounds a detachable clip may hold!

So, for example, that means a semi-auto knockoff of a powerful battle rifle like the M-14 firing .308 rounds from a high-capacity detachable clip is not an "assault weapon" solely because it doesn't have a pistol grip. Does the lack of a pistol grip really make it less potentially lethal to a group of people than a semi-auto AR-15 firing a .223? So what this tells me is that the focus is more on cosmetics and perception than on actual enhanced lethality.

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That was EXACTLY what the pro-2nd Amendment folks were up in arms about - the banning of an entire class of weapons SOLELY due to cosmetic features, and the fact of the bald lie about them being 'assault rifles'.

An "assault rifle" is a weapon firing a medium power round, having the capability to fire in bursts or fully automatic. A Bushmaster AR-15 is NOT an assault weapon regardless of the configuration of the stock, the muzzle brake or the inclusion of a bayonet lug.

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like the anti's care about that...

All they care about is banning any firearm they can, and if they start with what they consider scary looking, then they have achieved a partial goal.

They always try to say a weapon has no legitimate hunting purpose, but how do they arrive at that conclusion?

BTW there is not a Right to Hunt in the Constitution, only a right to keep and bear arms, and in that respect it would be arms of a military usage.

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Yup - Miller was all about 'arms in use by the military'.

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BTW there is not a Right to Hunt in the Constitution, only a right to keep and bear arms, and in that respect it would be arms of a military usage.

Nor is there a right to marry, have children, grow food, etc, but the Supreme Court considers these fundamental rights (and therefore any laws limiting them are subject to strict scrutiny) as they predate the Constitution.

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BTW there is not a Right to Hunt in the Constitution, only a right to keep and bear arms, and in that respect it would be arms of a military usage.

Nor is there a right to marry, have children, grow food, etc, but the Supreme Court considers these fundamental rights (and therefore any laws limiting them are subject to strict scrutiny) as they predate the Constitution.

Agreed - but those rights are ALSO not explicitly stated, the 2nd *is*.

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