Protesters Plan to Put Military Recruiters In Cages!

[kelpdiver 2]

What's to change? So one of them said even they won't do what they say they will do?

BTW, your news snip mentions Pittsburg U, but the location written on the 3rd post listed an address at Cergenie Mellon. They seem like a bunch of fuckups.

[jakee 1,489]

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What's to change? So one of them said even they won't do what they say they will do?

No, they stated beforehand that their earlier decleration of intent was purely symbolic and we still got three pages of being saying they should either get the shit kicked out of them or be shot.

Besides, what if they had more closely followed their earlier decleration - your own post said that if any of them simply walked towards a recruiter with a cage you'd be happy if they were shot. Now, I don't know about you, but I have a high enough opinion of my country's servicemen and their training that I think they could handle such a situation without having to kill anyone.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[warpedskydiver 0]

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Good thing the local cops disagreed with you, eh?

No, good thing the hippies knew better than to do what they claimed they would do.

They turned up with a cage that they said they were going to try and put recruiters in. That's exactly what they said they were going to do.

No they did not RIF

They did not show up at the recruiters office, they showed up at another location entirely.

They were not even the same group of protesters.

Geez you would think people could comprehend a few details

[warpedskydiver 0]

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What's to change? So one of them said even they won't do what they say they will do?

No, they stated beforehand that their earlier decleration of intent was purely symbolic and we still got three pages of being saying they should either get the shit kicked out of them or be shot.

Besides, what if they had more closely followed their earlier decleration - your own post said that if any of them simply walked towards a recruiter with a cage you'd be happy if they were shot. Now, I don't know about you, but I have a high enough opinion of my country's servicemen and their training that I think they could handle such a situation without having to kill anyone.

Read this statement carefully, it is the very same statement you just attempted to quote:

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On Wednesday, March 19, POG will be holding a torch-lit march to a modern day castle of abominations—our local military recruiting station. If the station remains open, we intend to evict it and everything inside of it, occupy the location, and transform it into something useful for the community. We'll also be bringing a movable cage in which to confine military recruiters until they no longer pose a danger to our friends and neighbors.

Please point out where anything you just said is true

I will give you another hint, that was not even the same group of protesters, nor was that information you are attempting to link even from that groups website.

Apparently you categorize any protest group to be the same as the original group that I included in my post.

RIF

Do you intentionally mistate things in an attempt to prove your point?

[jakee 1,489]

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Read this statement carefully, it is the very same statement you just attempted to quote:

No, it isn't.

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nor was that information you are attempting to link even from that groups website.

What information? The stuff that I said was from a news search on Google? Of course it wasn't from their own website

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Apparently you categorize any protest group to be the same as the original group that I included in my post.

Are you people functionally illiterate? "Well, the 19th of March has come and gone and this evil, aggressive hippy plot has caused such a commotion that I can, already, find a whopping total of zero articles about it on a Google news search.

I did find this about a protest at Pittsburgh U though:"

WTF is RIF? (Never mind, apparently it's a small North African mountain range. Not sure what it has to do with this thread though?)

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[warpedskydiver 0]

How does your tail taste?, and does it leave fur in your mouth?

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Do you honestly think that someone being shot dead in a recruiting office for the crime of walking towards a recruiter with a birdcage would not be a PR disaster for the military?

The United States has a little document called Posse Comatatas. This document was devised after the War between the States. I'll break it down so that even you can understand it. It says that the United States Army will not take punitive action against the citizens of the United States. I apologize if I used too many big words. So Its a far cry from shooting some hippies for trying to imprison you. That would not be considered acceptable use of force. You see there is also something called acceptable escalation of force. Meaning if someone attacks you with a toothpick you can not shoot that person. But, possibly punching those toothpick wielding marauders may be a more acceptable solution. Understand

"whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

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The United States has a little document called Posse Comatatas. This document was devised after the War between the States. I'll break it down so that even you can understand it. It says that the United States Army will not take punitive action against the citizens of the United States.

Incorrect - Posse Comitatus, in a nutshell, says that the U.S. Military will not be used in a law enforcement capacity, except for certain situations as expressly directed by Congress.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[jakee 1,489]

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Do you honestly think that someone being shot dead in a recruiting office for the crime of walking towards a recruiter with a birdcage would not be a PR disaster for the military?

The United States has a little document called Posse Comatatas. This document was devised after the War between the States. I'll break it down so that even you can understand it. It says that the United States Army will not take punitive action against the citizens of the United States. I apologize if I used too many big words. So Its a far cry from shooting some hippies for trying to imprison you. That would not be considered acceptable use of force. You see there is also something called acceptable escalation of force. Meaning if someone attacks you with a toothpick you can not shoot that person. But, possibly punching those toothpick wielding marauders may be a more acceptable solution. Understand

Yes. I understand why it would be a bad idea for members of the US military to shoot those demonstrators for walking towards them with a cage, and why they would not do so. That's why I've been so bemused at how many people in this thread have been advocating it as the correct course of action.

If you had read and understood this thread properly, you'd know it was the people I've been arguing against that you want to take to task, not me. I have absolutely no idea how you could have interpreted this thread so backwards. Were you reading it with your eyes closed?

(BTW, your explanation of this facet of US law would be more impressive if you could spell the name of it properly)

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[jakee 1,489]

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How does your tail taste?, and does it leave fur in your mouth?

I'll take that as an admission that you've realised your last post was erroneous nonsense. Really, you must learn to be more gracious in defeat.

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[tbrown 26]

The military does their job and they do it very well. They don't make our foreign policy and are not to blame for the idiots who do. They serve, sometimes at the cost of life & limb and for that we should all be grateful.

At the same time, kids really need to understand that this isn't just a fitness club that pays for college tuition. The job can be nasty and dangerous, but necessary.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[mnealtx 0]

Well said!

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[warpedskydiver 0]

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The military does their job and they do it very well. They don't make our foreign policy and are not to blame for the idiots who do. They serve, sometimes at the cost of life & limb and for that we should all be grateful.

At the same time, kids really need to understand that this isn't just a fitness club that pays for college tuition. The job can be nasty and dangerous, but necessary.

I agree entirely.

Too bad Jakee cannot fathom that attemting to physically assualt, kidnap, or imprison a solider is a really bad idea.

Also he seems to think there is never a reason to use force when it is deemed neccessary.

Something tells me that if he were to be a protester, he just might step over the line and then be suprised at the response he got.

I never said that the protesters should be shot for protesting, but when their actions threaten a servicemember, federal property/military installation/recruiters office, the response will not be pretty.

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The military does their job and they do it very well. They don't make our foreign policy and are not to blame for the idiots who do. They serve, sometimes at the cost of life & limb and for that we should all be grateful.

At the same time, kids really need to understand that this isn't just a fitness club that pays for college tuition. The job can be nasty and dangerous, but necessary.

I agree entirely.

Too bad Jakee cannot fathom that attemting to physically assualt, kidnap, or imprison a solider is a really bad idea.

Also he seems to think there is never a reason to use force when it is deemed neccessary.

Something tells me that if he were to be a protester, he just might step over the line and then be suprised at the response he got.

I never said that the protesters should be shot for protesting, but when their actions threaten a servicemember, federal property/military installation/recruiters office, the response will not be pretty.

He is also NOT a US resident per the profile. That puts the opinions relative to the US as non important

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[n23x 0]

Roger that, Marc.

From now on, your opinions will be considered 'non important' unless they pertain to picking one's nose, coal-related janitorial services, and corn.

I mean, come on! If you're not directly involved in it, you have no room to talk, right?

.jim

"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC

[rushmc 23]

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Roger that, Marc.

From now on, your opinions will be considered 'non important' unless they pertain to picking one's nose, coal-related janitorial services, and corn.

I mean, come on! If you're not directly involved in it, you have no room to talk, right?

.jim

I am an expert in nose picking and coal related janitorial services so, this gives me freedom to reply to suptid posts.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Gawain 0]

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Registrant Organization:Pittsburgh Organizing Group

Strange...their initials are POG, which in the Army means "Person Other than Grunt"...it's not always a compliment when used.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[jakee 1,489]

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Too bad Jakee cannot fathom that attemting to physically assualt, kidnap, or imprison a solider is a really bad idea.

Of course it is, but these people never seriously intended to do it, which your second post in this thread made perfectly clear.

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Also he seems to think there is never a reason to use force when it is deemed neccessary.

If you look back, you will find that I absolutely support neccesary use of force - you took issue with that statement, saying that people should always use maximum available force, ie. shooting someone walking towards you with a birdcage.

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Something tells me that if he were to be a protester, he just might step over the line and then be suprised at the response he got.

Hehe, protestor. I'm having a great private giggle over that one, but I'm not going to tell you why.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[warpedskydiver 0]

Hey maybe you giggle alot.

[jakee 1,489]

It's a wierd world out there. Gotta have a sense of humour.

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