rushmc 23 #26 December 4, 2007 Quote Isn't the "Hey I like cats" and "I like Chinese food" sort of redundant? Dam very nice and hilarious "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #27 December 4, 2007 Depends on where you go for your Chines food. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #28 December 5, 2007 QuoteLet me ask you this, while I'm struggling with demons of my own do I have to completely conquer them in order to talk about how they might negatively effect people or can I talk about the evils while I'm attempting to deal with them? It depends on whether you can discern who is speaking. You or the demon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripple 0 #29 December 5, 2007 Quote If you were in a lawless place where there were no police and no bad consequences for violent behavior, would you act out those violent thoughts? Oh yes Next Mood Swing: 6 minutes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #30 December 5, 2007 I voted "No", however... On a related note, when I'm stopped in my car at a stop sign, look both ways, and proceed I often have a mental flash of another car slamming into me that I didn't see. It's weird. Happens all the time though. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #31 December 5, 2007 I'm not sure if you mean literally violent or just angry. I never have violent thoughts and I've been a victim of a violent crime twice. Angry thoughts, most definitely. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #32 December 5, 2007 Angry, Violent: what I mean is do you ever look at someone or see a person do something that makes you think. What an ass hole I want to kick his ass, Or look it that douche bag got it would feel good to punch his dumb ass. Just thoughts nothing more.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #33 December 5, 2007 Quotedo you ever look at someone or see a person do something that makes you think. What an ass hole I want to kick his assIt's usually the person driving like a doofus close to me that gets me thinking that way. Either she's a stupid fucking cunt on her cell phone, or a stupid fucking moron on his cell phone, or someone driving like a fucking moron that doesn't believe there's another car on the road besides them. That's why I live 3 miles from work; it's really not that good for me to put myself into situations all the time where I end up pissed like that. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #34 December 5, 2007 Quote It's usually the person driving like a doofus close to me that gets me thinking that way. Either she's a stupid fucking cunt on her cell phone, or a stupid fucking moron on his cell phone, or someone driving like a fucking moron that doesn't believe there's another car on the road besides them. I LOVE YOUand i should move closer to my job. Thats what i hear in my head as well, and people on their cell driving .I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripple 0 #35 December 5, 2007 Quote I LOVE YOU. Get in line Next Mood Swing: 6 minutes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #36 December 5, 2007 Quote I have violent thoughts every day. They only last a sec. Usually when I am driving and some duch on a cell phone cuts me off. Believe it or not that happens daily to me in Rhode Island. I thought New York drivers were bad. But just want to see if need to get on crazy pills or do we all have violent thoughts about others even our selves some time. You too huh? RI has the countries worst drivers... I want to get violent on them every day Arianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #37 December 5, 2007 QuoteAngry, Violent: what I mean is do you ever look at someone or see a person do something that makes you think. What an ass hole I want to kick his ass, Or look it that douche bag got it would feel good to punch his dumb ass. Just thoughts nothing more. Putting it that way, the answer would be yes. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #38 December 5, 2007 QuoteAngry, Violent: what I mean is do you ever look at someone or see a person do something that makes you think. What an ass hole I want to kick his ass, Or look it that douche bag got it would feel good to punch his dumb ass. Just thoughts nothing more. "What an ass hole I want to kick his ass, Or look at that douche bag got it would feel good to punch his dumb ass." I think the red parts and don't seem get to the other parts. I think that's the main point. I think there's a big difference between "what an asshole, I'm pissed at that manuver" vs "God! it would feel so good to smash his face in right now" If you look at Wendy's post that you relate to, I don't see her thoughts crossing that line either. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #39 December 5, 2007 What about some dude talking on his cell in at the movies (something that the inconvenience lasts longer then a short moment). Do you just say what an ass, and have no desire or thoughts about shoving his phone down his esophagus? I wonder if my real name is Mohammed.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #40 December 5, 2007 Quote What about some dude talking on his cell in at the movies (something that the inconvenience lasts longer then a short moment). Do you just say what an ass, and have no desire or thoughts about shoving his phone down his esophagus?. No - I don't think about physical violence on some stranger. Every example you've listed is about rudeness or self involved behavior by another. Also, these are also indirect violations against you - in other words, they aren't doing it to YOU on purpose. And, they are all anonymous. I don't think a measured response is physical violence. I think physical violence is a good response to someone else threatening or taking violence of their own. (That, and hording their oil). But I'd like to take his phone away, though. I've even commented to them "hey, put it away" half the time they will. The other half you can get an usher to kick him out of the theator. I haven't seen a cell phone in a movie in years - just in the previews, and could care less during that part. If you don't take some kind of direct action right away, then it'll sit and simmer and eventually it will build up into a real problem. Or an ulcer. Don't get me wrong, I'll get upset or mad, but I don't visualize violence on them. (exception - when someone is driving recklessly, I do frequently visualize them driving off the road and crashing as a result of their behavior. And it does seem satisfying. I'm not thrilled with that. But I don't visualize them coming into harm as a result of me committing direct violence on them) whether you agree or not, can you understand why I think there's a difference with being reasonably perturbed at some inconsiderate (anonymous) asshole and actually visualizing committing a violent crime on another? That's all I was asking. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #41 December 5, 2007 Quotewhether you agree or not, can you understand why I think there's a difference with being reasonably perturbed at some inconsiderate (anonymous) asshole and actually visualizing committing a violent crime on another? That's all I was asking. No I get you man. I just can’t believe that you do not have violent thoughts about people who annoy you. Or ever think about punching someone in the face. Good for you man. Even though I am not a violent person I have the thoughts, just as I have random sexual thoughts, happy thoughts and so on and so on.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #42 December 5, 2007 So, you have violent thoughts and sexual thoughts ... do you have violent sexual thoughts?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #43 December 5, 2007 Oh hell yea but we have a safe word so it is all good. How about you?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #44 December 5, 2007 Stepping back, in some ways many (not all) pieces of this whole thread have a sense of rationalization in the context from which it originated: Focus on “thoughts” (frequently in the proverbial ‘heat of the moment’) rather than what one does/doesn’t do with them and how one chooses to express those thoughts. It’s not about normatives – what one should or shouldn’t think (‘thought police’) – or say/write “infringing freedom of speech” – it’s about choices. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #45 December 5, 2007 QuoteOh hell yea but we have a safe word so it is all good. How about you? How would you describe your ability to understand and participate in social interactions? How would you describe your level of empathy?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #46 December 5, 2007 Well Doctor before I sit on your coach have you even answered the same questions yet? Do you ever have violent THOUGHTS?, or as you asked Violent or aggressive sexual thoughts?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #47 December 5, 2007 Quote I haven't seen a cell phone in a movie in years - just in the previews, and could care less during that part. What? You need a kick in the head. The previews are the best part! Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #48 December 5, 2007 Quote You need a kick in the head. So i guess you answered Yes to my pollI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #49 December 5, 2007 I answered "No", silly. I've never really understood the need for or enjoyed watching physical violence when not being used as a means of defense. Even then, it depends on the situation. I'm sure there's some situation sometime I could wrap my brain around it, but...nope can't think of any right now. Besides, I'm much more naturally skilled in mental torture. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #50 December 5, 2007 Quote There is a difference between having thoughts and acting on them. As long as you don't cross that line, you're probably pretty normal. Yep, pretty much. I might think or mutter to myself toward some other person "I hope you choke on your own vomit, you prick" or something like that, then a minute later I forget about it. The day you cross that line is probably the day you become a wanted man... until you're caught. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites