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a gun is a tool...dont blame the tool for the actions of the person behind the tool. Yes, they make killing easy, but the people determine how to use the tool. Take all of the law abiding citizens guns away, and the criminals will be the only one with guns. It doesnt matter what laws are in place, if you are deranged enough to want to kill someone with a gun, you'll be able to get a gun, most likely illegally. Not to mention that if you really wanna kill somebody, and can't get a gun, you'll still find a way to kill them. There's no such thing as a perfect society, and life is inherently dangerous. Now i'm just rambling.![[:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png "[:/]"){kind=small}
SkyDekker 1,465
Quotea gun is a tool...dont blame the tool for the actions of the person behind the tool.
You would be in favour of all countries around the world being in possession of nuclear weapons?
Why not? It's only a tool.
kallend 2,106
QuoteThere is nothing law abiding about a criminal who intentionall buys a gun, with valid ID etc. and transfers that weapon to a felon.
That is called a straw purchase, and is a FELONY.
Try again.
You're saying that these ostensibly "law abiding" purchasers are taking advantage of ridiculously lax rules to let criminals get guns from "law abiding" dealers whose sloppy business practices allow it to happen?
Well, there's another loophole that should be closed! Thanks for pointing it out.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteThere is nothing law abiding about a criminal who intentionall buys a gun, with valid ID etc. and transfers that weapon to a felon.
That is called a straw purchase, and is a FELONY.
Try again.
You're saying that these ostensibly "law abiding" purchasers are taking advantage of ridiculously lax rules to let criminals get guns from "law abiding" dealers whose sloppy business practices allow it to happen?
Well, there's another loophole that should be closed! Thanks for pointing it out.
"Ridiculously lax rules" ? What a crock of shit!
Name ANY other purchase where you have to pass a Federal background security check. Name ANY other purchase where the seller has to maintain records of the sale for life.
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
They are criminals who lie and cheat the system, and have not been caught yet.
Gonna come up with a future crime stopping machine?
Gonna come up with a future crime stopping machine?
I am positive at one time in your life that you broke a law, have you been charged and convicted yet?
If not why are you still able to purchase a firearm?
If not why are you still able to purchase a firearm?
Kallend just thinks stating something, and repeating it, will make it true, if done enough times.
kallend 2,106
QuoteQuoteQuoteThere is nothing law abiding about a criminal who intentionall buys a gun, with valid ID etc. and transfers that weapon to a felon.
That is called a straw purchase, and is a FELONY.
Try again.
You're saying that these ostensibly "law abiding" purchasers are taking advantage of ridiculously lax rules to let criminals get guns from "law abiding" dealers whose sloppy business practices allow it to happen?
Well, there's another loophole that should be closed! Thanks for pointing it out.
"Ridiculously lax rules" ? What a crock of shit!
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So how come they are so easily circumvented, then? Must be SOMETHING wrong with them if you and warped are to be believed.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
rushmc 23
"The" statement you made in this post that I reply to, fully expresses your position. The position you hold is stark in its arrogance.
The ONLY option you have in the US, if one is a citizen of our constitution, it to amend our constitution. You, and your anti constitutional position, have an improbable task. I, for one, will fight you, and your liberal brethren, will all I have to offer.
Thanks for help me understand where YOU stand sir.
The ONLY option you have in the US, if one is a citizen of our constitution, it to amend our constitution. You, and your anti constitutional position, have an improbable task. I, for one, will fight you, and your liberal brethren, will all I have to offer.
Thanks for help me understand where YOU stand sir.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Laws have never prevented any type of crime, they will continue to be committed regardless of how many laws are in place.
If free speech were outlawed, I highly doubt you would shut the fuck up.
If free speech were outlawed, I highly doubt you would shut the fuck up.
JohnRich 4
QuoteIf you see it taking 2 to 3 generations to make a difference, I say we start now rather than later.
Are you willing to be the first man in the door on the gun confiscation squad in your town?
How many other freedoms would you like to eliminate in the vain hope what somewhere 20 or 30 years later it "might" make a difference?
Sorry, but I'm going to have to require a little more proof of the efficacy of your proposal, before I turn my guns in. And the problem you have is that all the examples of gun control around the world and throughout history have all proven to be failures.
SkyDekker 1,465
QuoteAre you willing to be the first man in the door on the gun confiscation squad in your town?
Why not? I thought all these gun owners were good decent law abiding citizens? If the supreme court has upheld the deicion, wouldn't a good decent law abiding person follow the law?
Or are many only decent law abiding citizens when it suits them?
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteAre you willing to be the first man in the door on the gun confiscation squad in your town?
Why not? I thought all these gun owners were good decent law abiding citizens? If the supreme court has upheld the deicion, wouldn't a good decent law abiding person follow the law?
Or are many only decent law abiding citizens when it suits them?
So if the SC is the finial authority I expect no more comments from you when the SC upholds Bush's positions again
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
That is called a straw purchase, and is a FELONY.
Try again.
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