the latest racist comments about Obama

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A month hasn't gone by without it.

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This is part of the Clinton strategy of "We're not racists, but, have we told you that he's black today?"
How transparent is her campaign getting?
How ugly will it get?

In poker, this is yelling, "I'm so far behind, I'm all in."

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Barack Obama's White House campaign lashed out in fury Tuesday after a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter attributed his stunning march through US politics to his race.

Obama aide Susan Rice called for Clinton to fire Geraldine Ferraro, the only woman yet to run on a major party's presidential ticket, after her comments Friday to a Los Angeles newspaper.

"That's a really outrageous and offensive comment," Rice said on MSNBC television after Ferraro, who sits on Clinton's finance committee, had said: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position."

Is she referring to the Harvard-educated opponent?

Would any of the Clinton supporters here like to say that they are ashamed of Ferraro's racist remarks?
(Oh wait, only REPs are racist. )

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"It is the sort of comment that we have heard repeatedly, I'm afraid, from some of the Clinton surrogates," said Rice, Obama's leading adviser on foreign policy.

They already ran a round of these attacks in S Carolina using Bill Clinton and it got such a reaction that they put a muzzle on BC. You don't hear a lot of remarks from him these days. news

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But he also held back on the kind of attacks on Obama that got the former first lady's campaign in deep trouble in January.

...The comment was made out by some to be a broader, even racially tinged smear on African-American Obama's presidential ambitions.

A few weeks later, Bill Clinton added to that soup when he compared Obama's broad-based presidential effort to that of black leader Jesse Jackson in 1992, which was mainly driven by support from black voters.

The charge that the Clinton's were "race-baiting" -- stirring up racial enmity -- perhaps helped Obama to victory in the South Carolina primary which propelled him into the lead in the race.

After that Bill's contribution to the campaign appeared to be ratcheted back, and his direct attacks on Obama disappeared.

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"I think if Senator Clinton is serious about putting an end to statements that have racial implications, that diminish Barack Obama because he's an African-American man, then she ought to really repudiate this comment and make it clear that there's no place in her campaign for people who will say this kind of thing," Rice said.

Fat chance.

This month's stupidest comment...

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In an interview Friday with the Daily Breeze newspaper, she was quoted as saying that Obama's success revealed the "very sexist" attitudes of the media.

Good thing that there is no racists in this country.

Even though Hillary hasn't directly made racist slurs, a lot of people in her campaign have made racial remarks. How many times does this happen?

Nobody needs to forget about the false, "Hey, he's really a Muslim" ads, that cause two of her staffer their jobs. Never knew anything about it? Sure.

I'm waiting for the "I'm not a racist, but everyone in my campaign is..." explanation. Sounds kinda odd.

I hear that David Duke is calling for her to come out of the closet and bring her sheets with her.

[ryoder 1,590]

I never had an opinion of Hillary until the past few weeks.
She is displaying all the characteristics of a desperate bitch.

My predictions:

- Obama gets the nomination, and wins the election.

- If Hillary somehow wins the nomination, McCain wins the election.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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I never had an opinion of Hillary until the past few weeks.
She is displaying all the characteristics of a desperate bitch.

My predictions:

- Obama gets the nomination, and wins the election.

- If Hillary somehow wins the nomination, McCain wins the election.

I agree.

McCain is just getting too old, but Hillary will ignite a firestorm of support. The "common enemy".

I don't see a lot of differences between Obama and the REP voting record. He would be a better REP than McCain.

He seems to provide intelligent, well- considered answers instead of blurting out antagonistic sound bites and blather like HC.

[rehmwa 2]

I'm a bit worried. My liberal guilt has me trapped.

If I vote for McCain - I'll be racist or sexist
If I vote for Hillary/Obama - I'll be ageist

I'm pretty well stuck.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[tkhayes 348]

Here's another scenario -

Obama wins the nomination and sometime before he gets to an election - some redneck right-wing fuck puts a bullet in him.

A likely scenario, sadly, even in this day and age.

TK

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I'm a bit worried. My liberal guilt has me trapped.

If I vote for McCain - I'll be racist or sexist
If I vote for Hillary/Obama - I'll be ageist

I'm pretty well stuck.

Reagan once said that he was so successful at passing legislation because he only got his way 80% of the time.

He was a compromiser and worked with people across the aisle. I don't see McCain doing that. More partisan screaming.

Obama has been accused of crossing party lines to vote for legislation that he liked. That seems like the optimal plan.

HC is just the engineer on a train wreck going somewhere to happen.

Her latest chapter of resurrecting Ferraro is just another example of supremely antagonistic games playing.
If she is elected, political parties will truly loathe each other.

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Here's another scenario -

Obama wins the nomination and sometime before he gets to an election - some redneck right-wing fuck puts a bullet in him.

A likely scenario, sadly, even in this day and age.

TK

I'll bet nobody considered that.

If you go into politics, you certainly have to understand that. Certainly, enough white politicians have been murdered.

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I just realized the timing of Ferraro's comments.
The Mississippi primary.

I think we need to re-think the demographics of racism. Ferraro isn't some ignorant farm worker.
She's not a Southern redneck. She's using racism as an opinion and a political tool.

BC make comments during the S Carolina campaign. Now they are courting the racist vote in Miss?

If the black vote is going for Obama, it may not be because of Obama.

[BillyVance 34]

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Here's another scenario -

Obama wins the nomination and sometime before he gets to an election - some redneck right-wing fuck puts a bullet in him.

A likely scenario, sadly, even in this day and age.

TK

I'll bet nobody considered that.

If you go into politics, you certainly have to understand that. Certainly, enough white politicians have been murdered.

I believe Obama already has had a secret service detail assigned to him since at least last summer. But of course, you're never going to stop every assassination attempt even in this day and age.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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I believe Obama already has had a secret service detail assigned to him since at least last summer. But of course, you're never going to stop every assassination attempt even in this day and age.

That's the challenge for the large "husband" detachment of the Secret Service protection for Bill Clinton.
They're dealing with volume.

[kelpdiver 2]

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"That's a really outrageous and offensive comment," Rice said on MSNBC television after Ferraro, who sits on Clinton's finance committee, had said: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position

So both Democratic candidates must be the thinnest skinned alive, or perhaps each just protests too much.

Obama fires an aide for calling Clinton a monster. Why? Are we in third grade, for fuck sake?

Ferraro's remarks - probably true. I don't doubt there is motive and a little desparation, but reality is that 90% of black Americans aren't voting for a sub one term white Senator who can speak well. That is probably enough to drop white Obama behind Clinton, unless he gains back enough of the racist Latino vote. We should stop acting like talking about race is taboo. It's real. I'm very interested to see at the end if the claim that race is irrelevent to those under 30 is true. It may speak to the near future.

That all said, I think Obama is very lucky in that he beat out all the other candidates in the race for ABC (Anyone but Clinton, please). That factor is larger than any boost race might provide.

[lawrocket 3]

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Here's another scenario -

Obama wins the nomination and sometime before he gets to an election - some redneck right-wing fuck puts a bullet in him.

A likely scenario, sadly, even in this day and age.

TK

I don't see racist attacks coming from the right? They are coming from the pillars of the left-wing establishment.

I had often thought that Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice would be the worst nightmare of the left - black candidates who can win and come from the right-wing.

The Democratic party is on the verge of eating itself alive right now. Which is a mor elikely scenario - an assassination by the right? Or an assassination by the left - perhaps to BLAME the right?

I've got my own ideas. Obama is fucking up the established good old boys but GOOD.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Gawain 0]

This is why I don't understand why democratic voters have any faith in their party, when their party does not have faith in them.

When Mondale won the nomination for the 1984 election, the party heads weren't all that happy. They were miffed that Gary Hart got quashed.

President Reagan demolished him, by 20 points in the popular vote, and 98% in the electoral college.

The democratic party then restructured itself with "Super Delegates". These delegates do not have to follow the popular primary or caucus results, and there are enough of them to offset any popular pledged delegate distribution.

Senator Clinton will likely win the nomination if the party continues down the line of "she's winning the states with the most electoral votes" line, solely because of the "Super Delegates".

Even though everyone is so enamored with Sen. Obama, the party is not sold on him yet.

The Clintons remolded the party. They aren't leaving the picture until the fat lady sings, which is on November 4, 2008.

So, I ask the question, why would someone back a party that does not trust its own constituents?

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[kallend 2,027]

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Here's another scenario -

Obama wins the nomination and sometime before he gets to an election - some redneck right-wing fuck puts a bullet in him.

A likely scenario, sadly, even in this day and age.

TK

I don't see racist attacks coming from the right? They are coming from the pillars of the left-wing establishment.

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Of course you don't - because you are predisposed not to. Two words: Bill Cunningham. or don;t you consider him "right"?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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So, I ask the question, why would someone back a party that does not trust its own constituents?

Because the other party gave them Shrub, Qualye, and Chaney as 3 of their last 4 men. I think you can defend Bush Sr. and Reagan, but these 3 were mediocre by any definition.

[lawrocket 3]

What you write is true.

Where are we seeing the great race and gender divide? Where are we seeing the outright pimping of group identity?

Hey - I'll say it. I respect Obama because he is not campaigning as a black man. He is a candidate who happens to be black.

But CLinton is campaiging as a woman. The strong woman. She was named after Sir Edward Hillary, and "I am Woman HearMe Roar" was written about her (Al Gore had Love Story).

Clinton is pimping it. Obama, however, doesn't have to. What we are seeing is the following:
1) Older whites voting for Hillary
2) Younger whites (men and women) voting for Obama.
3) Black voting for Obama
4) Latinos voting AGAINST Obama (from where I grew up, this was the big battle. Latinos and blacks HATED each other).

This is a GENERATIONAL divide. The 60's liberals are now out of touch. They fought the righteous battles 30, 40 , 50 years ago.

They do not realize, and cannot admit, that they won. IT strips them of their raison d'etre.

Obama understands that it is about ideas. The older crowd is stuck on race and sex. Those ideas are old and outdated.

We of the younger generation know it.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Lindsey 0]

I don't see racist attacks coming from the right?

You should come hang out with the rednecks then. You'll not be able to avoid seeing it.

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

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Ferraro's remarks - probably true. I don't doubt there is motive and a little desparation***

Reality, it is all desperation.

Ferraro was playing the race card in Miss.
Ferraro said, "If he was a white man...". What, then she would be saying it was sexist, instead of racist?

Guess what? McCain is a white man. HC has already played the "good ole boys are picking on me" sexism card. Is that her next strategy against the REPs? Excuse making?

The female Obama campaigner said that "HC is a monster who would do anything to win". There is no racism or sexism there. It sounds absolutely true.

Also, it was supposed to be "off the record". Ferraro made a racist remark for publication.

Obama let go the staffer. Think HC will repudiate the Ferraro remark?

White, black, women, men, redfish, bluefish...
Americans are voting against HC because of HC.

***We should stop acting like talking about race is taboo.

There's no talking about race. Just Ferraro positioning racist comments in Miss before an election.

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That all said, I think Obama is very lucky in that he beat out all the other candidates in the race for ABC (Anyone but Clinton, please). That factor is larger than any boost race might provide.

It make work out well for Americans in general.

[kallend 2,027]

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This is a GENERATIONAL divide. The 60's liberals are now out of touch. They fought the righteous battles 30, 40 , 50 years ago.

They do not realize, and cannot admit, that they won.
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We did? You only have to read Speakers Corner any day of the week to know that is untrue. The bigots just don't wear white sheets any more.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Here's another scenario -

Obama wins the nomination and sometime before he gets to an election - some redneck right-wing fuck puts a bullet in him.

A likely scenario, sadly, even in this day and age.

TK

I don't see racist attacks coming from the right? They are coming from the pillars of the left-wing establishment.

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Of course you don't - because you are predisposed not to. Two words: Bill Cunningham. or don;t you consider him "right"?

Bill Cunningham has used Sen. Obama's middle name...I don't recall any rage about him making racist remarks.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[lawrocket 3]

Oh, he is just to the right of the John Birch soceity?

Talmadge Hayer? Or do you consider him right? Remember - he killed Malcolm X. A lefty black spearatist.

James Earl Ray - Unknown to me, but is alleged to be a patsy.

Lee harvey Oswald - committed communist.

James Bess - attempted assassin of Khalid Abdul Muhammed. A Nation of Islam guy.

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So, let's see now about the killings??? Who are our American assassins?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[happythoughts 0]

The things that stand out are...

The racist attitude of "all those black folks think/vote alike" by BC in S Carolina and Ferraro in Miss to play the race card and remind voters that he is black.

That DEMs have not repudiated the comments, but quietly accept them after hoping for the desired effect, gaining the racist vote.

The acceptance on SC by the DEMs as not being an attempt to use racist attitudes to win.

Sure, all the racists don't wear hoods now.
It is the $700 silk suits of the DEM party leaders.

[lawrocket 3]

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I don't see racist attacks coming from the right?

You should come hang out with the rednecks then. You'll not be able to avoid seeing it.

I apologize. From established politicians with a national voice and support of millions of people.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[lawrocket 3]

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This is a GENERATIONAL divide. The 60's liberals are now out of touch. They fought the righteous battles 30, 40 , 50 years ago.

They do not realize, and cannot admit, that they won.
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We did? You only have to read Speakers Corner any day of the week to know that is untrue. The bigots just don't wear white sheets any more.

No, they don't. They call Clarence Thomas a lapdog. They call those of color who disagree with them "oreo's." They brutally assault the leading black political figure in the US.

Perhaps IF Obama wins the nomination (which is far from certain, despite the wishes of the democratic populace) then we will see racist attacks coming from the right.

But - in my experience - the right has at its extreme hardcore racism. the left has in its middle ground softcore racism of the type exemplified by the HC campaign. No black man is gonna win this nomination. Boy, you can be my veep.

Let us assume David Duke said, "If Obama was a white man he would not be in this position."

What would be said then? I think we all know.

The motives are the same, professor. It's easy for a person to say, "I'm mister clean and I will fight against all forms of immorality and corruption." It's a good front that can be shattered.

I'm just saying that it is ALSO easy to say, "You minorities out there can't get ahead. Let me take care of you." THAT, sir, is racist.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Royd 0]

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Would any of the Clinton supporters here like to say that they are ashamed of Ferraro's racist remarks?
(Oh wait, only REPs are racist. )

Wouldn't this be a good time for Obama to say he's really just an angry white man and nail down that demographic?

[Royd 0]

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Here's another scenario -

Obama wins the nomination and sometime before he gets to an election - some redneck right-wing fuck puts a bullet in him.

A likely scenario, sadly, even in this day and age.

And if it turns into an Obama/Clinton ticket instead of a Clinton/Obama ticket, the same thing will happen.