algboy 0 #26 November 6, 2007 Quote Quote Party affiliation change deadlines for voters: Connecticut Nov. 6 Maryland Nov. 19 West virginia Nov. 30. you need to be registered as a republican in order to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries. Unless you live in an enlightened state that has open primaries. Those are: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin Thanks for the FYI, This AZ voter is now . . . Republican! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,501 #27 November 7, 2007 QuoteWhy should party membership be a requirement for voting in ANY election??? Because it's not an election for political office, it is only an election for the endorsement of a political party. The members of a political party make that party what it is, shouldn't they be the ones to choose who they officially endorse? QuoteWhy are these two parties allowed to restrict my choices in the final down to just two? They don't and they can't. The parties simply give their endorsement to only one candidate each. Likewise, each primary candidate chooses to risk his political capital by attempting to gain the endorsement of one of the two major parties. Don't like the major two? Vote for another party's candidate!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #28 November 7, 2007 Quote The winner is the one who has made the most ambiguous speeches, giving the fewest clues on where he/she really stands" I LOVE this statement!Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #29 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are. Kind of like a poll tax. Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election? Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot? What does this have to do with requiring money to be paid in order to vote in a primary? QuoteExplain why non-party-members should vote in a party election. I have no idea why some States don't require party affiliation to vote in that party's primary. What does that have to do with you wanting a "pay to vote" set up, in order to vote in a primary? Are you familiar with the 24th Amendment? Do you know what it was about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #30 November 7, 2007 Quote In one of those states the dead are allowed to vote in the Democratic Primaries... hmmmm I wonder which one that is? In Illinois primaries the motto is Vote Early ~ Vote Often! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #31 November 7, 2007 Hey maybe he thinks it is a great idea to vote for a republican he knows will not win so that a dem gets to win the election. I mean geez are you insisting that there be fair, honest elections? This is illinoistan and don't you forget it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #32 November 7, 2007 QuoteI think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are. Which is exactly how it is done in many other countries including Canada. In order to vote for the leader of a party, you have to be a paying member of the political party. This goes for both the provincial and the federal parties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #33 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are. Kind of like a poll tax. Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election? Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot? What does this have to do with requiring money to be paid in order to vote in a primary? QuoteExplain why non-party-members should vote in a party election. I have no idea why some States don't require party affiliation to vote in that party's primary. What does that have to do with you wanting a "pay to vote" set up, in order to vote in a primary? Are you familiar with the 24th Amendment? Do you know what it was about? Kindly explain the logic of why NON MEMBERS should be allowed to vote in a PARTY'S private election of its candidates.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #34 November 7, 2007 QuoteHey maybe he thinks it is a great idea to vote for a republican he knows will not win so that a dem gets to win the election. Have you joined Marc Rush in Looking Glass Land?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #35 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are. Kind of like a poll tax. Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election? Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot? What does this have to do with requiring money to be paid in order to vote in a primary? QuoteExplain why non-party-members should vote in a party election. I have no idea why some States don't require party affiliation to vote in that party's primary. What does that have to do with you wanting a "pay to vote" set up, in order to vote in a primary? Are you familiar with the 24th Amendment? Do you know what it was about? Kindly explain the logic of why NON MEMBERS should be allowed to vote in a PARTY'S private election of its candidates. I'll tell you why. In Georgia's gerrymandered 4th Congressional district, the Republican crossover in the 2002 primary was the only thing that kept Cynthia McKinney off the democratic ballot and then winning the seat. Logic: It's a defense mechanism for voters who are marginalized through gerrymandering.Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #36 November 7, 2007 Quote Quote The winner is the one who has made the most ambiguous speeches, giving the fewest clues on where he/she really stands" I LOVE this statement! Damn - I'd like to flirt with you on this one, but it's not my statement - credit Ryoder - I was just reponding to him http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3005232#3005232 ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #37 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are. Kind of like a poll tax. Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election? Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot? What does this have to do with requiring money to be paid in order to vote in a primary? QuoteExplain why non-party-members should vote in a party election. I have no idea why some States don't require party affiliation to vote in that party's primary. What does that have to do with you wanting a "pay to vote" set up, in order to vote in a primary? Are you familiar with the 24th Amendment? Do you know what it was about? Kindly explain the logic of why NON MEMBERS should be allowed to vote in a PARTY'S private election of its candidates. I'll tell you why. In Georgia's gerrymandered 4th Congressional district, the Republican crossover in the 2002 primary was the only thing that kept Cynthia McKinney off the democratic ballot and then winning the seat. Logic: It's a defense mechanism for voters who are marginalized through gerrymandering. Great point. I am not in the 4th district but close by. Her getting beat in that election was priceless. It is a crying shame a moron like McKinney ever got elected. My pet rock would have done a better job than her.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #38 November 7, 2007 QuoteKindly explain the logic of why NON MEMBERS should be allowed to vote in a PARTY'S private election of its candidates. As I've already said, I don't know the rationale behind each states' election laws. Perhaps you, the learned Dr. PhD, could explain it to me. But before you do that, how about answering the four questions in my previous post??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #39 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteKindly explain the logic of why NON MEMBERS should be allowed to vote in a PARTY'S private election of its candidates. As I've already said, I don't know the rationale behind each states' election laws. Perhaps you, the learned Dr. PhD, could explain it to me. But before you do that, how about answering the four questions in my previous post??? I asked first: Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election? Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot? How is this different from non-members voting in a party's primary??????? ?????? ?????? (See, I can type lots of "?"s too)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #40 November 7, 2007 QuoteI asked first: Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election? Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot? Well, if you're going to make a stink about who asked first, my answers are no and no. Your turn. I'm really interested in hearing how you think requiring people to pay money to vote in primaries is a good thing, especially considering the 24th Amendment was passed to prevent that very thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #41 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteI asked first: Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election? Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot? Well, if you're going to make a stink about who asked first, my answers are no and no. Your turn. I'm really interested in hearing how you think requiring people to pay money to vote in primaries is a good thing, especially considering the 24th Amendment was passed to prevent that very thing. I don't require them to pay, I would require them to belong to the party before they voted for its candidate. The party is a private organization and can have whatever rules it likes for membership (including paying dues).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #42 November 7, 2007 Quote I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are. Quote I don't require them to pay, I would require them to belong to the party before they voted for its candidate. Nice retreat. Simply put, party membership in the US isn't a big deal. All you have to do fill out a form and you're in. Quit trying to make such a big hubbub about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #43 November 7, 2007 Quote Quote I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are. Quote I don't require them to pay, I would require them to belong to the party before they voted for its candidate. Nice retreat. Simply put, party membership in the US isn't a big deal. All you have to do fill out a form and you're in. Quit trying to make such a big hubbub about it. Only party I ever joined had dues payable.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #44 November 7, 2007 Quote Quote Quote I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are. Quote I don't require them to pay, I would require them to belong to the party before they voted for its candidate. Nice retreat. Simply put, party membership in the US isn't a big deal. All you have to do fill out a form and you're in. Quit trying to make such a big hubbub about it. Only party I ever joined had dues payable. How irrelevant. Now, how about answering my previous questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #45 November 7, 2007 QuoteI don't require them to pay, I would require them to belong to the party before they voted for its candidate. The party is a private organization and can have whatever rules it likes for membership (including paying dues). "I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are." ----- kallendProvoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #46 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteI don't require them to pay, I would require them to belong to the party before they voted for its candidate. The party is a private organization and can have whatever rules it likes for membership (including paying dues). "I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are." ----- kallend Whatever it takes to join. If dues are payable, then so be it. If not, so be it. Either way I think actual party membership should be a prerequisite to voting in that party's primary. Is that clear enough for you?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #47 November 7, 2007 QuoteGiggedy giggedy gig-a-dy didnt se your post there at first. Ron Paul has been getting plenty of TV time too, without having to purchase much advertising. He is really starting to gain serious traction.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #48 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't require them to pay, I would require them to belong to the party before they voted for its candidate. The party is a private organization and can have whatever rules it likes for membership (including paying dues). "I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are." ----- kallend Whatever it takes to join. If dues are payable, then so be it. If not, so be it. Either way I think actual party membership should be a prerequisite to voting in that party's primary. Is that clear enough for you? So, you were just blowing smoke about that "dues paying paid up" nonsense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #49 November 7, 2007 How many US primaries have you voted in? Have you ever been a registered member either major party, in the US? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #50 November 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don't require them to pay, I would require them to belong to the party before they voted for its candidate. The party is a private organization and can have whatever rules it likes for membership (including paying dues). "I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are." ----- kallend Whatever it takes to join. If dues are payable, then so be it. If not, so be it. Either way I think actual party membership should be a prerequisite to voting in that party's primary. Is that clear enough for you? So, you were just blowing smoke about that "dues paying paid up" nonsense? I have not investigated every political party (including the fringe ones) in the USA to see whether or not they charge dues. Is that OK with you?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
