rhys 0 #1 May 11, 2008 Hey there, I have just learned about this supposed union of north america. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo Anyone schooled up on this? I would tend to believe it at this stage. It is consistent with my beliefs of the ethics and motives of the powers in charge, but haven't researched it enough yet to know."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildWilly 0 #2 May 11, 2008 Interesting video, but I think it will be a lot harder to accomplish than they portray. Not all people are going to be that easily convinced that this is a good idea. I know I don't and I would never support a candidate that did. And no one is going to stick a f.....g chip in my arm to keep track of my everyday life Willy growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #3 May 12, 2008 There has always been talk of making Puerto Rico the 51st state. It never happened. For the same reasons that the US does not want a tighter financial bond with Mexico or Canada. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #4 May 12, 2008 >And no one is going to stick a f.....g chip in my arm to keep track of my everyday life . . . They won't sell it that way. They will sell it as a way to protect the United States against terrorism and illegal immigration. (Surely you're not FOR illegal immigration?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #5 May 12, 2008 I don't need no stinking farting chip. I can work them up at will without artificial insistence." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 May 12, 2008 Quote And no one is going to stick a f.....g chip in my arm to keep track of my everyday life How many credit cards do you have? How many websites do you go to daily .. and what cookies are on your computer? What is your FICO score What is your government supplied numbers for ANY services you have ever gotten from them? The amount of information on nearly everyone who participates in the economy is staggering.They dont really need the chip... they already have you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #7 May 12, 2008 QuoteThere has always been talk of making Puerto Rico the 51st state. It never happened. For the same reasons that the US does not want a tighter financial bond with Mexico or Canada. Canada - maybe, but I think both are content with the arrangement we have now. But Mexico - what's the upside for us? Same problem the EU faces with admitting countries in eastern Europe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildWilly 0 #8 May 12, 2008 Quote>And no one is going to stick a f.....g chip in my arm to keep track of my everyday life . . . They won't sell it that way. They will sell it as a way to protect the United States against terrorism and illegal immigration. (Surely you're not FOR illegal immigration?) Of course I'm not for illegal immigration. Still no one is going to stick any kind of chip in my arm. Willygrowing old is inevitable, growing up is optional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildWilly 0 #9 May 12, 2008 Quote Quote And no one is going to stick a f.....g chip in my arm to keep track of my everyday life How many credit cards do you have? 3 How many websites do you go to daily .. and what cookies are on your computer? this one and a few others.. I don't have any cookies on my computer, I have a program that removes them. What is your FICO score What is FICO? What is your government supplied numbers for ANY services you have ever gotten from them? Everyone has government numbers. The amount of information on nearly everyone who participates in the economy is staggering.Yes it is. mostly useless. Who wants to know what kind of shit wad I use. They dont really need the chip... they already have you But I don't have a chip in my arm.Willygrowing old is inevitable, growing up is optional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #10 May 12, 2008 You know, this whole End Times apocalypse thing is never going to get off the ground if you guys won't accept implanted chips.They keep on predicting the end of the world, and then they keep having to push the date back. How the hell is the Antichrist supposed to take over the world if you people won't cooperate? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 May 12, 2008 QuoteBut I don't have a chip in my arm. Are you sure?? Do you have a smallpox scar on your arm? How many innoculations have you gotten?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildWilly 0 #12 May 12, 2008 QuoteQuoteBut I don't have a chip in my arm. Are you sure?? Yes Do you have a smallpox scar on your arm? Yes and they didn't have chips when I got mine. How many innoculations have you gotten?? Haven't had any innoculations in probably 40 years Willygrowing old is inevitable, growing up is optional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #13 May 12, 2008 >Of course I'm not for illegal immigration. That was sorta rhetorical; just an example of how it will be sold. >Still no one is going to stick any kind of chip in my arm. I think it will happen regardless. Some day you'll have diabetes, and your choice will be a blood glucose monitor and IM insulin or an implant. Or the choice will be dialysis or an implant. Or will be an alternative to whatever other medical intervention you need. Such things will pave the way for people to be less nervous about implants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #14 May 12, 2008 This isn't the first we've heard of this subject. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2941918#2941918 My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #15 May 13, 2008 I have not been living in Canada for 12 years now, but I am still pretty sure that most Canadians would rather have their livers pulled out through their noses with a fork than become part of the USA. We appreciate the neighbors and all that, no one hates anyone, but we have no more interest in being American that we do in being Brazilian. We're Canadian - and that is pretty damn good. Now do I see someday when the USA invades and takes over Canada for its natural resources? Absolutely. It would be right in line with the imperialist movements that have gone on since WWII and further back than that. The USA has a global arrogance that Canadians do not want to be associated with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #16 May 13, 2008 Quote I have not been living in Canada for 12 years now, but I am still pretty sure that most Canadians would rather have their livers pulled out through their noses with a fork than become part of the USA. I can understand that, and i can understand why the US people would not like mexico to merge either, but if it means more money for the Rockerfellers/ world bank etc. then it will most likely happen. those super high rollers unfortunately have more clout than any govornment on this planet does. they own govornments, hold them by the balls and twist them to make more money. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #17 May 13, 2008 sad yes, but you are probably right.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MajorDad 0 #18 May 13, 2008 QuoteI have not been living in Canada for 12 years now, but I am still pretty sure that most Canadians would rather have their livers pulled out through their noses with a fork than become part of the USA...... [snip] I kind of like my liver where it is!. However, other than a few individuals for their own reasons, there isnt any burning desire for Canadians to want to join the US of A. Economic Cooperation sure (and even that is touchy at times) but any political party who tried to win any seats on that platform would be winless at the polls. We are neighbors with the US and many Canadians have many friends in the US (especially the skydiving community). However the "I am Canadian" sentiment is very strong with the majority of Canadians and I, for one, will always be a "Canadian". This normally becomes appartent during US Election Years when some Canadian Institutions and things we take for granted are attacked by the various American Politions as herasy and "Socialist". (I laugh cause I am conservitive in my politics). While it may be electioneering politics, I never want to see the Canadian Systems being dismantled as they would enivitably under a political North American Union. Blue Ones Major Dad CSPA D-579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 May 13, 2008 QuoteHowever the "I am Canadian" sentiment is very strong with the majority of Canadians and I, for one, will always be a "Canadian". I don't think the Europeans identify themselves as EU-ers - they're still Brits, Frogs, Germans, Dane, ... So even if such a change were to happen, I don't think this would go away. Look at the various inhabitants of England - centuries later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #20 May 13, 2008 Quote .... I don't think the Europeans identify themselves as EU-ers - they're still Brits, Frogs, Germans, Dane, ... So even if such a change were to happen, I don't think this would go away. Look at the various inhabitants of England - centuries later. Do not hope for too much. We Europeans more and more do think as Europeans, even our roots tell us we're frogs, tommies, the boche's - you name it. Europe comes closer and closer together. Having a look at our youngsters, it clearly shows how easy they deal with various derivations - they do not even notice there are any. It's good like that. 30 yrs ago, a good German father would disposses his daugher if she'd fall in love with a Turkish man. Today, it's not even exotic to have a North American guy as a son-in-law, I mean an Inuit. F. e. We prefer to be Europeans. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 May 13, 2008 QuoteIt's good like that. 30 yrs ago, a good German father would disposses his daugher if she'd fall in love with a Turkish man. That's the decline of racism, rather than a loss of national identity. As I said, try calling a Scot a Brit or English and then run for your life. And it may be a while before the neighbors of Germany completely forget about the past. Many were nervous when the two halves reunited, and will be until those born before 1950 all die off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #22 May 14, 2008 This has been talked about for quite some time now. I sure wouldnt want Canada to become any part of a North American union. Canada has it far better than the USA, and I doubt there is any group wanting to blow Canada off the map like they want to do to the USA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #23 May 14, 2008 QuoteI doubt there is any group wanting to blow Canada off the map like they want to do to the USA I wouldn't just dismiss the Independent Union of Sock Puppeteers so lightly if I were you. They can get pretty nasty, they have a real issue with Canada, and they have access to all sorts of armaments and tequila. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #24 May 14, 2008 Quote Canada has it far better than the USA, and I doubt there is any group wanting to blow Canada off the map like they want to do to the USA. bet the bears have some plan cooked up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
