RIP Paul Tibbetts

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Paul Tibbetts, pilot of the Enola Gay B-29, who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, has died at age 92. His health had been in a steady decline for the last two months. RIP Colonel, and thanks for shortening the War by several years.

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The vultures are already lining up to piss on his grave in the Bonfire. I expect they'll start circling here soon.

Edit: it would seem that the Bonfire thread has been deleted.

Thank you, Colonel, for eliminating the need for a land invasion of the Japanese home islands. You saved many of our ancestors.

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Paul Tibbetts, pilot of the Enola Gay B-29, who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, has died at age 92. His health had been in a steady decline for the last two months. RIP Colonel, and thanks for shortening the War by several years.

I second the motion.

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The vultures are already lining up to piss on his grave in the Bonfire. I expect they'll start circling here soon.

Edit: it would seem that the Bonfire thread has been deleted.

Thank you, Colonel, for eliminating the need for a land invasion of the Japanese home islands. You saved many of our ancestors.

Oh that's just great, delete the mans RIP thread, if it were not for hateful people like lisamariewillbe we may have all been able to pay our respects in a dignified adult manner.

But for some people that is an impossibilty.

I hope they expect the same treatment when their time comes to pass.

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RIP Colonel Tibbets, you changed our fate.

We all salute your service, and fortitude.

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if it were not for hateful people like lisamariewillbe

Good way to get more things deleted, nice PA, I dont hate the guy, Im not glad anyone is dead. Im just stating that to me a hero is not someone who kills thousands of people by order of the US govt. Yes many american lives were saved, but I wonder is Japan feels he is a hero? Like I said before I hope he found peace with his part in it. Lewis felt remorse for his actions and his part and in turn helped make relief and memorials, I hope Tibbetts did as well.

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Tibbets did his duty. He saved American lives.

Thank the man and then go about your business, civilian.

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I think even more Japanese would have died had the war continued to an invasion of mainland Japan.

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Tibbets did his duty.

Cooks at the mess hall do thier duty to, I dont thank them personally.

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He saved American lives.

He did not, he was ordered to fly the plane, whoever made the order technicually saved the lives of americans.

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Thank the man

Thanks Tibbetts

http://pegasus.phys.saga-u.ac.jp/peace1e.html

http://www.gensuikin.org/english/photo.html

http://fogonazos.blogspot.com/2007/02/hiroshima-pictures-they-didnt-want-us_05.html

May he rest in peace

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It has been reported that Col Tibbets request to be buried in an unmarked grave as to prevent protesters from using it as a location to gather. Col. Tibbets was an honorable man who by all accounts lead a good life. His grave site should be a place of reverence not something to be hid.

Shame on revisionist historians and uneducated people to slander a man who deserves much respect for not only his courage but his dignity during his later years of life listening to people second guess actions of 62 years ago.

This was a great American and he should be treated as such. If you’d like to reply do some research first, he didn’t just drop “the bomb”

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

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How ungrateful. If not for Tibbets' effective carrying out of his mission, many Americans would have died in a land invasion of Japan. If your ancestors were in the military, you might not have come into existence if not for Colonel Tibbets' actions.

It's not becoming to be an ingrate.

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Yes many american lives were saved, but I wonder is Japan feels he is a hero?

Wow. Talk about a stupid question. We were at war with Japan. A War that Japan started. Perhaps you're familiar with the events of December 7, 1941. Or the Bataan Death March.

Considering he participated in delivering the knock out blow to Japan, I doubt he's one of their favorites.

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If not for Tibbets' effective carrying out of his mission, many Americans would have died in a land invasion of Japan.

I do not condone nuclear war.

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It's not becoming to be an ingrate.

Where in the "Your an American if" book does it state I must appreciate and be grateful to the thousands of people HUMANS who died that day, then the thousands later who died as they watched thier skin drip from thier body? Not to mention the DNA issues, the global issues etc.

Why must I thank this man? Did you wait till he died to thank him? Being american means I can have my own opinion, Im not denying he is considered an american war hero. He just isnt my hero, nor are those who made the choice to bring nukes into the war.

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if it were not for hateful people like lisamariewillbe

Good way to get more things deleted, nice PA, I dont hate the guy, Im not glad anyone is dead. Im just stating that to me a hero is not someone who kills thousands of people by order of the US govt. Yes many american lives were saved, but I wonder is Japan feels he is a hero? Like I said before I hope he found peace with his part in it. Lewis felt remorse for his actions and his part and in turn helped make relief and memorials, I hope Tibbetts did as well.

but I wonder is Japan feels he is a hero?

Do you know anything about WWII? Remember Pearl Harbor, Bataan Death March, genocide of millions of Chinese for no reason, and I could go on and on. Japan was given a chance to surrender and they did not. Do not apply your "2007 love the world" emotionalism to a war that was fought many years ago.

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Thank you for the notice.
He served his country. He is recognized as a hero to many, many Americans.
For that he should be honored, and he will be long remembered in history.

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Goodness knows I love a good debate ... but respectfully hope that we might create another thread to continue a lively debate.

VR/Marg

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Tibetan Buddhist saying

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> RIP Colonel Tibbets

I second that. He was a good soldier and served his country well. He did not decide to drop nuclear weapons on civilians; any blame (or praise) for that action falls upon his superiors.

But in terms of who we owe a bigger debt of gratitude to, I think they are the 20 year old soldiers who have lost their lives in our military. They have given up far more than Tibbets did, who in the end lived to a ripe old age.

Two US soldiers died in Iraq yesterday. Their names have not yet been released, and even when they are, CNN will not cover them. There will be no primetime TV specials on them. No one will argue about them on an internet BBS somewhere. Indeed, outside their families and friends, they will be quickly forgotten as just another two anonymous dead out of thousands. IMO, their service and fortitude is far more impressive - and their reward far less - than Tibbets.

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Considering he participated in delivering the knock out blow to Japan, I doubt he's one of their favorites

That was kinda my point. I understand we were at war, I dont understand looking at this http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7114/258/1600/892042/foto1.jpg and then thanking the guy who was ordered to aid.

You all keep Tibbett as a hero, thats fine, but I reserve the right to consider him a solider, who obeyed the govt.

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That was kinda my point. I understand we were at war, I dont understand looking at this http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7114/258/1600/892042/foto1.jpg and then thanking the guy who was ordered to aid.

Given the choice between that and the same picture, but of Americans in the same situation, I have one thing to say: "Thank You, Colonel."

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Given the choice between that and the same picture, but of Americans in the same situation, I have one thing to say: "Thank You, Colonel."

And how many of you thought it was wrong that after 911 we saw reports or Iraqis dancing in the street?

BTW Skys bright blue today, texas in Fall is wonderful , thanks for asking.

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While it irritated me, I did not consider it wrong per se... They can have their opinions. When Americans root for the other side, it irks me a whole lot more, and makes me question their loyalty...

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Considering he participated in delivering the knock out blow to Japan, I doubt he's one of their favorites

That was kinda my point. I understand we were at war, I dont understand looking at this http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7114/258/1600/892042/foto1.jpg and then thanking the guy who was ordered to aid.

You all keep Tibbett as a hero, thats fine, but I reserve the right to consider him a solider, who obeyed the govt.

Why do you feel compelled to piss all over a thread where people are trying to pay tribute to the man? Is that necessary?

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I did, it pissed me off to watch videos of people jumping out of the tower then it spanning to people dancing in the streets. Death is a part of war but that does not mean I have to feel that everyones a hero who follows orders to carry those deaths out.

Ill end this here cause fighting on the internet isnt productive for my only day off this week but Ill state this, I am not hateful and Im not glad he is dead. I just dont consider him a hero.

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Why must I thank this man?

You certainly shouldn't have to. Col Tibbets commented that he understood that some people who were not around at the time would not agree with what he did.

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I can have my own opinion,

True and he supported that to.

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He just isnt my hero, nor are those who made the choice to bring nukes into the war.

I can understand that, he was one of my hero's....
As far as nukes being used in WWII you will never see my side of that and like wise I will never ever never see yours. But I find the fire bombings and other actions that never seem to be brought up to be much more upsetting. But thats just me and my read of history. Col. Tibbets supported your right to disagree as I do to.

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> RIP Colonel Tibbets

I second that. He was a good soldier and served his country well. He did not decide to drop nuclear weapons on civilians; any blame (or praise) for that action falls upon his superiors.

But in terms of who we owe a bigger debt of gratitude to, I think they are the 20 year old soldiers who have lost their lives in our military. They have given up far more than Tibbets did, who in the end lived to a ripe old age.

Two US soldiers died in Iraq yesterday. Their names have not yet been released, and even when they are, CNN will not cover them. There will be no primetime TV specials on them. No one will argue about them on an internet BBS somewhere. Indeed, outside their families and friends, they will be quickly forgotten as just another two anonymous dead out of thousands. IMO, their service and fortitude is far more impressive - and their reward far less - than Tibbets.

Too bad you couldn't just leave it at "I second that", instead discounting his contribution.