idrankwhat 0 #76 April 3, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote I always vote for the most fiscally conservative candidates. . If you've voted Republican or Democrat any time in the last decade and a half then you're most likely mistaken. Fixed that for you - they're ALL pigs at the trough. Sorry, I thought that was assumed. Thanks for the clarification. However, I will point out that since the changing of the guard the leak has slowed on earmarks.....errrrrr.... "congressionally directed spending". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #77 April 3, 2008 Quote Indeed there is, like there's a difference between killing or maiming someone and helping someone. Killing our enemies is fine with me. Maiming our enemies is immoral. They should be killed. Encouraging dependency on government never helped anyone, except the government.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #78 April 3, 2008 Quote Quote You can call it weaseling or not, my priorities ARE different, but there is a difference in defense spending and entitlement spending. . Indeed there is, like there's a difference between killing or maiming someone and helping someone. We spend just about 1/2 of the entire world's "killing/maiming" budget, in the process we have also produced a killing machine (aka the DoD) that is the world's single largest user of oil. What a magnificent accomplishment. Does saying things louder make them truer? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #79 April 4, 2008 Quote Quote Quote You can call it weaseling or not, my priorities ARE different, but there is a difference in defense spending and entitlement spending. . Indeed there is, like there's a difference between killing or maiming someone and helping someone. We spend just about 1/2 of the entire world's "killing/maiming" budget, in the process we have also produced a killing machine (aka the DoD) that is the world's single largest user of oil. What a magnificent accomplishment. Does saying things louder make them truer? It helps with those who fit the saying "there are none so deaf as those who will not hear".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #80 April 4, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote You can call it weaseling or not, my priorities ARE different, but there is a difference in defense spending and entitlement spending. . Indeed there is, like there's a difference between killing or maiming someone and helping someone. We spend just about 1/2 of the entire world's "killing/maiming" budget, in the process we have also produced a killing machine (aka the DoD) that is the world's single largest user of oil. What a magnificent accomplishment. Does saying things louder make them truer? It helps with those who fit the saying "there are none so deaf as those who will not hear". You didn't seem to have a problem with the military spending more when your son was about to go to Iraq...situational ethics strikes again?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #81 April 4, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote You can call it weaseling or not, my priorities ARE different, but there is a difference in defense spending and entitlement spending. . Indeed there is, like there's a difference between killing or maiming someone and helping someone. We spend just about 1/2 of the entire world's "killing/maiming" budget, in the process we have also produced a killing machine (aka the DoD) that is the world's single largest user of oil. What a magnificent accomplishment. Does saying things louder make them truer? It helps with those who fit the saying "there are none so deaf as those who will not hear". You didn't seem to have a problem with the military spending more when your son was about to go to Iraq...situational ethics strikes again? Wrong again. I expect 1% of the money wasted on Star Wars would have paid for all of the humvee armor. Last time I looked, adequately equipping infantrymen sent to Afghanistan or Iraq doesn't require 50% of the entire world's military expenditures.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #82 April 4, 2008 Sure about that, Professor? QuoteMaybe we could use some of those extra $Millions spent (wasted) on death penalty cases in Texas and Florida to buy armor for the troops. According to the UoF study, each death penalty case in FL costs an ADDITIONAL $2.6M. Buy a lot of armor for $2.6M. Certainly LOOKS like you were saying the military hadn't spent enough on armor to me...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #83 April 4, 2008 QuoteCertainly LOOKS like you were saying the military hadn't spent enough on armor to me... That's what it looks like to me, also. However, that is a WHOLE LOT different from supporting more military spending. More money could be spent on troop armor while still reducing the overall military budget. Our military expenditures have far exceeded the point of diminishing returns.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #84 April 4, 2008 QuoteMore money could be spent on troop armor while still reducing the overall military budget. You mean like by maybe having our DoD contractors, at the very least, be able show us where they spent our money? A $1.2bn (£590m) contract for training Iraqi police was so badly managed that auditors do not know how the money was spent, the US state department says. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7057629.stm I'm pretty sure that the money for the "$1.8m X-ray scanner that was never used, and the $4m purchase of 20 VIP trailers and an Olympic-size swimming pool" could have bought a fair amount of armor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #85 April 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteMore money could be spent on troop armor while still reducing the overall military budget. You mean like by maybe having our DoD contractors, at the very least, be able show us where they spent our money? A $1.2bn (£590m) contract for training Iraqi police was so badly managed that auditors do not know how the money was spent, the US state department says.. They should check beneath the sofa cushions. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #86 April 4, 2008 Quote McCain is a true American hero. Read some books about him and his trials as a POW. He has balls the size of anyone in this country, and thats what we need. He has experience of many years of serving this country unlike our past two presidents, a draft dodger and a cheerleader. This may well be the last President we will have who comes to power with the experience of combat in his background. How many up and coming politicians today have been in the military? He is afraid of nothing, has a mind of his own and will restore our country when elected. Perhaps his balls were as big as the moon. But, now he's an old fellow of 72. His "experience of combat" is a bit oldfashioned, isn't it? What's his actual experience on political stages? What will it be after 2 laps with 80? Jesus, where are you living? Look, dear: Our Dr. Angela Merkel, chancellor of Germany, surely never has been in a battle. But, that does not stop her to be one of the best leaders we ever had. Accepted all over the world, an equal partner to all other leaders of our little dirty world. Wake up. We are not always and everywhere in battles. We already reached the times where people talk and discuss and just place the cudgel into the corner and start to speak to each other. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #87 April 4, 2008 Quote Quote McCain is a true American hero. Read some books about him and his trials as a POW. He has balls the size of anyone in this country, and thats what we need. He has experience of many years of serving this country unlike our past two presidents, a draft dodger and a cheerleader. This may well be the last President we will have who comes to power with the experience of combat in his background. How many up and coming politicians today have been in the military? He is afraid of nothing, has a mind of his own and will restore our country when elected. Perhaps his balls were as big as the moon. But, now he's an old fellow of 72. His "experience of combat" is a bit oldfashioned, isn't it? What's his actual experience on political stages? What will it be after 2 laps with 80? Jesus, where are you living? His age doesn't bother me. President Reagan was an old guy too. He has vast, vast foreign affairs experience since he returned from Vietnam. Quote Look, dear: Our Dr. Angela Merkel, chancellor of Germany, surely never has been in a battle. But, that does not stop her to be one of the best leaders we ever had. Accepted all over the world, an equal partner to all other leaders of our little dirty world. I won't dispute that. President Clinton is a masterful politician and had an endearing quality in terms of leadership too. Quote Wake up. We are not always and everywhere in battles. We already reached the times where people talk and discuss and just place the cudgel into the corner and start to speak to each other. The ideas about "battle tested" infer a direct relationship to "what type of man you are" per se. Heavy stress responses have a direct link to one's ability to function.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #88 April 4, 2008 QuoteHis age doesn't bother me. President Reagan was an old guy too. The fact that Ronnie spent so many of his years dozing off while in the White House ... that he allowed the boys in the basement to run amuck with Iran Contra and other fun little adventures.....is not a very good example of how a president should be conducting our affairs of state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #89 April 4, 2008 Max, we need fresh open new minded people. The world cannot be changed into a better place with the old ideas, old heros, old idols. That does refer to many (Western) countries. We took the step and voted for a women. A good choice. Today, I've seen a report showing US folks commenting about a possible president named Obama Barack. A young black women just said: If he'll be elected, he'll be a dead man. Shudder to think about that , really. So, it's better to bank on an old veteran? Heaven, no. His main ideas in the morning will be: - when does my cosmetic artist arrive? I look like beeing 100. - where's my doc giving me pills against high blood pressure? - where's my doc giving me pills to wake up? - did I pay the bitch last night? No cameras around? - When did WWII end again? Jesus, Alzheimer's coming.. - why the hell does my purple heart look that "blind"? You name it. Could be for everyone on the planet. Just to rely on a famous veteran could be fatal. The job of a president of a world power does include more than polishing medals and living in the past. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #90 April 4, 2008 Quotewe need fresh open new minded people. The world cannot be changed into a better place with the old ideas, old heros, old idols. That does refer to many (Western) countries. Germany certainly needed that. High unemployment, high taxes and creaking social programs paralyzing the government...I agree. QuoteWe took the step and voted for a women. A good choice. If that makes you feel better, then great. You're not the first to have a female leader. I, for one, do not care what gender or race a candidate for office is. I care about the foundation of their political views. I've chosen not to let racial guilt guide me in my vote...thank God. QuoteToday, I've seen a report showing US folks commenting about a possible president named Obama Barack. His name is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He is a US Senator from Illinois, and currently the most liberal member in the Senate. I disagree with just about every single view he has. He is a very astute politician though. QuoteA young black women just said: If he'll be elected, he'll be a dead man. Shudder to think about that , really. As do I. I am not convinced that is the case though. QuoteSo, it's better to bank on an old veteran? Heaven, no. Since you seem to know so much about him, why don't you really tell me what, specifically, you don't like about him? QuoteJust to rely on a famous veteran could be fatal. The job of a president of a world power does include more than polishing medals and living in the past. ...and this indicates to me that you do not know much, if anything about Senator John Sidney McCain III.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #91 April 5, 2008 >How many up and coming politicians today have been in the military? A partial list: Chris Carney PA-10 Patrick Murphy PA-08 Joe Sestak PA-07 Tim Waltz MN-01 Phil Hare IL-17 Jim Webb VA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #92 April 5, 2008 QuoteSo, it's better to bank on an old veteran? Heaven, no. His main ideas in the morning will be: - when does my cosmetic artist arrive? I look like beeing 100. - where's my doc giving me pills against high blood pressure? - where's my doc giving me pills to wake up? - did I pay the bitch last night? No cameras around? - When did WWII end again? Jesus, Alzheimer's coming.. - why the hell does my purple heart look that "blind"? You name it. Could be for everyone on the planet. Just to rely on a famous veteran could be fatal. The job of a president of a world power does include more than polishing medals and living in the past.Basically, you're an agist. Just a bigot of another sort. I guess wisdom counts for nothing in your book? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #93 April 6, 2008 QuoteSo, it's better to bank on an old veteran? Heaven, no. His main ideas in the morning will be: - when does my cosmetic artist arrive? I look like beeing 100. - where's my doc giving me pills against high blood pressure? - where's my doc giving me pills to wake up? - did I pay the bitch last night? No cameras around? - When did WWII end again? Jesus, Alzheimer's coming.. - why the hell does my purple heart look that "blind"? Now that's some silly shit there. McCain's mother is 95, still sharp as a tack. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #94 April 7, 2008 McBush is much younger. Look how his regime has turned out. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #95 April 7, 2008 Quote This may well be the last President we will have who comes to power with the experience of combat in his background. How many up and coming politicians today have been in the military? Well, there are several, but we see bullshit artists start making stuff up about how they didn't deserve their medals and didn't really serve. Of course, McCain was a multiyear POW, so few scumbags would dare say the same of him. But he may be the last GOP candidate to ever serve for a long time, or forever if none emerge out of the two Iraqi wars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #96 April 7, 2008 QuoteMcBush is much younger. Look how his regime has turned out. So you agree with my notion that age isn't necessarily a factor. Bush's troubles are probably attributable to some long term glue-sniffing issue he had as a kid (as far as I can guess). . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #97 April 8, 2008 McCain is not very bright, has a thin skin, and a very bad temper. A terrible combination for anyone in a position of power. He has been a bully and an asshole as much as he could get away with throughout his whole career. His colleagues don't have much respect for him. Neither does anyone who really looks into the content of his character. He divorced the wife that waited for him while he was a POW, then married a rich gal whose money has gotten him where he is. A classic example of Republican "family values" and their undying commitment to "the sanctity of marriage". He is also an enemy of General Aviation. He got all pissed off at Phil Boyer (president of the AOPA) when Boyer was testifying in front of a committee that McCain headed. I can't recall all of the details, but McCain went ballistic when he couldn't browbeat Boyer into agreeing with him. The transcript of the exchange was great reading. Boyer is cool, calm and collected while McCain goes off bigtime. McCain is in favor of GA user frees, limiting GA access to airports, and voted AGAINST a bill banning torture. Vote for McCain if you want a bad tempered old man who is completely ignorant of basic facts about he biggest issue the next president will face. For those that don't keep up on it, he doesn't know which side of the Iraq civil war the USA supports. We support the side that is supported by the Iranians, in spite of being pissed off about the Iranian participation. Odd, but true. Vote for McCain if you want General Aviation to keep withering away and your jump tickets to cost a lot more money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #98 April 8, 2008 QuoteVote for McCain . . . No thanks -- I'm writing in Ingrid Newkirk. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
