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Store owner puts video of theft on youtube.com. Violation of privacy?

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http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/01/25/theft-video.html?ref=rss

Basically the security cameras in his store caught a theif take electronic equipment of the shelf and walk out of the store with it. Since he knew that the police would put minimal effort into finding the guy (no revenue in that) he posted the security vidoe on youtube.com asking for info on the suspect and has already received some calls.

The question being raised is whether or not he had the right to post the video without the theifs consent (wtf?). It seems fair to me. The guy knew there were cameras there so there is no violation of privacy. Personally I admire the store owner for showing the initiative to try this. The theif has no cause to whine about his "rights" on this one.
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What rights? Privacy? I think he gave those up (related specifically to this theft) when he walked out of the store commiting a crime.
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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has the thief come forward and complained about his rights? i would think this issue would be settled since we see videos of criminals all the time.



I can remember when this same issue came up when COPS was videoing. I never heard specifically of any outcome but they are still making shows.
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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has the thief come forward and complained about his rights? i would think this issue would be settled since we see videos of criminals all the time.



The cops should announce that if he turns himself in for arrest they will make the owner apologise before they put the theif in jail?:D
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What rights? Privacy? I think he gave those up (related specifically to this theft) when he walked out of the store commiting a crime.



That's my take on it.
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Simple solution, put a sign at the door saying "entry implies consent to video monitoring and any use of such video for prosecution of illegal activity"

Much like he signs on military installations saying entry implies consent to alcohol screening.
History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

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For me a big thing is the expectation of privacy. If I'm in a place where I expect to have some degree of privacy (in a men's room, or the gym locker room, for example) and I was being videotaped then I'd expect to be made aware of it.

If I'm in a public place like the mall or walking down the street then I have no expectation of privacy, and I wouldn't expect to see signs warning me that I was on video.

THAT BEING SAID, the thief can kiss the store owner's ass, as far as I'm concerned. If you're stupid enough to do the crime you surrender all rights to privacy in regard to the commission of the crime.

Elvisio "did that camera see me pick my nose" Rodriguez

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My take would be he's there as a trespasser - trespassers have very few rights to infringe

Secondly, he's in a place to which the public has general access. As such he has no expectation of privacy. Same reason that if I walk across the background of some news caster's piece to camera outside a mall, I can't stop them showing it on the evening news - I was in a public place, so I had no expectation of privacy.

Jurisdictions differ however. I say, let him come forward and complain. Then we'll see who the judge get's pissed at.

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Kudos to the store owner for posting the video online. I've caught so many bad guys on camera around my house and car that I can't remember them all. In 2002 after several vandalisms, I caught a 17-year old rich kid vandalizing my home while under construction. After his influential father got him off the hook, I did an interview with Home Automation magazine and they agreed to post a screen grab from the vandalism in their magazine along with a story about my smart home. So the rich kid got his mug in a national magazine.

Last year, I caught a guy on video trying to break into my car. He also smashed windows and stole a lot of money from other vehicles in the neighborhood. Video was turned over to police, aired on local TV stations, and the guy was eventually caught.

If you mess with my house or car and I catch you on video, YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS. I'll gladly put your face out there for everyone to see....

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