Richards 0 #1 January 27, 2008 http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/01/25/theft-video.html?ref=rss Basically the security cameras in his store caught a theif take electronic equipment of the shelf and walk out of the store with it. Since he knew that the police would put minimal effort into finding the guy (no revenue in that) he posted the security vidoe on youtube.com asking for info on the suspect and has already received some calls. The question being raised is whether or not he had the right to post the video without the theifs consent (wtf?). It seems fair to me. The guy knew there were cameras there so there is no violation of privacy. Personally I admire the store owner for showing the initiative to try this. The theif has no cause to whine about his "rights" on this one. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #2 January 27, 2008 has the thief come forward and complained about his rights? i would think this issue would be settled since we see videos of criminals all the time. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 January 27, 2008 What rights? Privacy? I think he gave those up (related specifically to this theft) when he walked out of the store commiting a crime."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #4 January 27, 2008 Absolutely he has the right to publish the video. Hope that it secures a conviction for the thrief, too. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 January 27, 2008 Quotehas the thief come forward and complained about his rights? i would think this issue would be settled since we see videos of criminals all the time. I can remember when this same issue came up when COPS was videoing. I never heard specifically of any outcome but they are still making shows."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #6 January 27, 2008 Quote Quote has the thief come forward and complained about his rights? i would think this issue would be settled since we see videos of criminals all the time. The cops should announce that if he turns himself in for arrest they will make the owner apologise before they put the theif in jail? My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #7 January 27, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat rights? Privacy? I think he gave those up (related specifically to this theft) when he walked out of the store commiting a crime. That's my take on it. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #8 January 27, 2008 Simple solution, put a sign at the door saying "entry implies consent to video monitoring and any use of such video for prosecution of illegal activity" Much like he signs on military installations saying entry implies consent to alcohol screening.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #9 January 28, 2008 For me a big thing is the expectation of privacy. If I'm in a place where I expect to have some degree of privacy (in a men's room, or the gym locker room, for example) and I was being videotaped then I'd expect to be made aware of it. If I'm in a public place like the mall or walking down the street then I have no expectation of privacy, and I wouldn't expect to see signs warning me that I was on video. THAT BEING SAID, the thief can kiss the store owner's ass, as far as I'm concerned. If you're stupid enough to do the crime you surrender all rights to privacy in regard to the commission of the crime. Elvisio "did that camera see me pick my nose" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #10 January 28, 2008 My take would be he's there as a trespasser - trespassers have very few rights to infringe Secondly, he's in a place to which the public has general access. As such he has no expectation of privacy. Same reason that if I walk across the background of some news caster's piece to camera outside a mall, I can't stop them showing it on the evening news - I was in a public place, so I had no expectation of privacy. Jurisdictions differ however. I say, let him come forward and complain. Then we'll see who the judge get's pissed at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #11 January 28, 2008 Kudos to the store owner for posting the video online. I've caught so many bad guys on camera around my house and car that I can't remember them all. In 2002 after several vandalisms, I caught a 17-year old rich kid vandalizing my home while under construction. After his influential father got him off the hook, I did an interview with Home Automation magazine and they agreed to post a screen grab from the vandalism in their magazine along with a story about my smart home. So the rich kid got his mug in a national magazine. Last year, I caught a guy on video trying to break into my car. He also smashed windows and stole a lot of money from other vehicles in the neighborhood. Video was turned over to police, aired on local TV stations, and the guy was eventually caught. If you mess with my house or car and I catch you on video, YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS. I'll gladly put your face out there for everyone to see.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #12 January 29, 2008 No it is not. But, in a separate comment, that "professor", Eb Brown, sounds much like our own Kallend.... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #13 January 29, 2008 I love it how the comments on the YouTube thread all went to shit. The internet is great. Thanks for reading my words. Now here's the truffle shuffle."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites