kallend 2,106 #76 April 17, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote "Those that think it's a stupid law will just drive into the parking lot with their gun anyway." - makes them a felon if caught. This is not an issue with law-abiding, legal carrying, responsible gun owners. Being a law-abiding citizen and having a legal gun in your car, and then turning into a parking lot, should not suddenly turn you into a felon. Well, apparently it does if it's defined as a felony. "Law abiding" means you obey the law - ALL the law. Many believe intent is necessary to commit a felony. . Well, if the vehicle turns UNintentionally into the parking lot, it is probably demonically possessed and you have other problems.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #77 April 17, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Well, apparently it does if it's defined as a felony. "Law abiding" means you obey the law - ALL the law. Many believe intent is necessary to commit a felony. . Well, if the vehicle turns UNintentionally into the parking lot, it is probably demonically possessed and you have other problems. Turning into the parking lot isn't the felony, so try again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #78 April 18, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Well, apparently it does if it's defined as a felony. "Law abiding" means you obey the law - ALL the law. Many believe intent is necessary to commit a felony. . Well, if the vehicle turns UNintentionally into the parking lot, it is probably demonically possessed and you have other problems. Turning into the parking lot isn't the felony, so try again. Are you actually following the thread?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #79 April 18, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Well, apparently it does if it's defined as a felony. "Law abiding" means you obey the law - ALL the law. Many believe intent is necessary to commit a felony. . Well, if the vehicle turns UNintentionally into the parking lot, it is probably demonically possessed and you have other problems. Turning into the parking lot isn't the felony, so try again. Are you actually following the thread? I'm giving it as much attention as it deserves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #80 April 18, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Well, apparently it does if it's defined as a felony. "Law abiding" means you obey the law - ALL the law. Many believe intent is necessary to commit a felony. . Well, if the vehicle turns UNintentionally into the parking lot, it is probably demonically possessed and you have other problems. Turning into the parking lot isn't the felony, so try again. Are you actually following the thread? I'm giving it as much attention as it deserves. OK, that explains it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyPiggie 0 #81 April 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote"Law abiding" means you obey the law - ALL the law. So if someone's only "crime" in their entire life is that they once jay-walked across the street outside the marked cross-walk zones, then you would not describe that person as "law-abiding"? Weren't you discussing FELONIES? (Hint: read your own post). However, someone who is an habitual scofflaw with regard to traffic laws can hardly be described as "law abiding". So when you refer to "ALL the law", you weren't including misdemeanors? Therefore, someone can commit a few misdemeanors and still be "law abiding", as long as they don't cross the line into felonies. You sure have some funny and convenient definitions to fit your statements. As usual, just more of the kallend games. So you're okay with someone being charged with a felony for simply driving their car into a parking lot while they have a gun in their car? Try and give a simple answer, like a "yes" or a "no". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #82 April 18, 2008 You got a warrant to search that car occifer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #83 April 19, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote"Law abiding" means you obey the law - ALL the law. So if someone's only "crime" in their entire life is that they once jay-walked across the street outside the marked cross-walk zones, then you would not describe that person as "law-abiding"? Weren't you discussing FELONIES? (Hint: read your own post). However, someone who is an habitual scofflaw with regard to traffic laws can hardly be described as "law abiding". So when you refer to "ALL the law", you weren't including misdemeanors? Therefore, someone can commit a few misdemeanors and still be "law abiding", as long as they don't cross the line into felonies. You sure have some funny and convenient definitions to fit your statements. As usual, just more of the kallend games. You sure have a strange definition of "law abiding". IMO, if you disregard the law, you are NOT law abiding. Quote So you're okay with someone being charged with a felony for simply driving their car into a parking lot while they have a gun in their car? Try and give a simple answer, like a "yes" or a "no". If being in that parking lot with a gun in your car is a FELONY according to the law of that jurisdiction, then YES, I am in favor of someone who violates that law being charged with a felony. If it is NOT a felony according to the law in that jurisdiction, then I am NOT in favor of charging the person with a felony. I am surprised that you find this so difficult to comprehend. To be "law abiding" you cannot pick and choose which laws you will abide by, and disregard those you disagree with.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #84 April 19, 2008 You do"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyPiggie 0 #85 April 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteSo you're okay with someone being charged with a felony for simply driving their car into a parking lot while they have a gun in their car? Try and give a simple answer, like a "yes" or a "no". If being in that parking lot with a gun in your car is a FELONY according to the law of that jurisdiction, then YES, I am in favor of someone who violates that law being charged with a felony. So you don't stop to think about whether or not the law is just plain stupid and punishes someone severely who hasn't actually done anything to harm anyone or anything. The only thing that matters to you is that some legislators made it illegal, and therefore all violators ought to pay. Thanks for that brilliant open-minded, critical, professional mind and thinking. So, based upon this philosophy, I guess you think that all illegal immigrants should be rounded up and deported immediately, right? Or does this philosophy only apply to those darned gun owners? QuoteTo be "law abiding" you cannot pick and choose which laws you will abide by, and disregard those you disagree with. "Law abiding" means you obey the law - ALL the law. Now that's funny, because you just contradicted yourself once again. First you say we must obey ALL laws (capitalization is yours) to be law-abiding, but then you decided to dismiss misdemeanors and include only felonies in your definition. But felonies-only does not constitute ALL the law. And then to further confuse your statement, you decided that misdemeanors should count also for scofflaws, but only if they're committed repeatedly. So your "ALL the law" has morphed and evolved from; 1) "ALL" laws, to; 2) only felonies, to; 3) felonies and repeated misdemeanors, and now you're; 4) back to "ALL" laws. Sheesh, I wish you could make up your mind and stick to something. And you accuse US of having difficulty trying to keep up with you. Ha! You can't even keep up with yourself. Thanks for the entertainment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #86 April 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo you're okay with someone being charged with a felony for simply driving their car into a parking lot while they have a gun in their car? Try and give a simple answer, like a "yes" or a "no". If being in that parking lot with a gun in your car is a FELONY according to the law of that jurisdiction, then YES, I am in favor of someone who violates that law being charged with a felony. So you don't stop to think about whether or not the law is just plain stupid and punishes someone severely who hasn't actually done anything to harm anyone or anything. QuoteTo be "law abiding" you cannot pick and choose which laws you will abide by, and disregard those you disagree with. "Law abiding" means you obey the law - ALL the law. How is committing a FELONY harmless? The legislature has defined "de jure" it to be harmful. Quote Now that's funny, because you just contradicted yourself once again. First you say we must obey ALL laws (capitalization is yours) to be law-abiding, but then you decided to dismiss misdemeanors and include only felonies in your definition. But felonies-only does not constitute ALL the law. And then to further confuse your statement, you decided that misdemeanors should count also for scofflaws, but only if they're committed repeatedly. So your "ALL the law" has morphed and evolved from; 1) "ALL" laws, to; 2) only felonies, to; 3) felonies and repeated misdemeanors, and now you're; 4) back to "ALL" laws. Sheesh, I wish you could make up your mind and stick to something. And you accuse US of having difficulty trying to keep up with you. Ha! You can't even keep up with yourself. Thanks for the entertainment. Apparently you don't understand the meaning of "law abiding". If you commit a FELONY, you are definitely NOT law abiding whether or not you think the law is stupid..... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #87 April 28, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote What a bunch of loonies....why? just why? Just a step further toward fostering a "polite society". Right, so polite that it already has the highest homicide rate among "first world" nations. Florida is a nation???? Doesn't matter what you call Florida, it STILL has a higher homicide rate than any 1st world nation, including the USA as a whole. As does Texas. And it STILL can't be proved it was because of the guns. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.\ Of course, the "polite society" comment can still be true if we define shooting someone to be "polite". STILL can't find any links on how guns fulfill the Koch postulates, Professor? I'll excuse your inability to realize how being held personally responsible for the consequences of your actions could have the effect of making for a more polite society.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #88 April 28, 2008 HOLY SHIT Mike has come out of hiding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #89 April 28, 2008 Welcome back. Only polite people allowed in here, so bring your guns.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #90 April 28, 2008 Quote HOLY SHIT Mike has come out of hiding Back from vacation and nose to the grindstone, so to speak.... Quote Welcome back. Only polite people allowed in here, so bring your guns. Thanks! I can be polite without having any guns to hand, though.... usually, anyway!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeteNoire 0 #91 June 4, 2013 You admit you have a gun in your car? And yet you want more gun control? Why don't you set the example by giving up your own gun first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
