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[gjhdiver 0]

I've gotten out of these in CA a bunch of times. I plead not guilty in court, don't ask for a speedy trial, then continually delay and move the court date at the last minute as many times as I can. In most cases, after six months, they don't have their notes any more or are just too lazy to show up. I removed the front plate of my car also, as that's the one that is mostly caught on the camera. It's a ticketable offense in a lot of states, but you'd be very unlucky to get one. I have a friend who has a plate from a junker on the front that is different from the one on the back. It's never been noticed. The cops never run the front plate, and they never think to run both against each other.

Also, if you get tagged by an airplane and stopped by the car on the ground, always contest it, as both the pilot and the ticketing cop have to turn up. I've never seen a pilot cop turn up in court for a hearing. Instant dismissal. My last ticket was like that. If you speed over the Altamont pass on the way to Byron, you'll get hit by the airplane every time.

There's a book I bought a few years back called How to Get Out of a Ticket in CA. It's paid for itself tens of times over. If one exists in your state, I suggest a purchase.

A few years back, I was at a DZ somewhere I shall not name, when one of these cop planes landed for fuel and for the pilot to use the bathroom. Funnily enough, when he came out, he couldn't seem to find the keys to the plane. How careless of him.

[rehmwa 2]

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>So just how far out there would you have to set the speed limit before
>you no longer felt the "you have no excuse its the law" argument applies?
>55? 50? 35?

Let's take 5.

Unless you drive a stick, then let's take 15.

Of course, if you drive the enviro-friendly car, then by the time you-get-to-15 you'd be through the construction zone anyway.

(we just traded the F150 for something with better mileage. see? the free market DOES work.

hated to lose it, it was a nice truck)

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[kallend 2,106]

Bill,

It is a fact that some jurisdictions use traffic tickets as a revenue generating tool and not a safety tool. Where I live the locals all know where these places are, but strangers would not. I'm sure it's much the same in other states too.

If all speed limits were based on some objective safety criterion that would be one thing. However, that is NOT the case.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,075]

>It is a fact that some jurisdictions use traffic tickets as a revenue
>generating tool and not a safety tool.

I agree. The solution is therefore to vote out the people who are implementing traffic laws that are not to your liking (and/or circulate petitions, or float a ballot measure, or any of the other ways that we create the laws we live under.)

>If all speed limits were based on some objective safety criterion
>that would be one thing.

Most are, some are not.

Heck, some people still use the 45 degree rule. That does NOT mean it's OK to ignore exit separation because some people use a stupid, meaningless rule.

[rehmwa 2]

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f all speed limits were based on some objective safety criterion that would be one thing. However, that is NOT the case.

If we operate under the assumption that legislatures can only work one issue at a time, then I'm all for working on poorly established speed limits (we have a divided 4 lane Interstate here that's marked 45mph fercrissakes).

But I'd prioritize it AFTER eliminating carpool lanes, metered on ramps, stupid stop lights, and those 3 idiots at every light change that go through after the light turns red (mostly in affluent neighborhoods for some reason).

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[airtwardo 7]

And what's with all the fucking cameras? Didn't anyone read Orwell in school?

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The damn robots are WINNING!

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[metalslug 36]

Hah, I can do one better !

Here in darkest Africa, we'll fine your speeding ass even if your car is towed too fast.
Seriously, check it out....

[shropshire 0]

That's brilliant.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome