Darius11 12 #1 December 4, 2007 I have violent thoughts every day. They only last a sec. Usually when I am driving and some duch on a cell phone cuts me off. Believe it or not that happens daily to me in Rhode Island. I thought New York drivers were bad. But just want to see if need to get on crazy pills or do we all have violent thoughts about others even our selves some time.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 December 4, 2007 There is a difference between having thoughts and acting on them. As long as you don't cross that line, you're probably pretty normal.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #3 December 4, 2007 QuoteI have violent thoughts every day... If you were in a lawless place where there were no police and no bad consequences for violent behavior, would you act out those violent thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #4 December 4, 2007 QuoteThere is a difference between having thoughts and acting on them. As long as you don't cross that line, you're probably pretty normal. That’s kind of what I assumed, but I was having a discussion where I mentioned I often have violent, sexual, crazy , …etc thoughts daily and think most of us have the thoughts. I was told that. FYI most people don’t have thoughts like that. So I figured I should do a poll and see what most people say.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #5 December 4, 2007 QuoteThere is a difference between having thoughts and acting on them. There seems to be another component as well - what you say (or in this medium, what you write). Are what you do, what you say/write, and what you think in harmony/agreement/connosance? When those three are dissonant, someone (generally, not specifically) may be called 'hypocrite.' VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #6 December 4, 2007 QuoteQuoteI have violent thoughts every day... If you were in a lawless place where there were no police an no bad consequences for violent behavior, would you act out those violent thoughts? No I wouldn’t. The only justification for violence is violence. To clarify I mean when someone is doing violence to you or the people you care about that is the only time where I believe a reaction in violence might be necessary and justified. I don’t even kill the spiders in my house. I figure we all have a right to live, and as long as they don’t bite me we cool.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 December 4, 2007 Do you mean like applying a taser to the assholes nutsack because he deserves it??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 December 4, 2007 QuoteAre what you do, what you say/write, and what you think in harmony/agreement/connosance? Mmmm . . . I'm not so certain about that. That would mean that Stephan King is a hypocrite because he doesn't kill people and Tom Clance is a hypocrite because he's hasn't blown anybody up. Words are pretty cheap compared to actions.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #9 December 4, 2007 The big issue with writing things online or anywhere IMHO is that you can never tell the Tone of the conversation. That’s why I never like to have emotionally sensitive conversation with text or Email. Many times the tone you hear in your head as you are writing something is not the same as what the reader will interpret.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #10 December 4, 2007 Quote Do you mean like applying a taser to the assholes nutsack because he deserves it??? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 December 4, 2007 QuoteMany times the tone you hear in your head as you are writing something is not the same as what the reader will interpret. Hmmm why did religious texts and who wrote them jump into my mind when I read that.( choose any religious text) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #12 December 4, 2007 I think not just about that but all the history books we take as fact.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #13 December 4, 2007 QuoteThe big issue with writing things online or anywhere IMHO is that you can never tell the Tone of the conversation. Many times the tone you hear in your head as you are writing something is not the same as what the reader will interpret. Concur heartily. I largely read John Rich's response in the prior thread to be intentionally exaggerated (a la John Bolton) to make a point w/r/t the language you chose. ----- ---- ----- ---- QuoteQuoteAre what you do, what you say/write, and what you think in harmony/agreement/connosance? Mmmm . . . I'm not so certain about that. That would mean that Stephan King is a hypocrite because he doesn't kill people and Tom Clance is a hypocrite because he's hasn't blown anybody up. Fair enough. Exceptions for good and bad art excluded. I doubt, however, that you would disagree that the public figure who claims to be strictly against sex outside of marriage and publicly criticizes others for not adhering to his/her belief system ... but turns out to have 5 simultaneous extra-marital affairs has a problem with reconciling words, actions, and beliefs, yes? QuoteWords are pretty cheap compared to actions. Pragmatically, true; is that the standard that you to advocate? VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #14 December 4, 2007 I like Chinese food. My knives and guns are talking to me. Strangely enough, they are telling me to burn things. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 December 4, 2007 Quote I have violent thoughts every day. They only last a sec. Usually when I am driving and some duch on a cell phone cuts me off. Believe it or not that happens daily to me in Rhode Island. I thought New York drivers were bad. But just want to see if need to get on crazy pills or do we all have violent thoughts about others even our selves some time. OK, I have not voted yet nor have I looked at any of the results cause, in truth, the selections you have scare me"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 December 4, 2007 QuoteI doubt, however, that you would disagree that the public figure who claims to be strictly against sex outside of marriage and publicly criticizes others for not adhering to his/her belief system ... but turns out to have 5 simultaneous extra-marital affairs has a problem with reconciling words, actions, and beliefs, yes? I would agree to that. That said, we all have our struggles in life and nothing in real life is as simple as it may appear on the surface. Let me ask you this, while I'm struggling with demons of my own do I have to completely conquer them in order to talk about how they might negatively effect people or can I talk about the evils while I'm attempting to deal with them? I do see a shade of grey here.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #17 December 4, 2007 Hey you already said "I like Chinese food" so thats it your stuck nowHmmmmmmmm Chinese food sounds good. Crispy beef...............sounds good. Sorry i was writing to my self I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 December 4, 2007 Quote I have violent thoughts every day. They only last a sec. Usually when I am driving and some duch on a cell phone cuts me off. Believe it or not that happens daily to me in Rhode Island. I thought New York drivers were bad. But just want to see if need to get on crazy pills or do we all have violent thoughts about others even our selves some time. OK, now I have voted.. Be afraid, be very afraid"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #19 December 4, 2007 Quotesome duch on a cell phone cuts me off oh, don't get me started on Scandinavian drivers. Don't even go there. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 December 4, 2007 Quote Hey you already said "I like Chinese food" so thats it your stuck nowHmmmmmmmm Chinese food sounds good. Crispy beef...............sounds good. Sorry i was writing to my self I am glad you posted this thread. I am needing to chill out. I have gotten way tooooooo serious in the last couple of day"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #21 December 4, 2007 Darius after reading this post. (In my head) Ok you fuck learn this once and for all so you don’t fuck up again. Dush…..no fuck duche….fuck no…..Ok go to goggle and type summers eve ahhhhhhhh there we go douche ah fuck it i hate Scandinavian drivers too I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #22 December 4, 2007 QuoteThat’s kind of what I assumed, but I was having a discussion where I mentioned I often have violent, sexual, crazy , …etc thoughts daily and think most of us have the thoughts. Sounds right. When I read in the paper about some criminal who has done something terrible to an innocent person I think about how I would love to have the guy alone so I could torture him to death slowly. The truth is I would probably be scared shitless and even if I wasn't I could probably never have the stomach to actually do that to someone. So yes so long as it is harmless fantasy I see nothing wrong with it. I don't think it makes me evil to think such things. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #23 December 4, 2007 QuoteOk go to goggle and type summers eve That's your solution for everything. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #24 December 4, 2007 QuoteDo you have violent thoughts about others? Only when I read Speaker's Corner. Or sometimes when I think about Remster. But other than that, no. I often think that other people are idiots and/or assholes. But then I remember that I am one of the idiot/assholes, and I get over it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #25 December 4, 2007 Isn't the "Hey I like cats" and "I like Chinese food" sort of redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites