I really have absolutely no interest in a single candidate for President.
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Muenkel, in Speakers Corner
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Darius11 12
It is very difficult as most sound like puppets that read off what has been written for them.
There is two that stand out in my opinion so far,
Ron Paul
Fred Thompson
I like these guys because I feel they are genuine, I like Ron Paul because of his views and FT because he knows when to keep his religious opinions to him self. He also understands that his personal religious beliefs have no place in government and seems like a good man……………….but maybe these guys are just better at lying then the others and I am a fool.
i don;t know
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
Muenkel 0
I think I'd vote for you Terrance.
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Darius11 12
QuoteSo should I run for president, then?
A black guy be president yea that will happen.
Dude we need to buy you a new pic.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
I wonder how many skydivers could run for political office? Or would there be scandals due to certain events that happened after the beerlight came on?
it's all those damn video cameras!
it's all those damn video cameras!
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In the past it seems there have been more sitting or former governors in the race than this year. Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter and Nixon were in State house somewhere prior to the White house. I wonder why none this year.
Muenkel 0
I don't think scandals matter anymore. Seriously, when was the last time we had a great President?
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rushmc 23
QuoteI don't think scandals matter anymore. Seriously, when was the last time we had a great President?
Reagan
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
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Does anyone think it's due to the fact that all this campaigning started so early or no one of any substance will run for President anymore.
I think the compress primaries make this election worse than it already was, but we're definitely in a lull in terms of dynamic leadership for either party, as proven by the two Bushes and [potentially] two Clintons.
It wasn't really any better in 2000 or 2004.
Quotewhen was the last time we had a great President?
Eisenhower? maybe Kennedy (depending on if you're not partisan).
Try not to worry about the things you have no control over
QuoteIn the past it seems there have been more sitting or former governors in the race than this year.... I wonder why none this year.
Bill Richardson
Mike Huckabee
AWL71 0
I feel the same way. None of the candidates really excite me. No matter who gets elected it will be business as usual.
I know he had his detractors but I think Reagan was a great president.
I know he had his detractors but I think Reagan was a great president.
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
QuoteI wonder how many skydivers could run for political office? Or would there be scandals due to certain events that happened after the beerlight came on?
it's all those damn video cameras!
that's easy to get around, just write a tell-all book right now while you're still obscure and no one will care when you get famous. dirt is only good if it is uncovered.
"Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama
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Muenkel 0
Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis extremely well. Unfortunately, his time in the White House was short and we never really got to know if he would go down in history as a great president.
Reagan did well with the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Maybe FDR was our last truly great president.
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Reagan did well with the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Maybe FDR was our last truly great president.
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QuoteIt is very difficult as most sound like puppets that read off what has been written for them.
There is two that stand out in my opinion so far,
Ron Paul
Fred Thompson
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/11/01/MNQ0T43AG.DTL&hw=fred+thompson+civil+unions&sn=002&sc=963
Thompson noted the United States does not support torture and abides by international law, then indicated he would not be opposed to waterboarding if national security were at stake.
"As a general proposition, I've always thought that when you get right down to it, the measures have to meet the situation," he said. "If our country is faced with an imminent loss of lives of innocent Americans, and we have someone - and we're confident enough in our intelligence to be secure in the knowledge that this person has important information that could save the lives of innocent Americans - all I can say is that as president ... the measures will always meet the circumstances. And I will do what I think is in the best interest of my country. ''
yeah, there's taking a stand, not reading off the script. Funny enough, he goes on to criticize Clinton for dodging hard issues. I was most unimpressed by the statements he made this day.
ryoder 1,590
QuoteQuotewhen was the last time we had a great President?
Eisenhower? maybe Kennedy (depending on if you're not partisan).
I used to think Eisenhower was good until I read about how the whole concept of POTUS secretly authorizing covert military ops started under him, then I was a lot less impressed.
The more I learn about JFK, the more it seems that he was going to Robert Kennedy for all the big decisions. It's a shame Robert died, because I think he might have been a great president.
"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.
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Does anyone think it's due to the fact that all this campaigning started so early or no one of any substance will run for President anymore.
I think the compress primaries make this election worse than it already was, but we're definitely in a lull in terms of dynamic leadership for either party, as proven by the two Bushes and [potentially] two Clintons.
It wasn't really any better in 2000 or 2004.
How about election reform?
Wouldn't it would be great if no one could register or campaign before March or April of the election year? A few months for primaries, have the conventions and 3-4 months for the parties' candidates to campaign, and then we're done for three and a half years.
Yeah... I know... a pipe dream.
This crap of starting your run almost 2 years before the election is obscene. It's not candidacy. It's a fucking war of attrition.
AWL71 0
That is a pipe dream. I wish that would happen but it won't. It is also a shame that you have to have a huge net worth or friends that have a huge net worth in order to pay for an effective campaign.
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
I think we tend to put Presidents from other generations up on pedestals(sp?). With the scrutiny modern presidents are put under, it's hard to compare.
LBJ, Nixon, Reagan and Clinton all have some great aspects to their legacies.
LBJ, Nixon, Reagan and Clinton all have some great aspects to their legacies.
quade 4
QuoteI honestly don't have a pick.
Yeah, I'm pretty much with you on this one. I'm not exactly excited about any of them.
Out of the entire field, I do have a lesser of all evils pick and it's going to come as a surprise to some that he's a Republican, but like I said, he's my lesser of all evils pick and even then it's only because of his vast experience level; not anything he's said or done recently.
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Ron Paul's been a Congressman in Texas for a long time. His voting record shows that he does practice what he preaches.QuoteI like Ron Paul because of his views and FT because he knows when to keep his religious opinions to him self. He also understands that his personal religious beliefs have no place in government and seems like a good man……………….but maybe these guys are just better at lying then the others and I am a fool.
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quade 4
QuoteRon Paul's been a Congressman in Texas for a long time. His voting record shows that he does practice what he preaches.
While I'm all for the idea of reforming the system, his viewpoint is far too extreme to actually work. While they may sound good in sound bites and placate the masses, the numbers don't meet any test of reasonableness.
Some people are of the opinion that if a candidate makes lies as campaign promises it's "ok" because at least that way they can get into the system and do "something". I, on the other hand, would love to hear somebody just campaign on the realities of the situation. I'd like to think I and the rest of the population is intelligent enough to not have to be lied to.
Trust me, if Ron Paul were to ever be elected, nothing approaching the changes he's talking about would ever actually take place. The President simply doesn't have that sort of authority or power.
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ryoder 1,590
QuoteI think we tend to put Presidents from other generations up on pedestals(sp?). With the scrutiny modern presidents are put under, it's hard to compare.
LBJ, Nixon, Reagan and Clinton all have some great aspects to their legacies.
NOT LBJ! That asshole dug us into Viet Nam, then when he realized there was no way to win, the SOB refused to accept reality and pull out. I've heard the audio tapes of him responding to McNamara, after the latter flatly told him there was no way to win:
"I will NOT go down in history as the first president to lose a war."
In other words, his personal pride was more important than the lives of American soldiers. I'd like to shit on his grave. I had always considered him the worst president in my lifetime, but over the last six years I've been reconsidering.
On Nixon, we agree. He had the guts to face reality and clean up the mess created by LBJ, and he also normalized relations with China, after decades of the US pretending Taiwan was China. He also had the last truly balanced budget, although in fairness it was a side-effect of the Viet Nam war ending while the tax increases that paid for it were still in effect.
"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.
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