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The reason some in the world hate america

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Just sarcastic, Marg. I once was idealistic, too. But the world fights back, you know?

Since I've become a hardest pragmatist and skeptic, I've been much happier working within the rules. Whereas I was the one who woulod bitch about how lousy my lot in life was, I then started workign at it and, gee...

Sometimes I just get sarcastic. Sorry.


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Wow! Good stuff!
Everyone should go back and read post #12.

I was thinking along similar lines. You put it much more eloquently than I ever could.

My thought:
...because nobody likes the hypocritical, bully policeman...which the U.S. has become.
My reality and yours are quite different.
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...and then there's BikerBabe's post (#25) that gets to the roots with the man-in-the-street point of view.

How right you are!
During my year's stay in Europe, that is the one thing that I saw that stands out that turned the local population off the most...arrogant Americans. Sometimes I was ashamed to admit I was American...sometimes scared to.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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...and then there's BikerBabe's post (#25) that gets to the roots with the man-in-the-street point of view.

How right you are!
During my year's stay in Europe, that is the one thing that I saw that stands out that turned the local population off the most...arrogant Americans. Sometimes I was ashamed to admit I was American...sometimes scared to.



hehe, and the top three most important foreign phrases to learn before travelling overseas are:

3) two beers please - eg "dos cervezas por favor"

2) I sorry, do you speak English? - eg "pardonnez-moi monsieur, parlez-vous Anglais?"

1) no, it's ok, I'm English - NOT an American - eg "niet niet, Inglitski!"

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As a country, we're self-absorbed, and don't realize that it's not all about us. Who likes that self-absorbed guy? The one who practically says "OK, enough about you -- let's talk about me"

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I believe that the above reasons (except jelousy which I believe is the lazy and easy answer) are why some people in the world hate america. Do you agree? Do you think its for other reasons? So why do you thing that some people in the world hate america?



I have a question, why does the world NOT hate Britain anymore? They used to. What has changed?

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During my year's stay in Europe, that is the one thing that I saw that stands out that turned the local population off the most...arrogant Americans. Sometimes I was ashamed to admit I was American...sometimes scared to.



of course if every "pretty" American claims to be Canadian or Britist, impressions will be based on only the ugly ones.

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I think its a given that many in the world hate the USA...


I am good with that.. as long as we can hit them before they can harm us..its all good.:ph34r:


I dont think its possible to not have them hate us.. unless we all convert em-masse to their particular sect.

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Would that one be China, EU or USA? Just because the US barks the loudest doesn't make them the only big dog.



I would have to agree whole heartedly with this statement.

To think that the USA is the strongest country in the world is somewhat naive!

China is the big player these days.
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I believe that the above reasons (except jelousy which I believe is the lazy and easy answer) are why some people in the world hate america. Do you agree? Do you think its for other reasons? So why do you thing that some people in the world hate america?



I have a question, why does the world NOT hate Britain anymore? They used to. What has changed?



They don't hate us, they just dislike us intensely.
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I believe that the above reasons (except jelousy which I believe is the lazy and easy answer) are why some people in the world hate america. Do you agree? Do you think its for other reasons? So why do you thing that some people in the world hate america?



I have a question, why does the world NOT hate Britain anymore? They used to. What has changed?



I wouldn't be surprised if we were *still* hated. The difference being - we've never expected to be loved.
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yep- that's why it's GDP is just barely over the UK (despite a huge differential in population), and 1/4th that of the US.



That is not going to be the case for very long, ask an electrician why the price of copper wire ghas more than doubles over the last few years? ask why the australian mining industry is booming?

why?

Because china is developing......... fast.

some in china get paid less than $2 per day.

what will the GDP of china be in 10 years?????

That is the question, the current trends would indicate something quite different to the current standings.
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nice backpedal!

But I don't see any scenario where China quadruples its output in 10 years. 15% for 10 years? It's averaging 10. Since the US is 4 times the size, it only has to do 2.5% to gain the same amount.

With the energy/resource crunch, the pollution concerns, and competition from even cheaper labor markets (Vietnam), there's no guarantee that China will sustain the growth. 1.2B people is a lot of drag.

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15% for 10 years? It's averaging 10. Since the US is 4 times the size, it only has to do 2.5% to gain the same amount.



How did you come to that conclusion? We can't use a simple interest model. Starting with a GDP one-fourth as large as that of the US, if China's GDP increases ay a rate of 10% versus 2.5% for the us, China's GDP would have increased by an amount over 42% greater than the amount by which the US GDP would increase. Their GDP would at that time be approximately one half that of the US. At those growth rates, China's GDP would surpass the US' GDP in less than twenty years.
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15% for 10 years? It's averaging 10. Since the US is 4 times the size, it only has to do 2.5% to gain the same amount.



How did you come to that conclusion? We can't use a simple interest model. Starting with a GDP one-fourth as large as that of the US, if China's GDP increases ay a rate of 10% versus 2.5% for the us, China's GDP would have increased by an amount over 42% greater than the amount by which the US GDP would increase. Their GDP would at that time be approximately one half that of the US. At those growth rates, China's GDP would surpass the US' GDP in less than twenty years.



sure...but his claim was China was the top dog, not that it might catch a lagging US in 20 years. His second claim was that it would be true in 10 years. And as Walmart has proven, the bigger you get, the harder it is to maintain such rates of growth.

GDP is only one measure, of course, but the obligation is on him to find a metric that supports his claim.

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15% for 10 years? It's averaging 10. Since the US is 4 times the size, it only has to do 2.5% to gain the same amount.



How did you come to that conclusion? We can't use a simple interest model. Starting with a GDP one-fourth as large as that of the US, if China's GDP increases ay a rate of 10% versus 2.5% for the us, China's GDP would have increased by an amount over 42% greater than the amount by which the US GDP would increase. Their GDP would at that time be approximately one half that of the US. At those growth rates, China's GDP would surpass the US' GDP in less than twenty years.



sure...but his claim was China was the top dog, not that it might catch a lagging US in 20 years. His second claim was that it would be true in 10 years. And as Walmart has proven, the bigger you get, the harder it is to maintain such rates of growth.



I didn't respond to his claims, I responded to yours. To put it a different way, if China's annual growth rate for their GDP is a conservative 10%, the US' growth rate needs to be just over 3.41% to realize the same absolute increase as China.

China is a big dog on the front porch of the world. So is the US. If we went strictly by GDP, EU is the biggest dog of all.
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China is a big dog on the front porch of the world. So is the US. If we went strictly by GDP, EU is the biggest dog of all.



It would be if it acted as one cohensive group. But given the difference between the UK and France (two of the biggest 3 members) for Iraq II, that's not the case.

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It would be if it acted as one cohensive group. But given the difference between the UK and France (two of the biggest 3 members) for Iraq II, that's not the case.



Nor do California and Texas act as one cohesive group. Just because they have structured their union differently than we have doesn't make the EU any less important.
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It would be if it acted as one cohensive group. But given the difference between the UK and France (two of the biggest 3 members) for Iraq II, that's not the case.



Nor do California and Texas act as one cohesive group. Just because they have structured their union differently than we have doesn't make the EU any less important.



You don't want to yield on anything, do you?

when it comes to foreign policy, Texas and California are one, and people within each are free to move to the other. Just because SF was opposed to the war, US actions were not changed. Interstate commerce is also strictly controlled by the Feds. The EU isn't remotely the same.

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when it comes to foreign policy, Texas and California are one, and people within each are free to move to the other. Just because SF was opposed to the war, US actions were not changed. Interstate commerce is also strictly controlled by the Feds. The EU isn't remotely the same.



So if they aren't set up just like the US, they don't count?

From an economic perspective, the EU is quite unified, well, except for the Brits, who won't give up their £.
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