warpedskydiver 0 #1 November 1, 2007 Watch closely, someone decided to be disrespectful, and dismissve of the guards duty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-dBwdeJSGo&NR=1 Maybe someone can get the audio cleared up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 November 1, 2007 Quote Watch closely, someone decided to be disrespectful, and dismissve of the guards duty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-dBwdeJSGo&NR=1 Maybe someone can get the audio cleared up. Wrong tags... fixed it... Edited to add: I didn't see anything out of the ordinary... who got bayoneted?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 November 1, 2007 Nobody, but the next step was kind of obvious.The Guards at the Tomb of the Unknowns are some pretty serious soldiers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #4 November 1, 2007 Quote The Guards at the Tomb of the Unknowns are some pretty serious soldiers. True that... I've been there to watch them once."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #5 November 1, 2007 Some people are so sillyDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #6 November 1, 2007 QuoteSome people are so silly Great clip. I once was visiting the tomb of the unknown soldier and saw someone cross the line. The stiff rebuke by the soldier definitely got his, and all of our, attention. Poor guy in the video. Probably woulda gotten yelled at if his water bottle rolled in front of the guards too. Poor bastard.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #7 November 1, 2007 Oh so that's what that was about... I noticed someone stepped over the line then move back, but alas, no sound on my end..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquilax 0 #8 November 1, 2007 Bwahahaha!!! That was a very aggressive transition to Order Arms to Port Arms... I love it. Fucking Tourists.. ("Touri?")Ostriches and rheas are the only birds that urinate and defecate separately. They read Parachutist while doing #2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #9 November 1, 2007 QuoteQuoteSome people are so silly Great clip. I once was visiting the tomb of the unknown soldier and saw someone cross the line. The stiff rebuke by the soldier definitely got his, and all of our, attention. Poor guy in the video. Probably woulda gotten yelled at if his water bottle rolled in front of the guards too. Poor bastard. I don't have any sympathy at all. If you go to the Tomb of the Unknowns you should behave appropriately, IMO, just like you would at a family funeral.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #10 November 1, 2007 Quote Some people are so silly ROFL. Thanks. I needed thatI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #11 November 1, 2007 My point was that I think that it was unintentional.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquilax 0 #12 November 1, 2007 QuoteMy point was that I think that it was unintentional. But funny nonetheless.Ostriches and rheas are the only birds that urinate and defecate separately. They read Parachutist while doing #2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 November 2, 2007 I've now watched, and listened to, that film carefully several times. It seems clear that that civilian dropped his water bottle accidentally, and only took a brief instant to try to pull it back as unobtrusively as possible. There was absolutely no call to publicly abuse and humiliate him like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #14 November 2, 2007 There was all the reason in the world, to even move or speak during the ceremony shows a lack of respect for those brave men who are without a name after giving their last full measure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #15 November 2, 2007 Andy, please understand those guards are under orders and will not fail them. That guard did exactly as he was trained and instructed to do. I would not want to see what some pissy liberal protester would receive if he or she chose to take it upon themseleves to stage a protest on that post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #16 November 2, 2007 QuoteAndy, please understand those guards are under orders and will not fail them. That guard did exactly as he was trained and instructed to do. I would not want to see what some pissy liberal protester would receive if he or she chose to take it upon themseleves to stage a protest on that post. Events suggest it would more likely be a pissy anti-gay right wing Christian like Phelps and his followers.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #17 November 2, 2007 That could happen as well, with the same damned results Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #18 November 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteAndy, please understand those guards are under orders and will not fail them. That guard did exactly as he was trained and instructed to do. I would not want to see what some pissy liberal protester would receive if he or she chose to take it upon themseleves to stage a protest on that post. Events suggest it would more likely be a pissy anti-gay right wing Christian like Phelps and his followers. The difference being that if it happened to Phelps no one would be defending him, whereas if some lefties got smacked around, all the usual suspects would be whining about fascism, police states and having all our constitutional rights being stolen by the current administration. No doubt, the cost of the war in Iraq would get dragged into it... and probably some talk about Bush denying poor children the healthcare they so urgently need. And the federal debt. Don't forget about that. Oh, the humanity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #19 November 2, 2007 Quote Quote Andy, please understand those guards are under orders and will not fail them. That guard did exactly as he was trained and instructed to do. I would not want to see what some pissy liberal protester would receive if he or she chose to take it upon themseleves to stage a protest on that post. Events suggest it would more likely be a pissy anti-gay right wing Christian like Phelps and his followers. Anybody want to double-dog-dare that asshole Phelps and his gang to set up a protest there??? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #20 November 2, 2007 QuoteThe difference being that if it happened to Phelps no one would be defending him, If Phelps and his despicable gang actually got smacked around or bayonetted (or whatever it is Warped doesn't want to see) by the military I'm pretty sure some people would be 'whining' about those things. Remember, you don't have to defend someone in order to condemn what is done to them.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #21 November 2, 2007 QuoteThere was all the reason in the world, to even move or speak during the ceremony shows a lack of respect for those brave men who are without a name after giving their last full measure. I know the standard. I've been to the Tomb. They ask visitors to be respectful and quiet in a general fashion, and that's it. Even civilians quietly standing in respectful deference still don't comport themselves with rigid, parade-ground military-quality discipline without a twitch; they do the best they know how, and the best they can. QuoteAndy, please understand those guards are under orders and will not fail them. That guard did exactly as he was trained and instructed to do. Of course I realize that. My disappointment is with the people in charge, who implimented a protocol that fails to distinguish between someone truly behaving out of line and someone who is not. Publicly dressing-down that guy like that, indeed. No call for it at all. QuoteI would not want to see what some pissy liberal protester would receive if he or she chose to take it upon themseleves to stage a protest on that post. Why the gratuitous bash? There's no issue of ideology raised in this discussion. Please reconsider and retract that. The constant cheap shots several of you guys on here keep taking against "liberals", no matter what the context might be, is really getting old, and it's beneath the dignity of the dialogue you and I are having. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 November 2, 2007 QuoteRemember, you don't have to defend someone in order to condemn what is done to them. it's a tough concept - it takes more guts to defend a principle when the very visible immediate beneficiary is someone you despise ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #23 November 2, 2007 QuoteThe constant cheap shots several of you guys on here keep taking against "liberals", no matter what the context might be, is really getting old, and it's beneath the dignity of the dialogue you and I are having. I agree - but consider it stongly applies to both sides of the aisle. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #24 November 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteRemember, you don't have to defend someone in order to condemn what is done to them. it's a tough concept - it takes more guts to defend a principle when the very visible immediate beneficiary is someone you despise Agreed. It might be one definition of true guts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #25 November 3, 2007 For what it's worth, I agree with Andy's earlier post. I don't think there was any disrespect intended. We might criticise him for keeping better hold of his stuff, but it's a bit much to accuse him of dishonouring the ceremony. At the same time, I think the guard reacted correctly given the protocol of the occasion. All this has set me thinking of Britain's Unknown Warrior (a recipient of the Medal of Honor), and with 11th November fast approaching, I thought you folks might be interested to read the inscription on his Tomb at Westminster Abbey. -- BENEATH THIS STONE RESTS THE BODY OF A BRITISH WARRIOR UNKNOWN BY NAME OR RANK BROUGHT FROM FRANCE TO LIE AMONG THE MOST ILLUSTRIOUS OF THE LAND AND BURIED HERE ON ARMISTICE DAY 11 NOVEMBER 1920, IN THE PRESENCE OF HIS MAJESTY KING GEORGE V HIS MINISTERS OF STATE THE CHIEFS OF HIS FORCES AND A VAST CONCOURSE OF THE NATION THUS ARE COMMEMORATED THE MANY MULTITUDES WHO DURING THE GREAT WAR OF 1914 - 1918 GAVE THE MOST THAT MAN CAN GIVE LIFE ITSELF FOR GOD FOR KING AND COUNTRY FOR LOVED ONES HOME AND EMPIRE FOR THE SACRED CAUSE OF JUSTICE AND THE FREEDOM OF THE WORLD THEY BURIED HIM AMONG THE KINGS BECAUSE HE HAD DONE GOOD TOWARD GOD AND TOWARD HIS HOUSE -- Lest We Forget Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
