Hillary Muskie

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Claiming that makes her a "sociopath" is a pretty pathetic attempt to further discredit her.

I never, at any point, said that she was a sociopath.
It seems like you are trying to twist my words.
Since this wastes a lot of my time, if you want to avoid the topic, don't reply.

I used a sociopath as an example of a type that is only cognizant of their own pain, without recognition of it in others.

I first thought about that concept when I read The Stranger Beside Me by Anne Rule (about serial killer Ted Bundy).

TB was a pol-sci major in Wash state and worked as an aide to the man who eventually became governor.
The governor mentioned that TB was a sociopath and asked how he could be so successful.

Ted replied that he had met more sociopaths in politics than in jail.

You are right, Hillary may be quite upset about her personal losses.
But my concern is that she isn't above lying (again) to fulfill her political aspirations. It may just be a good acting job.

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>I never, at any point, said that she was a sociopath.

"If there is any question as to whether her crying was real, it is because she destroyed her credibility . . .A defining characteristic of a sociopath is that they experience emotional pain, but only their own. They have no feelings for others. Showing emotion isn't that big a deal."

You implied it as clearly as you were able.

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Dang! Hillary won!

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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>I never, at any point, said that she was a sociopath.

"If there is any question as to whether her crying was real, it is because she destroyed her credibility . . .A defining characteristic of a sociopath is that they experience emotional pain, but only their own. They have no feelings for others. Showing emotion isn't that big a deal."

You implied it as clearly as you were able.

You should be working at Bennihannas with cutting skill like that. You could get steak out of a pork chop.

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...she doesn't show emotion, she's a fake, manipulative, plastic ice queen - and who wants a president like that?

See what I mean?

My original post was clearly separated as a paragraph.

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A defining characteristic of a sociopath is that they experience emotional pain, but only their own. They have no feelings for others. Showing emotion isn't that big a deal.

My original point still stands. The idea that she shows emotion is not a big deal. Everyone does it.

As I said earlier, though, I certainly understand how the stress of everything involved would bring her to that.

Now that you highlight it, it does seem odd that this is the first time in 10 years that I remember her crying.
It makes it seem a little more fake that it occurs now.

No one else seems to have misunderstood.
I don't think that your reading skills are that poor.

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Dang! Hillary won!

Ya but she will only get one more delegate than Obama. I know the press will maker it out to be this great victory, but it is only because they present this huge momentum image.

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Dang! Hillary won!

I like this quote from her:

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"Over the last week, I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice,"

Are you kidding me?

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this is the first time in 10 years that I remember her crying.

How much time have you spent with her in the past 10 years?

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I like this quote from her:

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"Over the last week, I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice,"

Are you kidding me?

Yeah, I heard that this morning and my eyes just rolled back into my head. Very stupid line and if you think about it for even 1 nano second makes no sense whatsoever.

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this is the first time in 10 years that I remember her crying.

How much time have you spent with her in the past 10 years?

I evaluate politicians on what they present to the public. It is not a private issue.

Her behavior changed from her previous (10 years) of public appearances on tv. That is what I am discussing, the "why" of it.

I am just weighing whether this is just a politically advantageous act.

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I have to say: "emotional mess"? Because she barely teared up in an interview?

I've watched the video of that interview several times, and I'm not seeing anything that looks even close to crying. In fact, she appears to give a very composed answer to the woman's question. I guess I'm just missing it, but if it's that subtle, then it doesn't seem newsworthy to me. Though I'm not surprised that the media would make a big deal out of nothing.

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They made a big deal b/c she doesn't ordinarily even give that much.

But, I agree--for the most part--who cares? And it's not the media I was quoting.

I just hardly see her response (genuine or not) as being crazy emotional or "politically suicidal" or whatever. Lord, the drama!

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I have to say: "emotional mess"? Because she barely teared up in an interview?

I've watched the video of that interview several times, and I'm not seeing anything that looks even close to crying. In fact, she appears to give a very composed answer to the woman's question. I guess I'm just missing it, but if it's that subtle, then it doesn't seem newsworthy to me. Though I'm not surprised that the media would make a big deal out of nothing.

The press wants blood. The media are always accused of favouring one candidate or another during elections, but what I have seen over the years is that they really just want drama. Election coverage is often compared to that of a horse race, but really it is more like a Grand Prix; if Lucy's Mistake and Stargazer are neck and neck for eleven months people will get bored and look away. What the press wants to show you is Alonzo running over his pitt crew and losing a lap. We need Fissicella and Raikonnen crashing spectacularly, Massa making a bold move on the inside wall only to tag the wall and fall back, Hamilton to smoothly make his move outside; we want PASSING dammit!

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In the beginning she would not even share Bill's last name.

What does that have to do with anything?

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And it's not the media I was quoting.

Ok, so lawrocket was also making a big deal out of nothing. And anyone else on here who is talking about Hillary "crying" or being "in tears" - makes me wonder if they actually watched the video or if they just assumed that some exaggerated news story was accurate.

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The press wants blood. The media are always accused of favouring one candidate or another during elections, but what I have seen over the years is that they really just want drama.

They want drama, yes...but there's definitely favoritism going on.

I do like how different factions of the MSM seem to be supporting different candidates... "confusion to the enemy", so to speak.

Mike
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I just write it off to the high level of misogyny here.

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Him and others.

But, I like those I quoted. I'm just respectfully disagreeing.

The argument over Hilary caring more about her personal life or her political life was super-cute, too. Hee-larious! Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass if she DOES care more about her political life. I'm not saying she does. Sometimes we're better at one than the other--or I should say stronger at one than the other. Or, actually "different' at one than the other. We can be "aggressive" in our "job" and "weak" in our relationship or vice-versa simultaneously.

What I care about is which relates to the job. B/c it's "the job" that affects me.

Call me selfish. I'm certain I won't care.

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high level of misogyny here.

Is that the new word? "Misogyny?"

I thought the word of the month was "change".

Change. Change. Change.

Change, what? How?

Somebody change!

Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

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The press wants blood. The media are always accused of favouring one candidate or another during elections, but what I have seen over the years is that they really just want drama.

They want drama, yes...but there's definitely favoritism going on.

I do like how different factions of the MSM seem to be supporting different candidates... "confusion to the enemy", so to speak.

Yah Fox is "a little liberal."

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The press wants blood. The media are always accused of favouring one candidate or another during elections, but what I have seen over the years is that they really just want drama.

They want drama, yes...but there's definitely favoritism going on.

I do like how different factions of the MSM seem to be supporting different candidates... "confusion to the enemy", so to speak.

Yah Fox is "a little liberal."

Actually, yes... if you look at the many reports that have been done showing media bias. The Pew center among others have shown that repeatedly.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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In the beginning she would not even share Bill's last name.

What does that have to do with anything?

OK, this is my observation having lived in Arkansas during the Clinton reign. Don't you think it odd that the wife of a new governor would not take his last name?

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Don't you think it odd that the wife of a new governor would not take his last name?

Well, not really. Unless she thought that taking his last name would help his or her career. Other than that, I can't think of any reason why it would be odd for her to keep her own last name.

I find it odd that anyone still expects women to take their husbands' last names.

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I find it odd that anyone still expects women to take their husbands' last names.

Well, it's nice when you can call a couple, "the Whatevers".

And it helps if you aren't fond of your own last name. I'm not. I LOVE BZ's last name. It's super-cool. But, it's not like I'll marry him for it or anything.

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Don't you think it odd that the wife of a new governor would not take his last name?

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Well, not really. Unless she thought that taking his last name would help his or her career. Other than that, I can't think of any reason why it would be odd for her to keep her own last name.

I find it odd that anyone still expects women to take their husbands' last names.

I don't know. It's something about a man and a woman becoming one. I quess if you don't really believe that, why even waste the money and energy of going through the process?

There are lots of little bastards running around this country.

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I don't know. It's something about a man and a woman becoming one. I quess if you don't really believe that, why even waste the money and energy of going through the process?

That's a completely unrelated correlation.

While in my personal life I very much like the symbolism of sharing one name, I've got an established publication & professional record under another name.

VR/Marg

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