Strikes in France

[akarunway 1]

So these people worked (some all their lives) w/ a promise. And they ( The new French pres. and Big Corps. I imagine) are trying to fuck em. I'll bet Bush and Co. love this guy. Reagan would too if the bastard was still alive. I do feel sorry for the little guys that are affected tho. Thoughts?>http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8STHIJ01&show_article=1

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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
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Than never to have loved at all.

[Lefty 0]

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So these people worked (some all their lives) w/ a promise. And they ( The new French pres. and Big Corps. I imagine) are trying to fuck em. I do feel sorry for the little guys that are affected tho. Thoughts?

If your post had been just the text above, you could be taken more seriously. Dragging Bush and Reagan into an French news story that has nothing to do with them is just...sad.

Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful.
-Calvin

[lawrocket 3]

Some people have been unable to work all their lives. Sarkozy was elected by the French people BECAUSE of the problems caused by the system in France.

So you've got unions threatening to cut power and heat to places? Hmmm. That's nice of them.

And by whom do you mean "the little guy?"

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[akarunway 1]

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Some people have been unable to work all their lives. Sarkozy was elected by the French people BECAUSE of the problems caused by the system in France.

So you've got unions threatening to cut power and heat to places? Hmmm. That's nice of them.

And by whom do you mean "the little guy?"

The little guy that needs to get to work amongst others.(collateral damagage I guess) And the Bush comment was because that little weasal bastard would love to bust every union in the US if he could. Remember Reagan and the Pilots/ATC union. Fuck them assholes. They'd take my pension if they could.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[lawrocket 3]

It wasn't piltos, it was PATCO. A law passed in 1956 prohibited government employees from striking. PATCO thought they could grind the air traffic to a halt until their demands for a pay raise and a 32 hour work week were met.

Reagan, being chief executive, did his job under the law. PATCO (founded by F. Lee Bailey) was decertified as a union. Of course, it turned out that there were plenty of people who could do the job - the air traffic controllers were not as important as they thought.

So, perhaps had the union decided to do things a little differently instead of a shock and awe illegal strike, then things would have turned out differently. But since they decided on an all-out assault - an illegal strike - they pushed Reagan's hand.

What could reagan have done differently? What would PATCO have done differently? The union gambled all in.

What could the union have done differently?

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[AWL71 0]

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Some people have been unable to work all their lives. Sarkozy was elected by the French people BECAUSE of the problems caused by the system in France.

So you've got unions threatening to cut power and heat to places? Hmmm. That's nice of them.

And by whom do you mean "the little guy?"

The little guy that needs to get to work amongst others.(collateral damagage I guess) And the Bush comment was because that little weasal bastard would love to bust every union in the US if he could. Remember Reagan and the Pilots/ATC union. Fuck them assholes. They'd take my pension if they could.

I would love to see every union busted. The unions are making the US Automotive industry non-competitive. They promote waste and reward idleness. Unions may have served a purpose in the past but now all they serve is themselves and their own agenda.

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[lawrocket 3]

Actually, here's another thought. What will the government do when socialized industries object to the treatment? Let's say the nurses go on strike.

The government doesn't screw around with anyone.

Nobody better object to the working conditions the government imposes and creates.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[rehmwa 2]

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The little guy that needs to get to work amongst others.(collateral damagage I guess)

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[marks2065 0]

the unions have given and taken at the same time. i have seen lazy people stay employed, hard working friends loose their homes during strikes, and buisinesses go bankrupt all because of unions. i for one would not welcome nor accept a union at my shop. unions have lived past their usefullnes at this point and time. imho

[lawrocket 3]

I would have less of a problem with unions if they were NOT afforded protection from antitrust laws. I'd like to see the exemption for unions under the Clayton Act repealed, and then the Taft-Hartley Act, which imposes limits on what a union can do.

Simply put, it means that unions are treated the same as every other business (except the gubment).

If unions were treated the same, I would have no problems with them. Let them get sued for antitrust, too.

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[marks2065 0]

unions would also be better if they were controlled by people less afiliated with the mob types and more on what's better for everything not just a couple employees. the US is trying to compete in a world market and the union is helping to keep us out of that market by making the product to expensive/

[Guest]

Just heard there are going to be transportation strikes in Germany this week.

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[Andrewwhyte 1]

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Actually, here's another thought. What will the government do when socialized industries object to the treatment? Let's say the nurses go on strike.

The government doesn't screw around with anyone.

Nobody better object to the working conditions the government imposes and creates.

Poor example. In fact there aren't a lot of people who can do what the nurses do. In Canada the various provincial nurses unions are among the most militant in the country, because they can be. Every province in Canada and most states in the US are chronically short of nurses.

[Frenchy68 0]

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So these people worked (some all their lives) w/ a promise. And they ( The new French pres. and Big Corps. I imagine) are trying to fuck em. I'll bet Bush and Co. love this guy. Reagan would too if the bastard was still alive. I do feel sorry for the little guys that are affected tho. Thoughts?>http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8STHIJ01&show_article=1

In this particular case, the issue is a law which dates back to the 19th century and the industrial revolution. At the time, it was decided that a train conductor was entitled to retire at the age of 50. The thinking behind it was that the poor bloke was breathing coal all day, and his chance of making it to 60 years of age was minimal at best. Fast forward to 2007 and the TGV. One works for 25 years, and is then retired for 25 to 30 years. Economically, the country can NOT sustain it. The issue is NOT to take away any kind of benefits or pension one is entitled to, but to find a way that is financially sustainable in the long term. It is not about "big corporation", as the train system in France is fully public, paid for by tax payers.
The French left, which can pride itself in having a very socially progressive past, has now become one of the biggest reactionary force in modern politics.

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[shropshire 0]

Withholding your labour is everyones right... just dont 'expect' there to be a job waiting for you when you get back.
But on the other hand forcing people to go to work is also wrong.

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[ryoder 1,590]

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I would have less of a problem with unions if they were NOT afforded protection from antitrust laws. I'd like to see the exemption for unions under the Clayton Act repealed, and then the Taft-Hartley Act, which imposes limits on what a union can do.

Simply put, it means that unions are treated the same as every other business (except the gubment).

If unions were treated the same, I would have no problems with them. Let them get sued for antitrust, too.

That does it LR! I'm going to write your name in on the next election. (Are you 35 yet?).

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[chris74 0]

Yo Bros,
Bollocks my friends , Fren ch in the house ! It is not THE real problem ! Here now , some just want to play with the money of others and don't want to work a little bit harder and longer . It is just a social war between private and state employes ! Leitmotiv : Work hard , Play hard , ( and for me Skydive hard ! )
Blue skies
Chris

[DZJ 0]

Strikes in France! Water found in ocean! Snow discovered in Antarctica!

[Zep 0]

I've said it once an I'll say it again, "Europe needs a giant dose of Thatcherism"

Altogether now, Were out of work an on the dole, so stick the red flag up yer ole.

Gone fishing