Senator Clinton Releases Tax Returns

[Gawain 0]

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/returns/

They've done very well since President Clinton left office in 2001.

I'll go on the record right now and say that I have no problem with that in iteself. I like to celebrate success, versus demonize it.

However, if you look at this summary:

CUMULATIVE TOTAL(GROSS) INCOME: $109,175,175
Including, among other items:

* Senator Clinton's Senate Salary:          $ 1,051,606

* President Clinton's Presidential Pension: $ 1,217,250

* Senator Clinton's Book Income:            $10,457,083

* President Clinton's Book Income:          $29,580,525

* President Clinton's Speech Income:        $51,855,599

You'll note that those items are short by about $15M. This was brought up by Dick Morris on Fox News, apparently that discrepancy is income earned by President Clinton from InfoUSA, and another source in Dubai. I don't know all the details, and Sen Clinton makes a note about this in her Congressional disclosure reports, but not immediately on her web-site.

I looked at their 2006 return...it was 68 pages long...yikes!

Anyway, there it is. I don't think this will generate into anything crazy in the campaign in the near term, but $15M is lot of money to not account for pretty clearly...

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Amazon 7]

HMM Last I checked.. this is a capitalist country.

You are not jealous are you.. I thought it was only the lefties that were supposed to be struggling with class and wealth envy

[Gawain 0]

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HMM Last I checked.. this is a capitalist country.

You are not jealous are you.. I thought it was only the lefties that were supposed to be struggling with class and wealth envy

Did you even read my post? Look at my first two sentences...

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Amazon 7]

When you make a statement like you did and then throw out a huge BUT.. well ... just what is someone supposed to think

The fact that this is being trumpeted from FAUX NEWS.. says it all.

[lawrocket 3]

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$15M is lot of money to not account for pretty clearly...

Touche, Senator. You ARE the best qualified to run a government. That could easily translate into tens of billions in government money disappearance.

I was wrong about you, Senator.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Amazon 7]

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That could easily translate into tens of billions in government money disappearance.

I would settle for only billions in waste...after the TRILLIONS in waste the NEO CONS have squandered.

[rushmc 23]

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HMM Last I checked.. this is a capitalist country.

You are not jealous are you.. I thought it was only the lefties that were supposed to be struggling with class and wealth envy

Did you even read my post? Look at my first two sentences...

And it is interesting to note that (given an even number however you would like to pair em up) dem senators and reps have a higher net worth than the R's.

Go figure.........

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[happythoughts 0]

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You'll note that those items are short by about $15M. This was brought up by Dick Morris on Fox News, apparently that discrepancy is income earned by President Clinton from InfoUSA, and another source in Dubai.

Wall Street Journal - Dubai

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January 22, 2008

Former President Clinton stands to reap around $20 million -- and will sever a politically sensitive partnership tie to Dubai -- by ending his high-profile business relationship with the investment firm of billionaire friend Ron Burkle.

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Severing the tie to Dubai, a U.S. ally, will remove a potentially tricky problem for Mrs. Clinton. Questions raised about the activities of sovereign wealth funds -- giant pools of money controlled by foreign governments -- have become a campaign issue, as the funds have made a spate of multibillion-dollar investments in such corporate giants as Citigroup Inc. and Merrill Lynch & Co. In a recent interview with The Wall Street Journal, Mrs. Clinton said such purchases are "a source of concern," partly because the foreign funds "lack transparency" and could be used by foreign governments as "instruments of foreign policy."

Of course, the companies that gave BC over $50 million "to speak" will not expect Hillary to help them out...

Sweet deal. It isn't a campaign contribution. It is cash straight to Bill's pocket. $50m

2008 NPR story on INFO USA

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After the Clintons left the White House, Gupta hired Bill Clinton as a consultant. It's one of two continuing business relationships he has had since leaving office, and it has been worth $3.3 million, in addition to the options on 100,000 shares of stock.

Vinod Gupta of INFO USA is the one who is being indicted on fraud of the elderly, misappropriation of funds, and a raft of charges.

[rushmc 23]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/06/13/senators.finances/

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

All
Please understand my position

I am NOT defending or promoting either party.

As lawrocket posted not to long ago, they (both parties) are all scum seeking only to promote their re-election and pad thier own pockets.

My previous post is only to provide context and perspective

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[warpedskydiver 0]

I must reiterate:

The Republicans and the Democrats are the A and B squads of the same team.

Their opponent?

The people

[airdvr 210]

Since when was the Senate salary over $1M/year?

According to WIki its $165,200

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_a_US_Senator_get_paid_a_year

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[likearock 2]

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Since when was the Senate salary over $1M/year?

According to WIki its $165,200

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_a_US_Senator_get_paid_a_year

The numbers are not per year. They are cumulative since Bill Clinton left office in 2001.

[warpedskydiver 0]

Now we all know how they can "feel the pain of the downtrodden middle class, and poor"

It must be a bitch to have to live so frugally.

Yes I am envious, for most people to make that kind of money they would have to work extremely hard, provide a product people need, or be an innovator.

But they get that kind of money for cutting deals and pandering to special interest groups.

Their product? influence and graft.

[rushmc 23]

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I must reiterate:

The Republicans and the Democrats are the A and B squads of the same team.

Their opponent?

The people

Amen brother!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[georgerussia 0]

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I would settle for only billions in waste...after the TRILLIONS in waste the NEO CONS have squandered.

Wait until you see NEO DEMS in action.
Even that little I occassionally heard and read means that in four years you would be surprised that several trillions were ever a concern to you.

* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

[nerdgirl 0]

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Wait until you see NEO DEMS in action.
Even that little I occassionally heard and read means that in four years you would be surprised that several trillions were ever a concern to you.

What’s a “Neo Dem”?

Is that like “neoliberalism”?

VR/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying

[Gawain 0]

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Wait until you see NEO DEMS in action.
Even that little I occassionally heard and read means that in four years you would be surprised that several trillions were ever a concern to you.

What’s a “Neo Dem”?

Is that like “neoliberalism”?

VR/Marg

I think they call themselves "progressives" now...

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[kelpdiver 2]

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I would settle for only billions in waste...after the TRILLIONS in waste the NEO CONS have squandered.

Wait until you see NEO DEMS in action.
Even that little I occassionally heard and read means that in four years you would be surprised that several trillions were ever a concern to you.

Seems like conjecture on your part. Clinton had Congress from 93-94 and raised taxes, didn't raise spending. We know what the deficits were like before and after. Same was true of Carter's term.

[georgerussia 0]

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Seems like conjecture on your part. Clinton had Congress from 93-94 and raised taxes, didn't raise spending.

Did he promised to move troops out of Iraq, provide a "free" healthcare to everyone and help "distressed homeowners" (speculants)?

* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

[kelpdiver 2]

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Seems like conjecture on your part. Clinton had Congress from 93-94 and raised taxes, didn't raise spending.

Did he promised to move troops out of Iraq, provide a "free" healthcare to everyone and help "distressed homeowners" (speculants)?

He made a lot of promises in 1992, but what counts is what actually happens. Like with Bush's no new taxes pledge.

[happythoughts 0]

The real progress for Clinton is how much improvement that she has made in her humanity. One of the early criticisms of her was her robotic appearance.

She would stand their stiffly in her blue dress and not move her neck like a Conehead skit on SNL.
"We are from Arkansas..."

She used to have what poker players would call a "tell".
Every time that she was denying something, she would squint that one eye like a demented Captain Ahab doll. You just knew it was coming.

Today, she smiles, wears clothing that wasn't designed by the Janet Reno school of fashion, and laughs on cue in an almost believable fashion. Vast improvement.

[kelpdiver 2]

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The real progress for Clinton is how much improvement that she has made in her humanity. One of the early criticisms of her was her robotic appearance.

Well, remember back then, she was a lawyer. A poker face is usually the way to go in court. Now she is a Senator, after completing a stint as First Lady. So you'd expect to see some improvement. And of course being a politician in New York is different from being even the governor of Arkansas. It's like serving in Iraq, or being AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard. I'm still amazed they voted for such an obvious carpetbagger.

[JohnnyD 0]

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http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/returns/

They've done very well since President Clinton left office in 2001.

I'll go on the record right now and say that I have no problem with that in iteself. I like to celebrate success, versus demonize it.

However, if you look at this summary:

CUMULATIVE TOTAL(GROSS) INCOME: $109,175,175
Including, among other items:

* Senator Clinton's Senate Salary:          $ 1,051,606

* President Clinton's Presidential Pension: $ 1,217,250

* Senator Clinton's Book Income:            $10,457,083

* President Clinton's Book Income:          $29,580,525

* President Clinton's Speech Income:        $51,855,599

You'll note that those items are short by about $15M. This was brought up by Dick Morris on Fox News, apparently that discrepancy is income earned by President Clinton from InfoUSA, and another source in Dubai. I don't know all the details, and Sen Clinton makes a note about this in her Congressional disclosure reports, but not immediately on her web-site.

I looked at their 2006 return...it was 68 pages long...yikes!

Anyway, there it is. I don't think this will generate into anything crazy in the campaign in the near term, but $15M is lot of money to not account for pretty clearly...

I took a quick peek at the 2006 return out of curiosity. That tax return is remarkably bland. I guess it would stand to reason that its by design, but jeez at that income level I would expect a tax return that would require a couple months of free time and a pair of hip waiters to get through. They are taking conservative to a whole new level there, but on the other hand I guess a presidential candidate going through an audit would be horrible press.

[Amazon 7]

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That tax return is remarkably bland. I guess it would stand to reason that its by design, but jeez at that income level I would expect a tax return that would require a couple months of free time and a pair of hip waiters to get through.

I would think they have very talented accountants.... and leave the hip wiaiters for the trendy restaurants they dine in.