rushmc 23 #76 July 3, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080703120512.75gtwijc&show_article=1 Sure! A small sample of some other predictions and prognostications from the Bush administration: The deficit will be small and short term. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months. The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him. We know where they are. A balanced federal budget remains a high priority for this president Ignore the topic and bash bush squirt .............. Just illustrating that predictions made by this administration are generally worthless - the context being Paulson's prediction about the economy in your cited article. Finally, you and the Bush admin have something in common"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #77 July 3, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080703120512.75gtwijc&show_article=1 Sure! A small sample of some other predictions and prognostications from the Bush administration: The deficit will be small and short term. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months. The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him. We know where they are. A balanced federal budget remains a high priority for this president Ignore the topic and bash bush squirt .............. Just illustrating that predictions made by this administration are generally worthless - the context being Paulson's prediction about the economy in your cited article. Finally, you and the Bush admin have something in common You COULD check your facts before making up silly insults. Compare my predictions with Bush's (and yours) on: the deficit, WMDs, the Iraq quagmire (just to name three).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #78 July 3, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080703120512.75gtwijc&show_article=1 Sure! A small sample of some other predictions and prognostications from the Bush administration: The deficit will be small and short term. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months. The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him. We know where they are. A balanced federal budget remains a high priority for this president Ignore the topic and bash bush squirt .............. Just illustrating that predictions made by this administration are generally worthless - the context being Paulson's prediction about the economy in your cited article. Finally, you and the Bush admin have something in common You COULD check your facts before making up silly insults. Compare my predictions with Bush's (and yours) on: the deficit, WMDs, the Iraq quagmire (just to name three). You respond to my rediculas silly reply with lies? How nice"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #79 July 3, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080703120512.75gtwijc&show_article=1 Sure! A small sample of some other predictions and prognostications from the Bush administration: The deficit will be small and short term. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months. The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him. We know where they are. A balanced federal budget remains a high priority for this president Ignore the topic and bash bush squirt .............. Just illustrating that predictions made by this administration are generally worthless - the context being Paulson's prediction about the economy in your cited article. Finally, you and the Bush admin have something in common You COULD check your facts before making up silly insults. Compare my predictions with Bush's (and yours) on: the deficit, WMDs, the Iraq quagmire (just to name three). You respond to my rediculas silly reply with lies? How nice What was a lie in a suggestion that you check the facts? Have you even forgotten what a lie is now?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #80 July 3, 2008 Quotehttp://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080703120512.75gtwijc&show_article=1 Do you really think a Cabinet member is going to make a negative prediction during an election year in which his party is blamed for a crappy economy? The only shot the GOP has is to lie to the public about the gas price reductions that would result from expanded drilling. That's their Willie Horton issue. Might work, though I think it's more likely the Democrats will cave and put their own interests ahead of the nation's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #81 August 28, 2008 And so it remains... http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080828/economy.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #82 August 29, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy;_ylt=AoYdCtRyuqB6NE98vdQkyxms0NUE With all the literal psyching into a "recession"...which means there have been two-consecutive-quarters of contraction in the GDP...we haven't even had one yet. Now, was the 1Q08 a roaring expansion? At 0.6%, certainly not. Consumer spending was up 1% and energy and food prices are clear issues that need to be monitored carefully. Either way, it must be tough to be a liberal who's been crying "R" for a while...the doom and gloom is near... Must be very comforting for you to think that while you pay nearly $4/gallon for gas, watch house prices slumping, and growth rate 2 consecutive quarters of GDP contraction is not the only metric for identifying recessions. According to the economists at the National Bureau of Economic Research, a recession is defined as a "significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months." By their methodology -- and they are the official arbiters of such things -- this is a recession. Well there we have it folks.. Mr kallend has stated there is a ression and so it must be so. Why, cause he has appointed himself the officail arbiter of all of this, , ,,, I guess So you are not paying close to $4 for gas? You would come over much better if you stated you own views. I think we are in a recession, just look at the data. What do you think, you are so focused on proving certain folks wrong that you can't present credible arguments. The left needs there to be ression for the upcoming elections. See the posts above of who make the deterimination and how. Now, you prove there IS a ression since is seems to be so important to you that there is one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The left needs there to be ression for the upcoming elections. Really? You mean McSame, 95% of GWB, could win on: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushresume.htm - Mortgage disaster - 10T debt (from 5.5T 8 years prior) - $4 gas - Multiple mortage co meltdowns w/gov rescue imminent - Scooter Libby scandal, pardon to come soon\ - Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period - Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market - Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period - Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history - of course he is one - Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans - There are plenty more products of the right wing........ Do you really think it matters if a recession is officially announced? Get real. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #83 August 29, 2008 Quote Thank you oh great (self appointed) arbiter Oh, did I forget currency devaluation? Clinton left: $1 US = $1.55 Canadian Now: even steven..... do the math and against the pound or the euro, nevermind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #84 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteHowever, I don't think ANY voters need the NBER, you, me, or GWB to tell them how they are faring under $4 gas, high food prices, the $US in the basement, homes losing value... I never presumed to tell anyone how they are faring. I did point out that despite the problematic components, consumer spending is up and the overall economy grew (a hair). Crying recession long enough is only going to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's bound to happen because our economy does seem to cycle -- about every 6-8 years it seems. If I start spouting that a plane is going to crash...sooner or later it's going to happen. I place the current energy burden on the energy laws passed in 2005, 2007 and the weak dollar. Ethanol is a great idea, but not at the expense of the food supply. Bush didn't veto a bill from congress for the 1st 5.5 years, so the R Party ran teh nation. Let's look at the numbers: Currency in teh toilet, world hates us, debt thru the roof.... do I really need to go on? Come on out of denial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #85 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteHowever, I don't think ANY voters need the NBER, you, me, or GWB to tell them how they are faring under $4 gas, high food prices, the $US in the basement, homes losing value... I never presumed to tell anyone how they are faring. I did point out that despite the problematic components, consumer spending is up and the overall economy grew (a hair). Crying recession long enough is only going to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's bound to happen because our economy does seem to cycle -- about every 6-8 years it seems. If I start spouting that a plane is going to crash...sooner or later it's going to happen. I place the current energy burden on the energy laws passed in 2005, 2007 and the weak dollar. Ethanol is a great idea, but not at the expense of the food supply. Bush didn't veto a bill from congress for the 1st 5.5 years, so the R Party ran teh nation. Let's look at the numbers: Currency in teh toilet, world hates us, debt thru the roof.... do I really need to go on? Come on out of denial. FOR this post and THIS post only, I agree with you 100%!!!!!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #86 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHowever, I don't think ANY voters need the NBER, you, me, or GWB to tell them how they are faring under $4 gas, high food prices, the $US in the basement, homes losing value... I never presumed to tell anyone how they are faring. I did point out that despite the problematic components, consumer spending is up and the overall economy grew (a hair). Crying recession long enough is only going to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's bound to happen because our economy does seem to cycle -- about every 6-8 years it seems. If I start spouting that a plane is going to crash...sooner or later it's going to happen. I place the current energy burden on the energy laws passed in 2005, 2007 and the weak dollar. Ethanol is a great idea, but not at the expense of the food supply. Bush didn't veto a bill from congress for the 1st 5.5 years, so the R Party ran teh nation. Let's look at the numbers: Currency in teh toilet, world hates us, debt thru the roof.... do I really need to go on? Come on out of denial. FOR this post and THIS post only, I agree with you 100%!!!!!!! THEREFORE....... we don't need to be in a recession to win the WH, congressional seats or dog catcher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #87 August 29, 2008 Of all the active threads on this site, this one must be the biggest thorn in any lefties side. Priceless (other than a thread showing the polling trends) "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #88 August 29, 2008 Quote Of all the active threads on this site, this one must be the biggest thorn in any lefties side. Priceless (other than a thread showing the polling trends) I'm pretty sure you consider me a leftie, though I don't really. I was told today that while our union jobs are safe into the upcoming year, the rest of us scientist, engineer, and manager types might want to dust off our resumes. That's enough for me to anecdotally state that a recession or depression looms for many folks...just not those favored by the left. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #89 August 29, 2008 Quote Of all the active threads on this site, this one must be the biggest thorn in any lefties side. Priceless (other than a thread showing the polling trends) Why is that? I'm just glad it looks like the end to the Reagan/Bush regime that has fucked this country. How is it the left cares of this thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #90 August 29, 2008 Quote Quote Of all the active threads on this site, this one must be the biggest thorn in any lefties side. Priceless (other than a thread showing the polling trends) I'm pretty sure you consider me a leftie, though I don't really. I was told today that while our union jobs are safe into the upcoming year, the rest of us scientist, engineer, and manager types might want to dust off our resumes. That's enough for me to anecdotally state that a recession or depression looms for many folks...just not those favored by the left. Blues, Dave Wrong. I am now a UNION officer an privy to some info. They lie just like any politicians and the picture isn't pretty. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #91 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHowever, I don't think ANY voters need the NBER, you, me, or GWB to tell them how they are faring under $4 gas, high food prices, the $US in the basement, homes losing value... I never presumed to tell anyone how they are faring. I did point out that despite the problematic components, consumer spending is up and the overall economy grew (a hair). Crying recession long enough is only going to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's bound to happen because our economy does seem to cycle -- about every 6-8 years it seems. If I start spouting that a plane is going to crash...sooner or later it's going to happen. I place the current energy burden on the energy laws passed in 2005, 2007 and the weak dollar. Ethanol is a great idea, but not at the expense of the food supply. Bush didn't veto a bill from congress for the 1st 5.5 years, so the R Party ran teh nation. Let's look at the numbers: Currency in teh toilet, world hates us, debt thru the roof.... do I really need to go on? Come on out of denial. FOR this post and THIS post only, I agree with you 100%!!!!!!! If you agree then why are you going to vote for a president that will perpetuate it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #92 August 29, 2008 Quote http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy;_ylt=AoYdCtRyuqB6NE98vdQkyxms0NUE With all the literal psyching into a "recession"...which means there have been two-consecutive-quarters of contraction in the GDP...we haven't even had one yet. Now, was the 1Q08 a roaring expansion? At 0.6%, certainly not. Consumer spending was up 1% and energy and food prices are clear issues that need to be monitored carefully. Either way, it must be tough to be a liberal who's been crying "R" for a while...the doom and gloom is near... I've been saying this for a while, even though I am far from an economics wonk: there's a definition economists use for "recession," and so it doesn't matter worth a fuck if people on the street feel that we're in one.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #93 August 29, 2008 QuoteOf all the active threads on this site, this one must be the biggest thorn in any lefties side. You might hope so, but with companies giving raises this year far lower than the official rate of inflation (nevermind effective rate), most people don't feel like there's growth. If people are voting based on their feeling about the economy, your candidate suffers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #94 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteOf all the active threads on this site, this one must be the biggest thorn in any lefties side. You might hope so, but with companies giving raises this year far lower than the official rate of inflation (nevermind effective rate), most people don't feel like there's growth. If people are voting based on their feeling about the economy, your candidate suffers. Well, I'm voting "gun rights." I don't want to see lefties appointed to the Supreme Court so that sore-loser intellectual frauds can reverse the Heller decision just a year or two after it came down. I already know that the Left doesn't care how bad it makes itself look when it gets petulant and wants what it should not have. They have no self-awareness when it comes to that. So I know that looking like a bunch of sore losing LIARS is not going to stop them from putting in, say two new justices and then immediately seeking, through supreme-judicial activism, to reverse the landmark case that finally established--through exhaustive legal and historical scholarship--that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #95 August 29, 2008 Quote Quote http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy;_ylt=AoYdCtRyuqB6NE98vdQkyxms0NUE With all the literal psyching into a "recession"...which means there have been two-consecutive-quarters of contraction in the GDP...we haven't even had one yet. Now, was the 1Q08 a roaring expansion? At 0.6%, certainly not. Consumer spending was up 1% and energy and food prices are clear issues that need to be monitored carefully. Either way, it must be tough to be a liberal who's been crying "R" for a while...the doom and gloom is near... I've been saying this for a while, even though I am far from an economics wonk: there's a definition economists use for "recession," and so it doesn't matter worth a fuck if people on the street feel that we're in one. Yes there is. The OFFICIAL definition in the USA is: "a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales." Then there's the UNofficial one about 2 consecutive quarters blah blah blah. And the real one, which is whether people feel worse off now than they did 4 years ago. According to McCain's own ads, they do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #96 August 29, 2008 QuoteWell, I'm voting "gun rights." I don't want to see lefties appointed to the Supreme Court so that sore-loser intellectual frauds can reverse the Heller decision just a year or two after it came down. I already know that the Left doesn't care how bad it makes itself look when it gets petulant and wants what it should not have. They have no self-awareness when it comes to that. So I know that looking like a bunch of sore losing LIARS is not going to stop them from putting in, say two new justices and then immediately seeking, through supreme-judicial activism, to reverse the landmark case that finally established--through exhaustive legal and historical scholarship--that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right. Exactly, the most important issue for the USA right now is whether or not there should be any restriction on gun ownership. NOTHING is more important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #97 August 29, 2008 Quote Exactly, the most important issue for the USA right now is whether or not there should be any restriction on gun ownership. NOTHING is more important. Different strokes for different folks...you think I could find some folks in Quebec that think secession should still be Quebec's primary goal? Certainly there are many that have different priorities...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #98 August 29, 2008 Quote Quote Well, I'm voting "gun rights." I don't want to see lefties appointed to the Supreme Court so that sore-loser intellectual frauds can reverse the Heller decision just a year or two after it came down. I already know that the Left doesn't care how bad it makes itself look when it gets petulant and wants what it should not have. They have no self-awareness when it comes to that. So I know that looking like a bunch of sore losing LIARS is not going to stop them from putting in, say two new justices and then immediately seeking, through supreme-judicial activism, to reverse the landmark case that finally established--through exhaustive legal and historical scholarship--that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right. Exactly, the most important issue for the USA right now is whether or not there should be any restriction on gun ownership. NOTHING is more important. Never fear, my good man. If your people get elected, soon we'll all be told what we're allowed to think, and of course our guns won't be ours for very long (unless we're willing to use them) so there possibly won't be folks like me bothering you with their awful, differing opinions much. That's what you want, yes? For those of us who value our ability to fight tyranny if need be, down the road, to be set straight to think like liberals? WE NEED TO BE "RE-EDUCATED," AND OBAMANATION IS JUST THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO IT!! GO OBAMA! Tell us what to think!!Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #99 August 29, 2008 QuoteExactly, the most important issue for the USA right now is whether or not there should be any restriction on gun ownership. NOTHING is more important. Did I stand here and ridicule the things that you think are more important? I hope that people who sell out gun rights for socialized medicine are happy when the rest of their Constitutional rights are abridged into nonexistence and they have nothing with which to fight to take them back! Maybe those of us who stay armed will not be too keen on doing anything for those people if the time ever comes.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #100 August 29, 2008 Quote Well, I'm voting "gun rights." I don't want to see lefties appointed to the Supreme Court so that sore-loser intellectual frauds can reverse the Heller decision just a year or two after it came down. I already know that the Left doesn't care how bad it makes itself look when it gets petulant and wants what it should not have. They have no self-awareness when it comes to that. So I know that looking like a bunch of sore losing LIARS is not going to stop them from putting in, say two new justices and then immediately seeking, through supreme-judicial activism, to reverse the landmark case that finally established--through exhaustive legal and historical scholarship--that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right. It was 69 years between Miller and Heller. Historically the court has not rushed to reverse itself just because the membership changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
