TheAnvil 0 #1 June 18, 2008 Winnie the Pooh and Luke Skywalker have come to the forefront of the Democratic foreign policy discussion. Hot damn, hot damn, but it's just about the reading level I'd expect from most of those clowns. Bill, I know you read at the level of Foreign Policy, The Economist, & The Wilson Quarterly. But you've got to admit - this is funny (and I know it wasn't Danzig's message in its entirety; he's a three digit IQ). This is too good to pass up. So who will be the next great thinker the left wingers turn to for inspiration on foreign policy? I say it's either Chicken Little or Brave Brave Sir Robin. Bwaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #2 June 18, 2008 Quote So who will be the next great thinker the left wingers turn to for inspiration on foreign policy? Senator Sam Nunn. Bonus question: How many times did he turn down the offer for SecDef before President GW Bush offered it to Donald Rumsfeld? VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #3 June 18, 2008 no fun... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #4 June 18, 2008 Well, to be fair, while democrats do talk a lot of nonsense about Hollywood, republicans elect those same sort of people to positions of power. I mean, we have the Terminator as governor of California and we had the star of Bedtime for Bonzo as president. Heck, this election cycle we had a star of the series Law and Order as a serious contender for president! Who's next? President Vin Diesel? Texas Governor DiCaprio? Secretary of State Will Smith? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 June 18, 2008 Hey at least Will Smith knows how to celebrate the Fourth of July; always with a kick ass movie.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 June 18, 2008 QuoteWell, to be fair, while democrats do talk a lot of nonsense about Hollywood, republicans elect those same sort of people to positions of power. I mean, we have the Terminator as governor of California and we had the star of Bedtime for Bonzo as president. Heck, this election cycle we had a star of the series Law and Order as a serious contender for president! Who's next? President Vin Diesel? Texas Governor DiCaprio? Secretary of State Will Smith? Billvon deflection tactic #1: Find the most outlandish examples possible and ridicule them, thereby showing the OP to be making 'much ado about nothing'.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 June 18, 2008 I absolutely LOVE how the party of distraction can try to spin not just seven years of failed foreign policy but seven years of human rights violations that have caused the world to turn against us . . . into a Democratic party problem. Good going!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #8 June 18, 2008 QuoteI absolutely LOVE how the party of distraction can try to spin not just seven years of failed foreign policy but seven years of human rights violations that have caused the world to turn against us . . . into a Democratic party problem. Good going! Ah, and there's the "It's ALL Bush's Fault" contingent checking in, right on time!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 June 19, 2008 QuoteQuoteI absolutely LOVE how the party of distraction can try to spin not just seven years of failed foreign policy but seven years of human rights violations that have caused the world to turn against us . . . into a Democratic party problem. Good going! Ah, and there's the "It's ALL Bush's Fault" contingent checking in, right on time! When the ship (of state) goes down, it's the captain that is responsible. Or are you admitting GWB is simply a puppet and a stooge? Those really are your only options here. He can either be the guy in charge or the guy that's not in charge. Which is it?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #10 June 19, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI absolutely LOVE how the party of distraction can try to spin not just seven years of failed foreign policy but seven years of human rights violations that have caused the world to turn against us . . . into a Democratic party problem. Good going! Ah, and there's the "It's ALL Bush's Fault" contingent checking in, right on time! When the ship (of state) goes down, it's the captain that is responsible. Or are you admitting GWB is simply a puppet and a stooge? Those really are your only options here. He can either be the guy in charge or the guy that's not in charge. Which is it? *Y'ALL* can't even make up your minds on that issue...why should anyone else?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #11 June 19, 2008 I'll see your Sam Nunn and raise you.... Gov. Bill Richardson!Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #12 June 19, 2008 QuoteWell, to be fair, while democrats do talk a lot of nonsense about Hollywood, republicans elect those same sort of people to positions of power. I mean, we have the Terminator as governor of California and we had the star of Bedtime for Bonzo as president. Heck, this election cycle we had a star of the series Law and Order as a serious contender for president! But is this a flaw of the GOP who gets them elected, or the Democrats in the SAG who fail to (Warren Beatty, Robert Redford) to even try? The common theme of your examples is governor of California, the state that has Hollywood. And of course if Arnold were permitted, he probably would be a presidential candidate. Reagan didn't win because of his movies, and neither would Arnold in such an attempt. Both would be measured on their tenure as head of the state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #13 June 19, 2008 QuoteWell, to be fair, while democrats do talk a lot of nonsense about Hollywood, republicans elect those same sort of people to positions of power. I mean, we have the Terminator as governor of California Yeah, because Gray Davis was just such a visionary...signing the state into billions of debt guaranteed to the utilities because he couldn't manage the energy supply issues of 1999-2001... Honestly, is the "Governator" really doing that badly? He's contended quite well I think given the legislature. Besides, it looks like Jerry Brown might be making another run for the office soon...who knows. Quoteand we had the star of Bedtime for Bonzo as president. Of course, he had real experience as a chief executive as governor of California first...also ended the Cold War...I know...no big deal...detente was so good under President Carter... Quote Heck, this election cycle we had a star of the series Law and Order as a serious contender for president! Of course Sen. Thompson was all this before he became an actor: Congressional Staff Special Counsel, Senate Intelligence Cmte. (1982) Congressional Staff Special Counsel, Senate Foreign Relations Cmte. (1980-81) Tennessee State Official Special Counsel to Gov. Lamar Alexander (1980) US Official Minority Counsel, Watergate Committee (1973-74) US Attorney Assistant US Attorney (1969-72) I know you're kidding around. However, there is a clear distinction between the accomplishments of say, Fred Thompson versus Martin Sheen. ..and there's no comparison in terms of civil conduct...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 June 19, 2008 QuoteAh, and there's the "It's ALL Bush's Fault" contingent checking in, right on time! And then the Supposed Libertarian shows up and does the Defender of the Repubican Realm act for us all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 June 19, 2008 QuoteQuoteAh, and there's the "It's ALL Bush's Fault" contingent checking in, right on time! And then the Supposed Libertarian shows up and does the Defender of the Repubican Realm act for us all. *yawn* I won't go through the whole "lack of condemnation != support" thing again... it's wasted on the 'true believers'. Although the tactics of some sound QUITE familiar....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #16 June 19, 2008 Quote Winnie the Pooh and Luke Skywalker have come to the forefront of the Democratic foreign policy discussion. Hot damn, hot damn, but it's just about the reading level I'd expect from most of those clowns. Bill, I know you read at the level of Foreign Policy, The Economist, & The Wilson Quarterly. But you've got to admit - this is funny (and I know it wasn't Danzig's message in its entirety; he's a three digit IQ). This is too good to pass up. So who will be the next great thinker the left wingers turn to for inspiration on foreign policy? I say it's either Chicken Little or Brave Brave Sir Robin. Bwaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!! On the Republican side the favorite choice of text is clear: The Pet Goat Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #17 June 19, 2008 >Find the most outlandish examples possible . . . Of course. Because electing an actor to be president has NOTHING TO DO with politics, or with how a political party sees Hollywood. But when an Obama aide mentions Luke Skywalker as an example of a hero in a discussion, it's JUST LIKE getting your inspiration from Chicken Little. Bravo Mike! FOX News could use more journalists like yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #18 June 19, 2008 nobody is having any fun in this thread...other than mnealtx so it seems...tsk tsk... at least the Ewoks got a couple of votes! Short power! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #19 June 19, 2008 I'm having fun! I'm chuckling over the thought of republicans lambasting democrats for paying too much attention to Hollywood. Sorta like Al Gore lecturing someone on their home using too much power. Mike, on the other hand, might be having some blood pressure issues . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #20 June 19, 2008 Quote>Find the most outlandish examples possible . . . Of course. Because electing an actor to be president has NOTHING TO DO with politics, or with how a political party sees Hollywood. But when an Obama aide mentions Luke Skywalker as an example of a hero in a discussion, it's JUST LIKE getting your inspiration from Chicken Little. Would that be the actor that was governor of one of the largest states for 8 years, or the actor that had a career as an attorney and as an advisor to Congress before spending 9 years as a US Senator? QuoteBravo Mike! FOX News could use more journalists like yourself. Ah, yes...Billvon deflection tactic #2: Ridicule anyone who disagrees and suggest they get a job with whatever group/organization is being belittled at the time.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 June 19, 2008 QuoteI'm having fun! I'm chuckling over the thought of republicans lambasting democrats for paying too much attention to Hollywood. Sorta like Al Gore lecturing someone on their home using too much power. Mike, on the other hand, might be having some blood pressure issues . . . Very doubtful... I get quite the chuckle out of watching the pretzel-bending that goes on around here...from both sides.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thirdworld19 0 #22 June 19, 2008 QuoteI absolutely LOVE how the party of distraction can try to spin not just seven years of failed foreign policy but seven years of human rights violations that have caused the world to turn against us . . . into a Democratic party problem. Good going! Are you saying that we had no human rights violations before Bush? That would be awfully naive. You don't think the world was against us before Bush? That would be awfully naive. This is not to say that Bush didn't carry it along just as the other presidents, but it certainly didn't originate with the Bush administration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #23 June 19, 2008 QuoteQuoteI absolutely LOVE how the party of distraction can try to spin not just seven years of failed foreign policy but seven years of human rights violations that have caused the world to turn against us . . . into a Democratic party problem. Good going! Are you saying that we had no human rights violations before Bush? That would be awfully naive. You don't think the world was against us before Bush? That would be awfully naive. This is not to say that Bush didn't carry it along just as the other presidents, but it certainly didn't originate with the Bush administration. And if you're saying the levels of human rights violations that have occurred during the 43rd Administration aren't the highest that have occurred since before 1865 by a very wide margin, then you're woefully misinformed.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #24 June 19, 2008 Quote You don't think the world was against us before Bush? That would be awfully naive. I do think that the intensity of resentment against the US has increased under Bush. There is always a level of dislike for the US here in Canada, particularly on the political left. It grown enormously over the last five years or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #25 June 19, 2008 >Would that be the actor . . . I'm talking about the actor who is now an icon in the GOP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
