Skyrad 0 #126 January 21, 2008 QuoteGo ahead and try - we could make England our 51st state. Too late! QuoteThat's the flag run up the pole by a band of Texans when Santa Anna tried to confiscate their municipal cannon, in his quest to run Americans off their land Anyway, just because Santa couldn't take your flag down doesn't mean our plan won't work John, we're not relying on a fat chap in a red suit, let alone his wife.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #127 January 21, 2008 Quote The interdependence is too great Its declining eveyday as Europe and the rest of the world look to other markets to distance itself from the begining of the mudslide that will see the US in recession before to long. There was a time when if the US went into recession it was a guarentee that the UK and the rest of the world would, currently thats down to a 70% chance and declining.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #128 January 21, 2008 Quote ... How is it that the US has such more power from its nuclear arsenal, when there are numerous other countries with nukes, or easily capable (Germany, Japan). The argument falls apart. Ahem, we do not have. We are not allowed to. NPT Japan does not have. NPT dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #129 January 21, 2008 Quote Ahem, we do not have. We are not allowed to. NPT Japan does not have. NPT MMMM Right... its not like Germany and Japan have ALWAYS stuck to treaties in the past Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #130 January 21, 2008 Quote Quote Ahem, we do not have. We are not allowed to. NPT Japan does not have. NPT MMMM Right... its not like Germany and Japan have ALWAYS stuck to treaties in the past We have to. We're under control (Ask your president) Japan (even beeing the only country which suffered from atomic bomb attacks) voluntarily ceded any nuke ideas. Show me a country which ALWAYS stuck to treaties in any past ..... start with your own. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #131 January 21, 2008 QuoteShow me a country which ALWAYS stuck to treaties in any past ..... start with your own. We used to do a lot beter job of it than under the Incompetent in Charge that we have now... we will geet back there... I would like to send ALL of the clowns in this administration off to Europe.. just as soon as possible... They need a full accounting of their actions.... in the World Court. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #132 January 21, 2008 Quote Skyrad you really ought to get a life instead of sitting around dreaming up silly horseshit like this. Actually I've got a great life, I've just returned from Denmark the last three weeks have seen me in Ireland, Denmark, Sweden and England next week I'm flying out to South Africa for the month. I live with a stunning woman and we're madly in love, have a job that pays three times the national average and am picking up my new BMW tommorow...Its great being me Quote Sounds to me like what you are really pissed off about is that you bozos are sitting around in your crime ridden country, As previously mentioned...incorrect. Quote jealous of the fact that you can't even defend yourselves from the armed criminals in your midst, while your snooty damn culture is collapsing under the burden of socialized government and the eminent takeover of your country by the european muslim community. Yes we have a socialist government, and one day so will you. As for Islam, its the worlds fastest growing religion so you'd do well to get used to it old boy. Quote As far as your supposed economic might, remember that the whole of the British Isle would not make up a corner of Texas, with a similarly small population, so beat your puny impotent chest all you want. There is your opinion and then there is REALITY... The United Kingdom has the sixth largest economy in the world in terms of market exchange rates and the seventh largest by purchasing power parity. It has the second largest economy in Europe after Germany. The Uk has a bigger economy by GDP than Canada, Mexico, Taiwan and Russia. Texas has a population of approximatly 23.5 million, the UK now stands at approximatly 65 Million. Clearly your presumptions are incorrect.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #133 January 21, 2008 QuoteI think is time to deport all those pakis home!. Racism becomes you.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #134 January 21, 2008 Quote True, we were late with Bosnia, and maybe bombed the Chinese Embassy accidently on purpose, LMFAOWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #135 January 21, 2008 taking the John Cabot tour of the world in search of long lost colonies then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #136 January 21, 2008 Actually Britan is a former colony of Danes and Swedes (AKA the Vikings)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #137 January 21, 2008 Quote ... Most don't realize that Europe is really not really loved or embraced as a whole, by the rest of the world... You must really yes really do not know enough about Europe to come up with such an idi*tic statement - Europe as a whole is clearly accepted. Don't forget, it's young .. If you do not do the same: Who cares? Perhaps, in not too near future, news about "Europe" will reach Middle resp. South America, too? Quote I think is time to deport all those pakis home!. Jesus. Somewhere are limits, don't ya know? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #138 January 21, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Just because we let the Empire go thats no reason not to improve ones English old bean. So, if you resort to call me beaner, it is ok for me to call you pak? Old chap, I have no idea what a beaner is. I hardly doubt that though. Dear boy, not having grown up in a Caracas shanty slum nor a trailer park I am hardly likely to be conversant in slum slang now am I. Dear Paki, not having grown up in a paikstan shanti town, or suffered loss of a relative wearing a suicide vest while burning an US Flag and mistreating all the women in your life, I can understand your blind ignorance of facts regarding the US."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #139 January 21, 2008 Quote Quote I think is time to deport all those pakis home!. Racism becomes you. So now you are crying after implying that I was born and raised in a Caracas Slum and speaking slang? Man, please grow a pair would you! Go find something else to do besides riding on your ill conceived high horse."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #140 January 21, 2008 > Seems to be a contagious disease around here... Jolly good job that some of us have been inoculated (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #141 January 21, 2008 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... Most don't realize that Europe is really not really loved or embraced as a whole, by the rest of the world... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You must really yes really do not know enough about Europe to come up with such an idi*tic statement - Europe as a whole is clearly accepted. True. It's the Europeans hating each other that is more prevalent. QuoteDon't forget, it's young .. Huh? I always thought that Europe was just as old as anyplace else. Are you saying that the countries of Europe have only recently gotten their shit together? ANd about the "Paki" comments. We don't have Pakis really to worry about in the US. The "Paki"issue is a complaint we hear from Europeans. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #142 January 21, 2008 QuoteQuote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... Most don't realize that Europe is really not really loved or embraced as a whole, by the rest of the world... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You must really yes really do not know enough about Europe to come up with such an idi*tic statement - Europe as a whole is clearly accepted. True. It's the Europeans hating each other that is more prevalent. QuoteDon't forget, it's young .. Huh? I always thought that Europe was just as old as anyplace else. Are you saying that the countries of Europe have only recently gotten their shit together? ANd about the "Paki" comments. We don't have Pakis really to worry about in the US. The "Paki"issue is a complaint we hear from Europeans. I know it is more of an UK issue"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #143 January 21, 2008 QuoteQuote The interdependence is too great Its declining eveyday as Europe and the rest of the world look to other markets to distance itself from the begining of the mudslide that will see the US in recession before to long. There was a time when if the US went into recession it was a guarentee that the UK and the rest of the world would, currently thats down to a 70% chance and declining. The plunging stock indexes around the world today show that the dependence on the US is still rather high. I believe it was -5.5% for the UK today. I find this rather unfortunate - foreign stocks were supposed to be independent and therefore a good vehicle for diversification, but it seems more tightly in sync than ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #144 January 21, 2008 >you really ought to get a life . . . Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #145 January 21, 2008 Quote Quote ... How is it that the US has such more power from its nuclear arsenal, when there are numerous other countries with nukes, or easily capable (Germany, Japan). The argument falls apart. Ahem, we do not have. We are not allowed to. NPT Japan does not have. NPT Japan can continue to declare their opposition to ever having nukes, but there's no doubt that if needed, they could have them in a very short timeframe. That's a comforting fact that Iran doesn't have. And this is rather besides the point I was making - the US doesn't have its superpower status by virtue of its nuclear arsenal. Otherwise, you'd have the UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, and Israel on equal footing (not ready to count North Korea). But that's not the reality. The underlying economic strengths of the countries are still much more relevant. Nukes are defensive. Money is the offensive weapon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #146 January 21, 2008 <> umm... I'd suggest that, that is only true if you never use them. To use them is very, very offensive. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #147 January 21, 2008 Quite surprising that I should explain to you what "Europe", the "young" Europe means. Your reply regarding "Paki(s)" is lowest level for a lawyer, meaningless bubbles. In fact, means nothing. I know what I'm talking about, my husband is a lawyer, too. Lawyers are not the same all over the world, it seems. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #148 January 22, 2008 Quote<> umm... I'd suggest that, that is only true if you never use them. You can't use them - its all about MAD. This remains true even after the end of the cold war. The world will not tolerate their use, and the owners fear the unpredictable outcome if they were to do so anyway. Their purpose now is to dissuade attack - hurt me and I'll fuck you up for good. And it's worked pretty damn well. Compare deaths from 1946-present versus the 62 years prior. To repeat for the third time - the US does not derive its power from its nuclear arsenal. If someone wants to argue the point in the opposite, I'm interested to hear it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #149 January 22, 2008 >the US does not derive its power from its nuclear arsenal. The US derives most of its deterrence power (deterrence from foreign invasion) from its nuclear arsenal. It does not derive its offensive power from nuclear weapons. In other words, our nukes are our best DEFENSIVE weapons, but do not help us in conventional invasions and occupations. It is unfortunate that lately we are all offense and no defense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #150 January 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteYou forget that the USA is the worlds largest consumer of goods, therefore if we take away all of the rest of the worlds customer base, who is going to buy all your goods? Next step is we discontinue all agriculture assistance including all foodstuffs shipped to any country, say helle to mass starvation unlike any the word has ever seen. BTW how does the thought of a few well trained air crews flying raptors and B2B's perfoming strikes on your leaders sound? BTW I realize you are only posting this for sake of discussion. OH and all those meds we ship?, say hello to no more of that, sure there are pharmacological industries abroad, but they won't work too well when they are leveled to the ground. Shipping via the oceans?, you will be making new coral reefs and fish attractors with your ships, they will be resting firmly on the bottom. How very uncivil. I did state that those would possibly be the REACTION to the entire world ganging up on us in order to render us defenseless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
