cjunken 0 #26 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuotewhat makes it fiction? Statements that WTC was planted with explosives so that it would fall down very presicely. -If someone has already decided that they're going to cause destruction that scale, then who gives a crap what else it takes down. Nevermind the massive scale it would take to install and wire these things in a highly secure building. Their description of the collapse was incorrect. They show the slabs to shear at the interior columns, stressing that those are the major structural members. In actuality the Towers took much of their support fromthe perimeter structure, a structural tube design. The interior columns didn't stand a chance once the slabs started pancaking and snapped like toothpicks. http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html *** I agree that planting these explosives would have to be on a rather large scale and does seem a bit unrealistic, but not impossible. I read your link differently.....Its misleading to say that "much" of the support was taken by the perimeter. I would say a majority was taken by the core and enough lightweight steel was used on the perimeter to stiffen the structure against wind loads and support the curtainwall. Also, the report just said that main failure was likely at the clip angles that ultimately carried the floor load. So its kind of unclear whether this failure was at the perimeter or the core. Either way based on the structural loading of the floors if you loss one or two your screwed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cjunken 0 #27 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuotewhat makes it fiction? No wreckage found at the Pentagon. - Wrong No wreckage found at the Pentagon. -Black box found 25 ft underground No wreckage found at WTC. - You're right, we saw 50 camera angles of it going in but it must have snuck out the back. Other quotes are used out of context or are said in a way that are misleading, such as W. Wilson's quote about us being controlled by creditors. In this piece it says it was (after ratifying the federal reserve) years later that he wrote this. It was actually not something he wrote in the academic sense but was part of his speech in his NEXT campaign. The movie showed debirs at the pentagon. I don't think they were arguing what hit it....were they? I think the point was the quickness that it was covered up and people going on the assumption that a proper investigation took place. Have you read an info stating how long the wreckage was left in place? Do you standards on aircraft wreckage recovery after an accident? Also, I never heard them say they didn't recover any plane wreckage from WTC site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #28 January 10, 2008 QuoteI agree that planting these explosives would have to be on a rather large scale and does seem a bit unrealistic, but not impossible. Oh, please... think logically, here. You're talking about drilling holes in the majority of the support beams throughout the entire structure - do you REALLY think that nobody would have seen that, or asked questions? Do you REALLY think that nobody involved with a project like that wouldn't have come forward by now?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DJL 235 #29 January 10, 2008 The brother of our old director of engineering had a very well put-together report on the collapse. I'll see if I can find it. But basically, the movie shows the structure as depending almost entirely on the central columns and that the collapse would have been impossible if it were not for demolition charges shearing the columns. Very untrue. Once a single floor went, it was all over. (Nope, couldn't find report.)"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cjunken 0 #30 January 10, 2008 so your saying its impossible? The movie wasn't referring to a mass brigade of workers prepping the building with explosives. The chemical that they were refering to, which I've never heard of, would only have to be used sparingly. It could of been accomplished by a couple of people and why would they tell on themselves? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DJL 235 #31 January 10, 2008 Quote The movie showed debirs at the pentagon. I don't think they were arguing what hit it....were they? I think the point was the quickness that it was covered up and people going on the assumption that a proper investigation took place. Have you read an info stating how long the wreckage was left in place? Do you standards on aircraft wreckage recovery after an accident? Also, I never heard them say they didn't recover any plane wreckage from WTC site. CSI Miami wasn't going to find anything at the Pentagon. It's a military base, they needed to clear the mess and get back to work. A plane flew into it. It was documented. What else was there to figure out?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DJL 235 #32 January 10, 2008 QuoteThe chemical that they were refering to, which I've never heard of, would only have to be used sparingly. So you've never heard of the chemical but know that it only needs to be used sparingly?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cjunken 0 #33 January 10, 2008 QuoteThe brother of our old director of engineering had a very well put-together report on the collapse. I'll see if I can find it. But basically, the movie shows the structure as depending almost entirely on the central columns and that the collapse would have been impossible if it were not for demolition charges shearing the columns. Very untrue. Once a single floor went, it was all over. (Nope, couldn't find report.) I'd be interested to read. My interpretation of the article you linked earlier leans toward the fire destroying the structural intergrity of the core steel and most importantly the angles that support the floors. The deformation that was caused lead to the floor collapse. I didn't recall any talk about demo charges on those upper floors in the video and the building did relay almost entirely on this core. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cjunken 0 #34 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe chemical that they were refering to, which I've never heard of, would only have to be used sparingly. So you've never heard of the chemical but know that it only needs to be used sparingly? Thats what the engineer in the video alluded to. edit: we could go back and forthfor days and I'm not saying that would be bad, but what was your opinion on part 1 or 3. Is our government orchestraing wars for private corpate interests? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #35 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe chemical that they were refering to, which I've never heard of, would only have to be used sparingly. So you've never heard of the chemical but know that it only needs to be used sparingly? Pixie dust, maybe...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DJL 235 #36 January 10, 2008 Quote I'd be interested to read. My interpretation of the article you linked earlier leans toward the fire destroying the structural intergrity of the core steel and most importantly the angles that support the floors. The deformation that was caused lead to the floor collapse. I didn't recall any talk about demo charges on those upper floors in the video and the building did relay almost entirely on this core. That's correct it's what started the collapse, but we need to separate the concepts. The second thing that happened was that the floors pancaked and destroyed the structure within the core as it fell. This movie is saying that it would be impossible without large-scale demolition charges. See this site also http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtml"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DJL 235 #37 January 10, 2008 QuoteIs our government orchestraing wars for private corpate interests? I don't know but we're definitely going into wars over bogus reasons, I just don't take this film as the factual spokespiece."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cjunken 0 #38 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuote I'd be interested to read. My interpretation of the article you linked earlier leans toward the fire destroying the structural intergrity of the core steel and most importantly the angles that support the floors. The deformation that was caused lead to the floor collapse. I didn't recall any talk about demo charges on those upper floors in the video and the building did relay almost entirely on this core. That's correct it's what started the collapse, but we need to separate the concepts. The second thing that happened was that the floors pancaked and destroyed the structure within the core as it fell. This movie is saying that it would be impossible without large-scale demolition charges. See this site also http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtml What about the portion of the video that showed the column sheared in manner consistent with demo practices and appeared to have been blasted or melted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cjunken 0 #39 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteIs our government orchestraing wars for private corpate interests? I don't know but we're definitely going into wars over bogus reasons, I just don't take this film as the factual spokespiece. agree! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Para_Frog 1 #40 January 10, 2008 I've said it a thousand times: Take a deep hard look at our government. Now...do you REALLY think they could pull that off with complete efficiency? No leaks? Total obedience by hundreds of people? Dude. You're killing me. DoD can't wipe their collective ass without 27 wrong decisions, micromanagement and approval of 46 0-6s, an overpaid contract...that was executed in the wrong place... You get my drift. Star Trek dude. The tin foil hat people just don't get it.- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cjunken 0 #41 January 10, 2008 I suppose you're going to tell me that NASA isn't responsible for JFK assassination? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Para_Frog 1 #42 January 10, 2008 No man. I shot that fucker. Wanted to poke Jackie. I got a thing for hats.- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DJL 235 #43 January 10, 2008 QuoteI suppose you're going to tell me that NASA isn't responsible for JFK assassination? Oh hell, they couldn't even keep the fake moon landing a secret. http://youtube.com/watch?v=GuwyY2DzO2I"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cjunken 0 #44 January 10, 2008 Quote Quote I suppose you're going to tell me that NASA isn't responsible for JFK assassination? Oh hell, they couldn't even keep the fake moon landing a secret. http://youtube.com/watch?v=GuwyY2DzO2I So it might take 35 more years before these truths are exposed Good talk...I'm outty your video is hilarious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tony-tonysuits 0 #45 January 10, 2008 CSI Miami wasn't going to find anything at the Pentagon. It's a military base, they needed to clear the mess and get back to work. A plane flew into it. It was documented. What else was there to figure out? ---------------------------- it made a hole in the pentagon, but the windows either side of the hole were intact??? many saw a cruse missile hit it, the only 3 metal buildings in history to come down due to fire were those 3, the steel melts at a much higher temp than jet fuel can deliver, the buildings were designed to take a 727? strike, why did the 3rd building fall, the one investigating wall street? how bout the Federal reserve not being gov owned, I didn't know that, we pay interest on every buck we buy, Iraq was the first country to say there trading oil in Euros not $, then Iran then Venezuela, all the country's were messing with, and N, Korea too, how bout the ONE government bit and we all have micro chips in us, they can "switch it off if we misbehave" ho ho ho please prove it all wrong,Life is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tony-tonysuits 0 #46 January 10, 2008 Take a deep hard look at our government. Now...do you REALLY think they could pull that off with complete efficiency? No leaks? Total obedience by hundreds of people? -------------------------------- our government is a small part of it all, and 5 guys can do a lot, they shut those parts of the WTCenter down the days before 911, and the two terrorist exercise's AT THE SAME TIME as both 911 and the London train bombings????Life is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #47 January 10, 2008 It's been debunked over and over and over again. Just do an internet search.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DJL 235 #48 January 10, 2008 QuoteCSI Miami wasn't going to find anything at the Pentagon. It's a military base, they needed to clear the mess and get back to work. A plane flew into it. It was documented. What else was there to figure out? ---------------------------- it made a hole in the pentagon, but the windows either side of the hole were intact??? many saw a cruse missile hit it, the only 3 metal buildings in history to come down due to fire were those 3, the steel melts at a much higher temp than jet fuel can deliver, the buildings were designed to take a 727? strike, why did the 3rd building fall, the one investigating wall street? how bout the Federal reserve not being gov owned, I didn't know that, we pay interest on every buck we buy, Iraq was the first country to say there trading oil in Euros not $, then Iran then Venezuela, all the country's were messing with, and N, Korea too, how bout the ONE government bit and we all have micro chips in us, they can "switch it off if we misbehave" ho ho ho please prove it all wrong, Every once in a while I paused the movie to check a fact. Many were wrong. If you're not willing to do that and you take this movie for the truth and don't question it then I can't help you."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tony-tonysuits 0 #49 January 10, 2008 Every once in a while I paused the movie to check a fact. Many were wrong. If you're not willing to do that and you take this movie for the truth and don't question it then I can't help you. ----------------------------------------- well please do tell us, what facts were wrong and who it was that delivered the second version of the "facts" I listened to a lot of people in that video that were experts, the very people that designed the WTcenter, were his statements incorrect? I know...... a Gov spokesperson said he was wrong correct? and that Kennedy was shot by one majik bullet people think it unpatriotic to criticize there government, I think it's unpatriotic to NOT see the corruption, the lies, the constitution started...WE THE PEOPLE, didn't it? I thing big Gov, big Pharmaceutical and the FDA forgot that bitLife is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pirana 0 #50 January 10, 2008 I say take the red pill. And do it before 2012. It's kinda like jumping up out of your seat before a plane crashess. 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cjunken 0 #27 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuotewhat makes it fiction? No wreckage found at the Pentagon. - Wrong No wreckage found at the Pentagon. -Black box found 25 ft underground No wreckage found at WTC. - You're right, we saw 50 camera angles of it going in but it must have snuck out the back. Other quotes are used out of context or are said in a way that are misleading, such as W. Wilson's quote about us being controlled by creditors. In this piece it says it was (after ratifying the federal reserve) years later that he wrote this. It was actually not something he wrote in the academic sense but was part of his speech in his NEXT campaign. The movie showed debirs at the pentagon. I don't think they were arguing what hit it....were they? I think the point was the quickness that it was covered up and people going on the assumption that a proper investigation took place. Have you read an info stating how long the wreckage was left in place? Do you standards on aircraft wreckage recovery after an accident? Also, I never heard them say they didn't recover any plane wreckage from WTC site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 January 10, 2008 QuoteI agree that planting these explosives would have to be on a rather large scale and does seem a bit unrealistic, but not impossible. Oh, please... think logically, here. You're talking about drilling holes in the majority of the support beams throughout the entire structure - do you REALLY think that nobody would have seen that, or asked questions? Do you REALLY think that nobody involved with a project like that wouldn't have come forward by now?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #29 January 10, 2008 The brother of our old director of engineering had a very well put-together report on the collapse. I'll see if I can find it. But basically, the movie shows the structure as depending almost entirely on the central columns and that the collapse would have been impossible if it were not for demolition charges shearing the columns. Very untrue. Once a single floor went, it was all over. (Nope, couldn't find report.)"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjunken 0 #30 January 10, 2008 so your saying its impossible? The movie wasn't referring to a mass brigade of workers prepping the building with explosives. The chemical that they were refering to, which I've never heard of, would only have to be used sparingly. It could of been accomplished by a couple of people and why would they tell on themselves? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #31 January 10, 2008 Quote The movie showed debirs at the pentagon. I don't think they were arguing what hit it....were they? I think the point was the quickness that it was covered up and people going on the assumption that a proper investigation took place. Have you read an info stating how long the wreckage was left in place? Do you standards on aircraft wreckage recovery after an accident? Also, I never heard them say they didn't recover any plane wreckage from WTC site. CSI Miami wasn't going to find anything at the Pentagon. It's a military base, they needed to clear the mess and get back to work. A plane flew into it. It was documented. What else was there to figure out?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #32 January 10, 2008 QuoteThe chemical that they were refering to, which I've never heard of, would only have to be used sparingly. So you've never heard of the chemical but know that it only needs to be used sparingly?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjunken 0 #33 January 10, 2008 QuoteThe brother of our old director of engineering had a very well put-together report on the collapse. I'll see if I can find it. But basically, the movie shows the structure as depending almost entirely on the central columns and that the collapse would have been impossible if it were not for demolition charges shearing the columns. Very untrue. Once a single floor went, it was all over. (Nope, couldn't find report.) I'd be interested to read. My interpretation of the article you linked earlier leans toward the fire destroying the structural intergrity of the core steel and most importantly the angles that support the floors. The deformation that was caused lead to the floor collapse. I didn't recall any talk about demo charges on those upper floors in the video and the building did relay almost entirely on this core. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjunken 0 #34 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe chemical that they were refering to, which I've never heard of, would only have to be used sparingly. So you've never heard of the chemical but know that it only needs to be used sparingly? Thats what the engineer in the video alluded to. edit: we could go back and forthfor days and I'm not saying that would be bad, but what was your opinion on part 1 or 3. Is our government orchestraing wars for private corpate interests? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe chemical that they were refering to, which I've never heard of, would only have to be used sparingly. So you've never heard of the chemical but know that it only needs to be used sparingly? Pixie dust, maybe...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #36 January 10, 2008 Quote I'd be interested to read. My interpretation of the article you linked earlier leans toward the fire destroying the structural intergrity of the core steel and most importantly the angles that support the floors. The deformation that was caused lead to the floor collapse. I didn't recall any talk about demo charges on those upper floors in the video and the building did relay almost entirely on this core. That's correct it's what started the collapse, but we need to separate the concepts. The second thing that happened was that the floors pancaked and destroyed the structure within the core as it fell. This movie is saying that it would be impossible without large-scale demolition charges. See this site also http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtml"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #37 January 10, 2008 QuoteIs our government orchestraing wars for private corpate interests? I don't know but we're definitely going into wars over bogus reasons, I just don't take this film as the factual spokespiece."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjunken 0 #38 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuote I'd be interested to read. My interpretation of the article you linked earlier leans toward the fire destroying the structural intergrity of the core steel and most importantly the angles that support the floors. The deformation that was caused lead to the floor collapse. I didn't recall any talk about demo charges on those upper floors in the video and the building did relay almost entirely on this core. That's correct it's what started the collapse, but we need to separate the concepts. The second thing that happened was that the floors pancaked and destroyed the structure within the core as it fell. This movie is saying that it would be impossible without large-scale demolition charges. See this site also http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtml What about the portion of the video that showed the column sheared in manner consistent with demo practices and appeared to have been blasted or melted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjunken 0 #39 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteIs our government orchestraing wars for private corpate interests? I don't know but we're definitely going into wars over bogus reasons, I just don't take this film as the factual spokespiece. agree! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para_Frog 1 #40 January 10, 2008 I've said it a thousand times: Take a deep hard look at our government. Now...do you REALLY think they could pull that off with complete efficiency? No leaks? Total obedience by hundreds of people? Dude. You're killing me. DoD can't wipe their collective ass without 27 wrong decisions, micromanagement and approval of 46 0-6s, an overpaid contract...that was executed in the wrong place... You get my drift. Star Trek dude. The tin foil hat people just don't get it.- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjunken 0 #41 January 10, 2008 I suppose you're going to tell me that NASA isn't responsible for JFK assassination? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para_Frog 1 #42 January 10, 2008 No man. I shot that fucker. Wanted to poke Jackie. I got a thing for hats.- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #43 January 10, 2008 QuoteI suppose you're going to tell me that NASA isn't responsible for JFK assassination? Oh hell, they couldn't even keep the fake moon landing a secret. http://youtube.com/watch?v=GuwyY2DzO2I"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjunken 0 #44 January 10, 2008 Quote Quote I suppose you're going to tell me that NASA isn't responsible for JFK assassination? Oh hell, they couldn't even keep the fake moon landing a secret. http://youtube.com/watch?v=GuwyY2DzO2I So it might take 35 more years before these truths are exposed Good talk...I'm outty your video is hilarious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-tonysuits 0 #45 January 10, 2008 CSI Miami wasn't going to find anything at the Pentagon. It's a military base, they needed to clear the mess and get back to work. A plane flew into it. It was documented. What else was there to figure out? ---------------------------- it made a hole in the pentagon, but the windows either side of the hole were intact??? many saw a cruse missile hit it, the only 3 metal buildings in history to come down due to fire were those 3, the steel melts at a much higher temp than jet fuel can deliver, the buildings were designed to take a 727? strike, why did the 3rd building fall, the one investigating wall street? how bout the Federal reserve not being gov owned, I didn't know that, we pay interest on every buck we buy, Iraq was the first country to say there trading oil in Euros not $, then Iran then Venezuela, all the country's were messing with, and N, Korea too, how bout the ONE government bit and we all have micro chips in us, they can "switch it off if we misbehave" ho ho ho please prove it all wrong,Life is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-tonysuits 0 #46 January 10, 2008 Take a deep hard look at our government. Now...do you REALLY think they could pull that off with complete efficiency? No leaks? Total obedience by hundreds of people? -------------------------------- our government is a small part of it all, and 5 guys can do a lot, they shut those parts of the WTCenter down the days before 911, and the two terrorist exercise's AT THE SAME TIME as both 911 and the London train bombings????Life is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #47 January 10, 2008 It's been debunked over and over and over again. Just do an internet search.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #48 January 10, 2008 QuoteCSI Miami wasn't going to find anything at the Pentagon. It's a military base, they needed to clear the mess and get back to work. A plane flew into it. It was documented. What else was there to figure out? ---------------------------- it made a hole in the pentagon, but the windows either side of the hole were intact??? many saw a cruse missile hit it, the only 3 metal buildings in history to come down due to fire were those 3, the steel melts at a much higher temp than jet fuel can deliver, the buildings were designed to take a 727? strike, why did the 3rd building fall, the one investigating wall street? how bout the Federal reserve not being gov owned, I didn't know that, we pay interest on every buck we buy, Iraq was the first country to say there trading oil in Euros not $, then Iran then Venezuela, all the country's were messing with, and N, Korea too, how bout the ONE government bit and we all have micro chips in us, they can "switch it off if we misbehave" ho ho ho please prove it all wrong, Every once in a while I paused the movie to check a fact. Many were wrong. If you're not willing to do that and you take this movie for the truth and don't question it then I can't help you."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-tonysuits 0 #49 January 10, 2008 Every once in a while I paused the movie to check a fact. Many were wrong. If you're not willing to do that and you take this movie for the truth and don't question it then I can't help you. ----------------------------------------- well please do tell us, what facts were wrong and who it was that delivered the second version of the "facts" I listened to a lot of people in that video that were experts, the very people that designed the WTcenter, were his statements incorrect? I know...... a Gov spokesperson said he was wrong correct? and that Kennedy was shot by one majik bullet people think it unpatriotic to criticize there government, I think it's unpatriotic to NOT see the corruption, the lies, the constitution started...WE THE PEOPLE, didn't it? I thing big Gov, big Pharmaceutical and the FDA forgot that bitLife is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #50 January 10, 2008 I say take the red pill. And do it before 2012. It's kinda like jumping up out of your seat before a plane crashess. Although doing so will cause you to miss Planet X." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
