Nightingale 0 #26 November 18, 2007 I'm glad you're safe. Do you have a plan if someone is not deterred by your alarm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aprilcat 0 #27 November 18, 2007 I'm thinking DOG too. My dog Niles isn't big..but he's not letting anyone get in here without a fight. If you don't live here, heaven forbid you're sneaking around outside the door. He's on the job. You can get a cute little dog with sharp little cute teeth that loves you and will protect you! Not saying your dog has to lay his life down, he may never have to, dogs are a hinderence to creeps! Be safe!!!~~April Camelot II, the Electric Boogaloo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #28 November 18, 2007 Wow - Glad you are ok.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #29 November 18, 2007 Quote Quote I'm just looking for a little support from my friends in Bonfire. Ok, if the burglar returns later tonight post a new thread in bonfire, we will be here for you. More than likely that crack addict is breaking into another home right now so I'm confident you'll be ok. I made it clear in the first post what options I'm not going to discuss. Gun ownership is one of them. I had hoped that people could respect that but obviously, not the case."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #30 November 18, 2007 Quote Quote Quote I'm just looking for a little support from my friends in Bonfire. Ok, if the burglar returns later tonight post a new thread in bonfire, we will be here for you. More than likely that crack addict is breaking into another home right now so I'm confident you'll be ok. I made it clear in the first post what options I'm not going to discuss. Gun ownership is one of them. I had hoped that people could respect that but obviously, not the case. We respect your decisions. Well, at least I do .... 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #31 November 18, 2007 QuoteWhy did you go out to your neighbors after that? What if the person was still around? Couldn't you have just called them? That's definitely a good point and staying put was probably the smarter option. However, I could see my neighbor so I did figure that I could alert him if something did happen. It's also probably ten paces from my door to theirs. Also, to be honest, I was looking at that point for *any* other possible explanation. Not exactly rational, but that's where I was. As Kris noted, it's making it quite obvious that I do need to have a plan if the deterrents don't work next time. QuoteAlso, didn't the security company phone you? My alarms are not that type... yet. That will change this week."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #32 November 18, 2007 Quote We respect your decisions. Well, at least I do .... Thanks, 'Shell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #33 November 18, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote I'm just looking for a little support from my friends in Bonfire. Ok, if the burglar returns later tonight post a new thread in bonfire, we will be here for you. More than likely that crack addict is breaking into another home right now so I'm confident you'll be ok. I made it clear in the first post what options I'm not going to discuss. Gun ownership is one of them. I had hoped that people could respect that but obviously, not the case. We respect your decisions. Well, at least I do .... I second that. If it was me, I'd get the gun and a dog......but totally respect people who choose not to. To each his own..and there's nothing wrong with that.Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #34 November 18, 2007 Quote Quote We respect your decisions. Well, at least I do .... Thanks, 'Shell. I love you, girl. And I hope you keep yourself safe. You're what matters right now. Do whatever you have to. And know that I love you. And care about you. Pay it forward still means a lot to me. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #35 November 18, 2007 QuoteI'm glad you're safe. Do you have a plan if someone is not deterred by your alarm? I just sent in a registration request for a self-defense class in early December."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #36 November 18, 2007 Is your bedroom on the first or second floor? If I was in your shoes (no dog or weapon), if my room was on the second floor, I'd replace the bedroom door with a good, sturdy security door, with a really solid lock. I'd make sure there was a phone in that room that couldn't be disabled by taking another phone off the hook (an old cell phone with no service plan works fine here... just attach it to the charger and leave it in your room. You can still dial 911 with no other phone service). Last, I'd add a fire ladder to enable an escape out the window, and a second set of car keys. If your room is on the first floor, the bedroom window is pretty much going to be a security hole... You can alarm it, but you don't want to put bars or something like that, because you would lose your escape route in case of a fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #37 November 18, 2007 Third floor. My cell phone is the only phone in the house and it's always with me (it acts as my backup alarm so I don't go to sleep without checking to make sure it's in the room). The fire ladder's a great idea for many reasons - the bedroom has a balcony but I'd still be three stories up in the event of an emergency. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryskydives 0 #38 November 18, 2007 lived in an apartment with 3 other girls . Oh Skymamma: this made me forget all about the original post.. Any way a big dog, black if possible. Not only will a theif rethink your place, but you will get a early alarm with a dog. Don't run out of altitude and experience at the same time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #39 November 18, 2007 Fortunately, my actual alarm also made the potential thief rethink my place. I realized as well that I hadn't done a good job of making it obvious I was home. I had one light on and the TV on, on the opposite side of the house from where the entry door is. To a less-than-bright criminal, it would look like I wasn't home. More bright lights on ground level in the future for me. However this is also the guy who didn't bother to turn around and notice the man standing in the kitchen window that overlooked the very door he was trying to break into... so I'm not all that sure how observant he was. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #40 November 18, 2007 glad you are OK get yourself a BFD, or even a medium one, they act as good deterents too.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepDiver 0 #41 November 18, 2007 Quote I had hoped that people could respect that but obviously, not the case. Frankly seeking solace & comfort on the internet has nothing to do with disrespecting a decision you've clearly made by having a poster once again mention something you have intellectually excluded . I would protect myself with a handgun. My choice. It's simple for me to use and effective. My choice is not disrespecting you. Chastise me all you want. Yet once again mentioning something you don't want to hear has nothing to do with disrespecting you. Creating all the barriers and elaborate security arrangements you need to formulate a plan of self protection and defense is wise. Quote potential thief Quote less-than-bright criminal Quote the guy who didn't bother to turn around and notice the man standing in the kitchen window that overlooked the very door he was trying to break into... so I'm not all that sure how observant he was. Instead of viewing this bumbler for what he truly may be. A drug addict strung out on heroin or crack looking for his next fix deluded out of his mind more than likely armed with a knife of some kind. You need to worry about that guy not respecting your wishes. Not the person sitting here wondering why you didn't post for a period of 1.5+ hours after an attempted home break-in/invasion. Nonetheless glad you are ok and taking measures to protect yourself as best you see fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #42 November 18, 2007 Quote Not the person sitting here wondering why you didn't post for a period of 1.5+ hours after an attempted home break-in/invasion. Okay, that made me smile ... but I do step away from the computer from time to time!!!! Even postwhores like me don't spend every minute online. FYI, I'm going to bed soon so it'll be hours before I'm back. My goal was to keep it out of Speakers' Corner territory and not get into the myriad reasons I choose not to own a firearm. That's the part about respecting my wishes that I was talking about. It goes a lot deeper than this, but quite honestly, my most pervasive reason has absolutely nothing to do with politics. You said this "It's simple for me to use and effective." I believe the exact opposite about myself. When I posted a few months ago looking for alarm options, the thread got into a bit of a tangent about firearms (and I got a few PMs as well encouraging me to reconsider my position). The post that made the most sense to me, though, was from Clay of all people. He said this "In all seriousness..............guns aren't for everyone. If you don't have what it takes to use one effectively you are probably better off without it. There are a RANGE of non-lethal alternatives to guns. There are even non-lethal rounds for shotguns. Maybe look at a stun gun pepper spray etc. " Nothing's changed. That still makes perfect sense to me."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 5 #43 November 18, 2007 1- I am so glad that yr safe and ok! 2-As a GUNOWNER, I am happy to see that a person knows when to say when about ownership! 3-guns/weapons are not for everyone for various reasons... 4-ESP if the user is not trained or practices. 4- I will never ever think of breaking into NightinGales place! YOU NG chica seem to ready! And I think thats wayIn fact NG I think you should take over the READY dot gov sight... NWF, you said yr kittys were running around, do you think it was them JUST playing or did you notice that it was a differnt type of playing? My daughters actually shoot targets better than I do!!! argh (more dryfiring for me I suppose) In the end, you are safe and that is the main thing, but now its time to act like you said and do some def class trng. The GRACIE klan have a GREAT video series on this for WOMEN, "RAPE SAFE" chk it out!! http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGkwcwGkBHrZwAy2JXNyoA?p=Gracie+RAPE+SAFE&y=Search&fr=opera2&ei=UTF-8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 5 #44 November 18, 2007 actually, I cant/dont see the RAPE SAFE series on any of their websites... I emailed Spiro at the main academy and inquiered about the video series... I will keep ya posted. If nothing happens I will try to burn you some copies... OUR world is just becoming overpopulated and this problem is increasing THUGDOM! Hell I never worry about or if my grlz cause trouble, its the the other peeps that I worry about for my family... We can never b to safe, but WE must still live w/o having to look over our shoulders all the time! : DD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 130 #45 November 18, 2007 glad you are OK a couple suggestions: most criminals will avoid noise and light, install notices on the windows that state there is a burglar alarm, install a flood light with a motion sensor pointed at your door/window, do not know if this really works but they sell an alarm that barks like a big dog - if the window breaks and a big dog starts barking that would deter most folks there are always easier targets and most criminals will go somewhere elseGive one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #46 November 18, 2007 I'm really glad you're OK, Krisanne. Really. I saw it recently on some TV ad for some kind of Sasquatch show but it brought back a memory... This girl I knew had a problem with a re-visiting peeping tom. She but boards around the house under all the windows. The boards had long nails in them sticking up. She covered them with a light layer of pine straw. It worked...twice. Evidently there was more than one peeping tom operating in the area.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galvar2439 0 #47 November 18, 2007 WOW, Glad you are ok, Maybe its time for a dog, it does not even have to be mean, just bark when he hears things, You might even be saving the dogs life if you get him (her) from the Pound or Humane Society.So i just broke up with this woman who wasn't even my girlfriend! Hellfish #782, POPS #10664 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #48 November 18, 2007 Glad you're OK, Krisanne. The bright side is it's a good learning experience and sounds like you've already taken some additional steps you might have put-off had it not been for the scare. I have one question: Do you have signs and/or stickers posted around your home making it clear you have a security system? Assuming the burglar was not a confused crack addict, if the goal is to break in, take some things, and escape uncaught it's likely they'll go to the next house that does not obviously have a security system.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #49 November 18, 2007 Do you have any motion-sensored outside lights? Those might also help. If the outside of your place was lit, do you think your neighbor might have gotten a better look at the guy from the angle he was at in his kitchen?She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 5 #50 November 18, 2007 Quote She but boards around the house under all the windows. The boards had long nails in them sticking up. She covered them with a light layer of pine straw. Some states have a "booby trap" (no not breasts) and if the perp gets hurts, the owner/leasor/leasee can be sued! and Goto jail! These laws/ordinances can vary from town to town, city to city state to state. We have one here where I live b/c I have thought of a few things I would like to do!!! All i know is that If I ever catch someone, the dude is gonna wish................. well I better just keep that idea to myself!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
