Bill Clinton says.......

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From AP

Clinton Says Hillary Was Always the One

Dec 10 03:50 PM US/Eastern
By MIKE GLOVER





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AMES, Iowa (AP) - Campaigning for his wife, former President Clinton says that when they were starting out he was so struck by her intellect and ability he once suggested she should just dump him and jump into her own political career.
That didn't happen, of course, and on Monday he gave an Iowa crowd his version of why it didn't.

"I thought it would be wrong for me to rob her of the chance to be what I thought she should be," said Clinton. "She laughed and said, 'First I love you and, second, I'm not going to run for anything, I'm too hardheaded.'"

Hillary Rodham Clinton is running now, and husband Bill was stumping for her in the 2008 campaign's leadoff caucus state—two days after rival Democrat Barack Obama got a full weekend's worth of attention by bringing in talk show queen Oprah Winfrey to campaign for him.

The former president opened a two-day swing through Iowa on behalf of his wife, packing nearly 500 people into a theater on the campus of Iowa State University.

"She has spent a lifetime as a change agent when she had the option to do other things," he said.

"I thought she was the most gifted person of our generation," said Clinton, who said he told her, "You know, you really should dump me and go back home to Chicago or go to New York and take one of those offers you've got and run for office."

Now that she's a New York senator and in a tight Democratic contest—with Illinois Sen. Obama and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards—the former president said he wanted to persuade voters that she has "the best combination of mind and heart."

He offered a self-deprecating view of the couple's early life in Arkansas.

"When she came down there and we got married, I was a defeated candidate for Congress with a $26,000 salary and a $42,00 campaign debt," said Clinton. "If she were half as calculating as someone said, that's a really great way to run for president."

In his latest Iowa swing, Clinton is bringing heavy attention to his wife, who is competing in the precinct caucuses that will launch the presidential nominating season on Jan. 3.

"It's one thing to have good intentions; it is another thing entirely to change people's lives," Clinton said. "She's the best non-incumbent I have ever had a chance to vote for. In my whole life I've never met anyone like her."

While Clinton remains very popular among Democrats, his image is mixed in the wider population. An Associated Press-Yahoo poll last month showed that 54 percent of those questioned had a very or somewhat favorable view of the former president, while 43 percent had a very or somewhat unfavorable view.

"He did an excellent job as president and we need some changes," said 82-year-old Morris Mericle, who attended Monday's event and said he wanted to see a former president he had voted for. Still, Mericle was keeping his options open for next year.

"I have an open mind," he said. "I have not decided, I'll wait and listen to the debates."

Maureen Ogle said she also wanted to keep her options open and was eager to sees a president about whom she has decidedly mixed views.

"I'm never going to forgive him for the way he humiliated his wife and daughter, but I would vote for him in a heartbeat,' said Ogle. "He is one of two or three of the most powerful people in the world."

Clinton was more than an hour late opening his swing in Ames, with campaign staffers alternately blaming the weather and airplane problems. Still, virtually everyone who showed up stuck around to hear a speech that was shorter than the wait.

"I'm out of politics now except every two years the Democrats kind of haul me out of the barn like an old horse to see if I can make it around the track one more time," he said.

Clinton said he would understand if people assume he has a prejudice in the 2008 race. "I always tell people when I speak that you're entitled to discount what I have to say," he said. "I want to say a few things that are very personal."

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It would be nice to have a president with an intellect and actually use it.....look how pandering to the low IQ rubes has worked out for the incompetent buffoon in the Oval Office.

You see when you go to school its really better to actually study and get an education.. than being a cheerleader.. and going to all the best FRAT parties so you can snort coke with your frat buddies and get drunk.

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It would be nice to have a president with an intellect and actually use it.....look how pandering to the low IQ rubes has worked out for this incompetent buffoon.

Yes, you are right. Clinton was (and is) and incompetent buffon!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It would be nice to have a president with an intellect and actually use it.....look how pandering to the low IQ rubes has worked out for this incompetent buffoon.

Yes, you are right. Clinton was (and is) and incompetent buffon!

Yep, Amazon has finally said somthing we can all agree on.

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Riiight.. Buffoons dont get Rhodes Scholarships....But rubes follow slavishly along with anything their masters come up with, no matter how imcompetent or illegal..

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We had an intellectual president in Carter. High intellect and high effectiveness are mutually exclusive.

Wilson was also highly intelligent.

Reagan, while not the "amiable dunce" that was suggested, also was in no danger of being conscripted by MENSA. But, Reagan was pragmatic. Kennedy was a pragmatist.

Bill Clinton was intelligent and a pragmatist, which was his success. It was noted in the article how he was being self-deprecating. THAT was his link. His wife just doesn't have that...

She's intelligent. But she seems to be too arrogant. Clinton was arrogant - he ran the presidency like a mob boss. He just didn't show it.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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We had an intellectual president in Carter. High intellect and high effectiveness are mutually exclusive.

Wilson was also highly intelligent.

Reagan, while not the "amiable dunce" that was suggested, also was in no danger of being conscripted by MENSA. But, Reagan was pragmatic. Kennedy was a pragmatist.

Bill Clinton was intelligent and a pragmatist, which was his success. It was noted in the article how he was being self-deprecating. THAT was his link. His wife just doesn't have that...

She's intelligent. But she seems to be too arrogant. Clinton was arrogant - he ran the presidency like a mob boss. He just didn't show it.

You sir have nailed it. I will add that Bill Clinton has no peer being a polition. He is (and most likely will be for a long time to come) more skilled at being a polition than anyone we may ever know.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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[But rubes follow slavishly along with anything their masters come up with, ..

I did not know you love Bill Clinton that much

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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You sir have nailed it. I will add that Bill Clinton has no peer being a polition. He is (and most likely will be for a long time to come) more skilled at being a polition than anyone we may ever know.

You're giving him a bit too much credit. He struggled to deal with the GOP minority in the Senate, in terms of legislation and nominees. It didn't get any better when they got the majority.

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Clinton was more than an hour late opening his swing in Ames, with campaign staffers alternately blaming the weather and airplane problems.

...sure...

Bill Clinton was the best president that Somalia ever had.

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It would be nice to have a president with an intellect and actually use it.....look how pandering to the low IQ rubes has worked out for the incompetent buffoon in the Oval Office.

You mean like illegal aliens, felons, and welfare losers?

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You sir have nailed it. I will add that Bill Clinton has no peer being a polition. He is (and most likely will be for a long time to come) more skilled at being a polition than anyone we may ever know.

You're giving him a bit too much credit. He struggled to deal with the GOP minority in the Senate, in terms of legislation and nominees. It didn't get any better when they got the majority.

I had a feeling this thread would be fun but even I had no idea

Oh, and you are right about the topics you posted

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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You mean like illegal aliens, felons, and welfare losers?

Uh.. Royd.......

You guys had TOTAL control of the Executive Branch, Congress, AND the Supreme Court.. why didnt you do something about that when you had the power to do so?????

Oh thats right... no one to clean the homes of the wealthy.. and japanese gardeners are so expensive these days.

Adn I was under the impression.. Bill Clinton ACTUALLY did something about welfare losers....... more so that Bush the Incompetent.

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Riiight.. Buffoons dont get Rhodes Scholarships....But rubes follow slavishly along with anything their masters come up with, no matter how imcompetent or illegal..

Being a Rhodes Scholar and being a buffoon are not mutually exclusive. Being awarded a Rhodes merely shows the person is an exceptional student, nothing more. It reveals little about character, integrity, trustworthiness, cooking and driving skills, health, or mental age.
Former President Clinton is a good example. Though he was a Rhodes Scholar he allowed himself to make many bad decisions in his personal life that tarnished what could have been a respectable presidency. Some of those decisions leave even people of less than average IQ scratching their heads saying, "What the Hell was he thinking??".

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Some of those decisions leave even people of less than average IQ scratching their heads saying, "What the Hell was he thinking??".

Are those the ones who cant get laid???

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I'm sure some of them couldn't. I'm sure some of them have no problem getting laid.

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Riiight.. Buffoons dont get Rhodes Scholarships....But rubes follow slavishly along with anything their masters come up with, no matter how imcompetent or illegal..

Being a Rhodes Scholar and being a buffoon are not mutually exclusive. Being awarded a Rhodes merely shows the person is an exceptional student, nothing more. It reveals little about character, integrity, trustworthiness, cooking and driving skills, health, or mental age.
Former President Clinton is a good example. Though he was a Rhodes Scholar he allowed himself to make many bad decisions in his personal life that tarnished what could have been a respectable presidency. Some of those decisions leave even people of less than average IQ scratching their heads saying, "What the Hell was he thinking??".

Intelligence is a tool. He may have used that tool to acquire knowledge, but it is the application of that knowledge where he failed.

He raised the H1-B high tech visa cap to 200,000.

The only praise for his handling of Somalia came from Osama Bin Laden in his interview by NPR.

His foreign policy seemed to be a constant ruinous failure.

It is funny that some people always relate a criticism of Clinton to his sexual activities. Rarely do they actually respond to the actual items discussed.

Of course, few care about the incidents involving known willing participants (Lewinsky, Flowers). If anyone really wanted to discuss the issue, it would be about the unwilling (Jones, Wiley, Broaddrick).
Funny (not) how repeated allegations of sexual assault are ignored. If he was not president, he would have been in jail.

I think he is intelligent, but he lacks the common sense to make valuable, correct decisions.

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It would be nice to have a president with an intellect and actually use it.....look how pandering to the low IQ rubes has worked out for this incompetent buffoon.

Yes, you are right. Clinton was (and is) and incompetent buffon!

Let me gues...you voted for that moron we call president today.

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We had an intellectual president in Carter. High intellect and high effectiveness are mutually exclusive.

In his (fairly) recent book, Greenspan called (W.J.) Clinton and Nixon the two most intelligent presidents he had worked with.

(Incidentally, he also said that Reagan had the least understanding of economics, which helps explain why trickle down economics/voodoo economics/Reaganomics failed as it did.)

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It would be nice to have a president with an intellect and actually use it.....look how pandering to the low IQ rubes has worked out for this incompetent buffoon.

Yes, you are right. Clinton was (and is) and incompetent buffon!

Let me gues...you voted for that moron we call president today.

YES, and I would again befroe Clinton, Clinton Kerry, Gore YES

It is tough to get your party's political ass kicked daily by a "moron" I assume!!!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It would be nice to have a president with an intellect and actually use it.....look how pandering to the low IQ rubes has worked out for this incompetent buffoon.

Yes, you are right. Clinton was (and is) and incompetent buffon!

Let me gues...you voted for that moron we call president today.

YES, and I would again befroe Clinton, Clinton Kerry, Gore YES

It is tough to get your party's political ass kicked daily by a "moron" I assume!!!

I am not bound by either party. I dont think in terms of Republican or Democrat...that pretty narrow minded. I think in terms of issues. So I dont really give a fuck who Bush beat. Nevertheless...he has proven to be a moron, and so have the people who voted for him the 2nd time.

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Your the one that wrote this so so much for your self proclaimed independance

"Let me gues...you voted for that moron we call president today."

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Your the one that wrote this so so much for your self proclaimed independance

"Let me gues...you voted for that moron we call president today."

You have to make a point when you quote someone.

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RON PAUL!

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RON PAUL!

Amen!

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