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Party affiliation change deadlines for voters:

Connecticut Nov. 6

Maryland Nov. 19


West virginia Nov. 30.


you need to be registered as a republican in order to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.



Unless you live in an enlightened state that has open primaries. Those are: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin
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Unless you live in an enlightened state that has open primaries. Those are: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin



Two thirds of which are Red states. Who'd a thunk?

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Unless you live in an enlightened state that has open primaries. Those are: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin



Two thirds of which are Red states. Who'd a thunk?




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Party affiliation change deadlines for voters:

Connecticut Nov. 6

Maryland Nov. 19


West virginia Nov. 30.


you need to be registered as a republican in order to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.





Wait so you mean if you are registered as an independent you can’t vote for a republican?
I did not know that. I always thought you show up with your card and you vote for whom you want to in an anonymous manner.
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Key word there is "Primaries", not 'Election'

The primaries are where each party picks their extreme nutjob candidate resulting in the election having two horrible candidates to pick from.

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Key word there is "Primaries", not 'Election'

The primaries are where each party picks their extreme nutjob candidate resulting in the election having two horrible candidates to pick from.



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Key word there is "Primaries", not 'Election'

The primaries are where each party picks their extreme nutjob candidate resulting in the election having two horrible candidates to pick from.




Hey can a whole bunch of democrats or vise versa change their party just to vote for the weakest candidate of their competitor in the Primaries?
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Key word there is "Primaries", not 'Election'

The primaries are where each party picks their extreme nutjob candidate resulting in the election having two horrible candidates to pick from.



No, no! Each party nominates their most bland candidate who has offended the fewest special-interest groups. The winner is the one who has made the most ambiguous speeches, giving the fewest clues on where he/she really stands. Those who actually take stands and make speeches on relevant issues are weeded out here.
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Key word there is "Primaries", not 'Election'

The primaries are where each party picks their extreme nutjob candidate resulting in the election having two horrible candidates to pick from.



No, no! Each party nominates their most bland candidate who has offended the fewest special-interest groups. The winner is the one who has made the most ambiguous speeches, giving the fewest clues on where he/she really stands. Those who actually take stands and make speeches on relevant issues are weeded out here.



No no no NO - in the primaries, the party nominates the MOST extreme wacko that kisses up the fringe groups.

Then after the primaries and BEFORE the election, they completely hide those views and present as a "bland candidate who has offended the fewest special-interest groups. The winner is the one who has made the most ambiguous speeches, giving the fewest clues on where he/she really stands"

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Hey can a whole bunch of democrats or vise versa change their party just to vote for the weakest candidate of their competitor in the Primaries?



They could, if they meet the deadline for changing it, but then they wouldn't be able to vote for a candidate in their own party.

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Hey can a whole bunch of democrats or vise versa change their party just to vote for the weakest candidate of their competitor in the Primaries?



They could, if they meet the deadline for changing it, but then they wouldn't be able to vote for a candidate in their own party.




Wow really. That’s insane and I am surprised this has not been exploited in the past.

You get 50% of the dems. To vote for the weakest rep. Then you still have 50% left to vote your guy in the primaries. And the general election you can vote for whom you want.


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You get 50% of the dems. To vote for the weakest rep. Then you still have 50% left to vote your guy in the primaries. And the general election you can vote for whom you want.



Hmm, I'm not sure how that would get organized. And if it could be organized, then the other parties could do the same, and everything would even out.

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You get 50% of the dems. To vote for the weakest rep. Then you still have 50% left to vote your guy in the primaries. And the general election you can vote for whom you want.



Hmm, I'm not sure how that would get organized. And if it could be organized, then the other parties could do the same, and everything would even out.


Or both parties would end put up annoying and very weak candidates...

good thing that isn't happening in real life :S

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Unless you live in an enlightened state that has open primaries. Those are: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin



Washington is no longer quite so enlightened. While you are free to pick a primary to vote in, you can only pick one. So if you vote for a Republican presidential candidate, you have to vote for a Republican in each other race as well. Having primary votes for more than one party will disqualify a ballot.

Personally, I liked it more when I could select my favorite person in each race, regardless of which party they were affiliated with. I think the touted prospect of an organized effort to nominate a weak member of the opposing party smack of paranoia. And while a party should be free to select their nominee without outside interference, to me at least, the freedom of the people to vote their conscience outweighs it.

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Key word there is "Primaries", not 'Election'

The primaries are where each party picks their extreme nutjob candidate resulting in the election having two horrible candidates to pick from.



No, no! Each party nominates their most bland candidate who has offended the fewest special-interest groups. The winner is the one who has made the most ambiguous speeches, giving the fewest clues on where he/she really stands. Those who actually take stands and make speeches on relevant issues are weeded out here.



No no no NO - in the primaries, the party nominates the MOST extreme wacko that kisses up the fringe groups.

Then after the primaries and BEFORE the election, they completely hide those views and present as a "bland candidate who has offended the fewest special-interest groups. The winner is the one who has made the most ambiguous speeches, giving the fewest clues on where he/she really stands"



Right. The candidates were better when they emerged from the proverbial "smoke filled rooms".

Open primaries are the most absurd of all. They let supporters of the other party act as spoilers.

I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are.
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Right. The candidates were better when they emerged from the proverbial "smoke filled rooms".



I disagree. That's even worse, in that scenario they are kissing up to only a single fringe nutjob group instead of at least a handful of fringe nutjob groups.

I like the concept of the primary process. But in today's practice, it doesn't offer candidates that relate to the people of that party - just the nuts of the party.

But the only way to level that out is for the average guy to get involved in the primary process, but, he's got to work and care for his family. He's not obsessive enough to spend time in the primary process.

Get it on-line.

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I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are.



Kind of like a poll tax.



Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election?

Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot?

Explain why non-party-members should vote in a party election. IMO, if you want to vote in any organization, you should first join it.
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I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are.



Kind of like a poll tax.



Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election?

Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot?

Explain why non-party-members should vote in a party election. IMO, if you want to vote in any organization, you should first join it.



How about the idea of a person having their votes weighted proportionally to how much they pay in taxes? Your stockholder example would certainly support that.
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I think primaries should be restricted to dues paying paid up actual members of the party - those who put their money where their votes are.



Kind of like a poll tax.



Do you approve of non-citizens voting in the general election?

Do you approve of non-stockholders voting in a corporation ballot?

Explain why non-party-members should vote in a party election. IMO, if you want to vote in any organization, you should first join it.



Why should party membership be a requirement for voting in ANY election??? Where in the Constitution does it state that all political power should be in the hands of two indistinguishable parties who only concern is getting their own incumbents re-elected, and keeping anyone else out? Why are these two parties allowed to restrict my choices in the final down to just two? I like both Paul and Kucinich, so why am I not allowed to vote for both in the primaries?
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