jenfly00 0 #26 January 12, 2008 QuoteFull access to our lives isn't the proposal. And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself ...amazing.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #27 January 12, 2008 Quote Quote Full access to our lives isn't the proposal. And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself ...amazing. Nice PA... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #28 January 12, 2008 Quote>Yeah, those guys definitely know their job. For example, Osama Bin >Laden is celebrating his 51st birthday in 2008. Good point. We should put a special sticker on his driver's license so everyone knows he's a terrorist. Make sure he gets that extra screening at airports and whatnot. He could also be stopped from illegally/fraudulently?voting. Wonder who he would try to vote for.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #29 January 12, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Full access to our lives isn't the proposal. And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself ...amazing. Nice PA... My bad. Let me translate that into something you might understand. Perhaps I should have said, 'You do not understand what is happening'. I realize two of the words have three syllables but if you put your finger on the words and sound them out slowly, you might get it. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grannyinthesky 0 #30 January 12, 2008 QuoteNote to terrorists: Recruit a few 50 year olds to carry your bombs and you are fine. I mean seriously - how stupid ARE these fucking people??? Do you even need to ask?"safety first... and What the hell..... safety second, Too!!! " ~~jmy POPS #10490 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 January 12, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Full access to our lives isn't the proposal. And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself ...amazing. Nice PA... My bad. Let me translate that into something you might understand. Perhaps I should have said, 'You do not understand what is happening'. I realize two of the words have three syllables but if you put your finger on the words and sound them out slowly, you might get it. ...two in a row. On a roll now ......."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #32 January 12, 2008 Just blame it on THE educational system again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 January 12, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Full access to our lives isn't the proposal. And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself ...amazing. Nice PA... My bad. Let me translate that into something you might understand. Perhaps I should have said, 'You do not understand what is happening'. I realize two of the words have three syllables but if you put your finger on the words and sound them out slowly, you might get it. Can you actually debate anything, or is your purpose here just to take cheap shots at anyone who disagrees with you?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #34 January 13, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Full access to our lives isn't the proposal. And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself ...amazing. Nice PA... My bad. Let me translate that into something you might understand. Perhaps I should have said, 'You do not understand what is happening'. I realize two of the words have three syllables but if you put your finger on the words and sound them out slowly, you might get it. Can you actually debate anything, or is your purpose here just to take cheap shots at anyone who disagrees with you? Sigh ,,,men. I said what I had to say without trying to impress anyone. My original comment was apparent to anyone functional literacy .;..he did not understand the ramifications of the proposal. You and rush understood that, you just took the opportunity for your version of a cheap shot. Ironically, of the three of us, I was the only one addressing the issue ...unless, of course, you determined the issue was running to moderators like a snitching little sister. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #35 January 13, 2008 >And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself . Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #36 January 13, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Full access to our lives isn't the proposal. And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself ...amazing. Nice PA... My bad. Let me translate that into something you might understand. Perhaps I should have said, 'You do not understand what is happening'. I realize two of the words have three syllables but if you put your finger on the words and sound them out slowly, you might get it. Can you actually debate anything, or is your purpose here just to take cheap shots at anyone who disagrees with you? Sigh ,,,men. I said what I had to say without trying to impress anyone. My original comment was apparent to anyone functional literacy .;..he did not understand the ramifications of the proposal. You and rush understood that, you just took the opportunity for your version of a cheap shot. Ironically, of the three of us, I was the only one addressing the issue ...unless, of course, you determined the issue was running to moderators like a snitching little sister. *MY* version of a cheap shot? That's hilarious, after you insult him and then me.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #37 January 13, 2008 Quote>And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself . Your one warning. My apologies. I honestly had no idea he could not dress and feed himself. Now I feel really bad.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #38 January 13, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Full access to our lives isn't the proposal. And yet, you manage to dress and feed yourself ...amazing. Nice PA... My bad. Let me translate that into something you might understand. Perhaps I should have said, 'You do not understand what is happening'. I realize two of the words have three syllables but if you put your finger on the words and sound them out slowly, you might get it. Can you actually debate anything, or is your purpose here just to take cheap shots at anyone who disagrees with you? Sigh ,,,men. I said what I had to say without trying to impress anyone. My original comment was apparent to anyone functional literacy .;..he did not understand the ramifications of the proposal. You and rush understood that, you just took the opportunity for your version of a cheap shot. Ironically, of the three of us, I was the only one addressing the issue ...unless, of course, you determined the issue was running to moderators like a snitching little sister. *MY* version of a cheap shot? That's hilarious, after you insult him and then me. MOMMY!!!!!! Jen's making insightful allegorical comments that I don't like ...and can't understand!!! WAAAHHHHH!----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #39 January 13, 2008 QuotePerhaps I should have said, 'You do not understand what is happening'. My original comment was apparent to anyone functional literacy ..he (Don [pirana]) did not understand the ramifications of the proposal. I thought Don [prirana] presented some sophisticated and nuanced contextual aspects to the arguments, which is not to imply that I either agree or disagree with them - but they did make me think. Do you have some counter-examples or arguments because I am interested in hearing them. What do you see that he & I are missing that has yet to be brought into the discussion? Last fall, I was working with some folks down at the Port of Savannah where another part of Real ID is being implemented for access to the port (the 3rd largest in the US by volume, if I recall correctly). There are real issues of economic impact there for many reasons, including concerns that the screening process will eliminate large numbers of drivers and port workers who have past felony convictions. Thanks. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #40 January 13, 2008 QuoteQuotePerhaps I should have said, 'You do not understand what is happening'. My original comment was apparent to anyone functional literacy ..he (Don [pirana]) did not understand the ramifications of the proposal. I thought Don [prirana] presented some sophisticated and nuanced contextual aspects to the arguments, which is not to imply that I either agree or disagree with them - but they did make me think. Do you have some counter-examples or arguments because I am interested in hearing them. What do you see that he & I are missing that has yet to be brought into the discussion? Last fall, I was working with some folks down at the Port of Savannah where another part of Real ID is being implemented for access to the port (the 3rd largest in the US by volume, if I recall correctly). There are real issues of economic impact there for many reasons, including concerns that the screening process will eliminate large numbers of drivers and port workers who have past felony convictions. Thanks. VR/Marg If you or anyone want to post "sophisticated and nuanced contextual aspects to the argument" more power to them. It presents the poster as an intelligent and thoughtful individual and adds weight to their point of view ...pretty much the same way one dresses in their best clothes, enters the church, dabs in the holy water, genuflects, sits, stands and does all the ritualistic responses adds status. Dressing in clean, neat jeans and plain shirt and just saying, "I love God" without the rituals will not be viewed as ...proper. My response was to one comment prirana made, "Full access to our lives isn't the proposal". I believed that to be overly naive and simplistic. Two, flag waving conservatives took exception and used the absence of ritualistic responses to go running to momma basically screaming "SHE IS WEARING PLAIN CLOTHES! SHE DIDN'T USE THE HOLY WATER OR GENUFLECT! ''Momma' bought it and gave me "one warning" ...for breaking no rules. The ability to separate content from ritualistic response is rather important, don't you think?----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #41 January 14, 2008 JESES FUCKING CHRIST quit using so many 20 dollar words.. the poor flag waving conservatives will get all puffy and huffy and start reminiscing about how theNEA and the liberal education system screwed them over.. and will think you are calling them names..... you horrible liberal elistist you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #42 January 14, 2008 Quote JESES FUCKING CHRIST quit using so many 20 dollar words.. the poor flag waving conservatives will get all puffy and huffy and start reminiscing about how theNEA and the liberal education system screwed them over.. and will think you are calling them names..... you horrible liberal elistist youYeah - I think we need a new "Pussification of America" thread. It seems the neocons have their own issues that need to be discussed. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #43 January 14, 2008 QuoteMOMMY!!!!!! Jen's making insightful allegorical comments that I don't like ...and can't understand!!! WAAAHHHHH! I see... still nothing to add but your usual insults. What, are you Amazon's sock puppet or something?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #44 January 14, 2008 >What, are you Amazon's sock puppet or something? Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #45 January 14, 2008 Quote If they can make a REAL ID, crooks and terrorists can fake one. This is just fucking stupid. Improve physical security where it needs to be and this shit can be forgotten. Note to terrorists: Recruit a few 50 year olds to carry your bombs and you are fine. I mean seriously - how stupid ARE these fucking people??? On the face of it, I have to agree with you on this one. Even with Real ID in place, I believe that it will do nothing to prevent people from defrauding the system. Sharing information seems nice, but sharing it means exposing it. That makes it less secure.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #46 January 15, 2008 Kinda funny. More than anything I didn't get how the dress-and-feed statement fit in at all. I suppose if a person thought I didn't understand or couldn't see the implications, they might think I was a real dufus. I do understand them, and am willing to tolerate them with the caveat that proper use of authority be enforced. Subject to abuse, certainly. But that doesn't stop us from keeping police on the streets, approving wiretaps, and in general funding and allowing all kinds of police actions - all of which get abused from time to time. As far as privacy, unless you live in a cave it is an illusion. People enjoy the illusion of privacy only because nobody is interested in them; or because they are not aware people are looking. People have different levels of tolerance for police activity. Mine is pretty high, and like I said, only is a go if the diligence in monitoring for abuse is also pretty high. I guess that puts me in the nothing-to-hide category. I'm comfortable there since my worst transgressions are a petty misdemeanor in most places. Now that I've endured my first PA, I feel like a real veteran. Do I get a number? As an aside, at a bonfire in my first year of jumping, we were burning couches, and of course sitting on them as long as could be tolerated. I was jokingly told I would get a Couch Number. Couple weeks later I asked about it "What's my number?" It was nice to provide everyone with such a hearty laugh, but I was serious - and am still waiting." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #47 January 16, 2008 Quote He could also be stopped from illegally/fraudulently?voting. Wonder who he would try to vote for. Another good point. Actually it IS the better solution. Just give all terrorists, illegal immigrants and con artists a special driving license, which would say "terrorist", "illegal immigrant" or "con artists". Would make security much simpler. I wonder why nobody in DHS came with such brilliant idea.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
