rushmc 23 #1 August 20, 2008 Univ. of Ill. Won't Release Obama Records Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:00 PM WASHINGTON — The University of Illinois on Tuesday refused to release records relating to Barack Obama's service to a nonprofit group linked to former 1960s radical activist William Ayers. The university's Chicago campus said the donor of the records that document the work of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge has not yet turned over ownership rights to the material. The university is "aggressively pursuing" an agreement with the donor, and as soon as an agreement is finalized, the collection will be made accessible to the public, the university said in a one-paragraph statement. There was no indication when an agreement will be worked out. The university did not identify the donor who it said was concerned that the release not invade personal privacy. There was no immediate comment from the Obama campaign. On Monday, the National Review magazine posted an online article saying that the institution had initially declared that the records were open to inspection, but that the university subsequently reversed its position. On Tuesday, the university said that there had been a misunderstanding about the status of the collection. Ayers is an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago who in his youth co-founded the Weatherman, which espoused violence as a necessity for political change. In the 1990s, Ayers was instrumental in starting the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was awarded nearly $50 million by a foundation to help reform Chicago schools. Obama was the first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and Republicans have been highlighting his ties to Ayers through the group. The Republican National Committee posted the National Review article on the RNC's Web site. In an interview, university spokesman Bill Burton said that the institution only recently was made aware that it did not have ownership, a requirement for making the collection public. The owner notified the university about the absence of a signed ownership agreement last week. "The donor's only concerns regarding the collection are due to personnel information that could include names, confidential salary information and even Social Security numbers," said the university spokesman. Burton, who has no connection to the Obama campaign spokesman with the same name, said he was not authorized to identify the owner. Obama was board chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge for three years starting in 1995 and he remained on the board until the project closed in 2001. The $49.2 million was the largest private gift ever made to Chicago schools. The money went to 250 schools in one of the nation's largest school districts. © 2008 Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #2 August 20, 2008 You must have missed this part: "The university is "aggressively pursuing" an agreement with the donor, and as soon as an agreement is finalized, the collection will be made accessible to the public, the university said in a one-paragraph statement." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #3 August 20, 2008 Quote You must have missed this part: "The university is "aggressively pursuing" an agreement with the donor, and as soon as an agreement is finalized, the collection will be made accessible to the public, the university said in a one-paragraph statement." It is slightly contradictory to this part though: Quote The University of Illinois on Tuesday refused to release records relating to Barack Obama's service to a nonprofit group linked to former 1960s radical activist William Ayers. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 August 20, 2008 What the Fringe Right Wants.. it WANTS it NOW.. no matter who the information belongs to.. or what it takes to get at it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #5 August 20, 2008 Quote Quote You must have missed this part: "The university is "aggressively pursuing" an agreement with the donor, and as soon as an agreement is finalized, the collection will be made accessible to the public, the university said in a one-paragraph statement." It is slightly contradictory to this part though: Quote The University of Illinois on Tuesday refused to release records relating to Barack Obama's service to a nonprofit group linked to former 1960s radical activist William Ayers. No it isn't. Refusing to release something until you have permission from the owner is perfectly correct.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #6 August 20, 2008 Gee, that Walter Annenberg is such a socialist - NOT.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #7 August 20, 2008 QuoteUniv. of Ill. Won't Release Obama Records Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:00 PM ... © 2008 Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. What part of the copyright statement did you not understand?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #8 August 20, 2008 >It is slightly contradictory to this part though: Of course. They are in the business of selling papers, and "The University of Illinois will soon release records relating to Barack Obama's service to a nonprofit group" does not sell papers. But REFUSING to release them? That's a story! Coverup! Arrogance! Scandal! It's a closer race than you thought, so buy that paper and see what's going on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #9 August 20, 2008 QuoteWhat the Fringe Right Wants.. it WANTS it NOW.. no matter who the information belongs to.. or what it takes to get at it. Is there any reason why the Fringe LEFT should want to remain ignorant of their boy's association with violent radicals??Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #10 August 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat the Fringe Right Wants.. it WANTS it NOW.. no matter who the information belongs to.. or what it takes to get at it. Is there any reason why the Fringe LEFT should want to remain ignorant of their boy's association with violent radicals?? Is this more or less what you guys mean by 'drive-by journalism'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #11 August 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat the Fringe Right Wants.. it WANTS it NOW.. no matter who the information belongs to.. or what it takes to get at it. Is there any reason why the Fringe LEFT should want to remain ignorant of their boy's association with violent radicals?? I think I get dumber every time I read things you type. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #12 August 20, 2008 Quote >It is slightly contradictory to this part though: Of course. They are in the business of selling papers, and "The University of Illinois will soon release records relating to Barack Obama's service to a nonprofit group" does not sell papers. But REFUSING to release them? That's a story! Coverup! Arrogance! Scandal! It's a closer race than you thought, so buy that paper and see what's going on! True...I'm not that concerned, as I don't expect there's anything in there that would change my mind anyway...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #13 August 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat the Fringe Right Wants.. it WANTS it NOW.. no matter who the information belongs to.. or what it takes to get at it. Is there any reason why the Fringe LEFT should want to remain ignorant of their boy's association with violent radicals?? Walter Annenberg is a violent radical?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #14 August 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat the Fringe Right Wants.. it WANTS it NOW.. no matter who the information belongs to.. or what it takes to get at it. Is there any reason why the Fringe LEFT should want to remain ignorant of their boy's association with violent radicals?? Walter Annenberg is a violent radical? Please, you know good and well William Ayers is the reason this information is wanted by BO's oponnets.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #15 August 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat the Fringe Right Wants.. it WANTS it NOW.. no matter who the information belongs to.. or what it takes to get at it. Is there any reason why the Fringe LEFT should want to remain ignorant of their boy's association with violent radicals?? Walter Annenberg is a violent radical? Please, you know good and well William Ayers is the reason this information is wanted by BO's oponnets. Walter Annenberg, buddy of Reagan, gives millions of $$ to violent radicals? Say it ain't so!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #16 August 20, 2008 Good Lord. You are the master of deflection. This is about the assocation of Ayers and Obama, not Reagan and Annenberg.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #17 August 20, 2008 QuoteGood Lord. You are the master of deflection. This is about the assocation of Ayers and Obama, not Reagan and Annenberg. Any dirt that sticks to Obama on this sticks more strongly to Annenberg, whose money funded the Chicago Annenberg initiative. And Annenberg was a member of Nixon's administation and a big buddy of Reagan. Trying to "swift boat" someone for working to improve schools is pretty desperate.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 August 20, 2008 Quote Quote Good Lord. You are the master of deflection. This is about the assocation of Ayers and Obama, not Reagan and Annenberg. Any dirt that sticks to Obama on this sticks more strongly to Annenberg, whose money funded the Chicago Annenberg initiative. And Annenberg was a member of Nixon's administation and a big buddy of Reagan. Trying to "swift boat" someone for working to improve schools is pretty desperate. "swift boat" = "the truth" Hard for you to swallow huh... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 August 20, 2008 Quote"swift boat" = "the truth" Hard for you to swallow huh... Based on your support for a failed administration and its policies.... and the SOURCE where you get so much of your "information" I would say you are the master of swallowing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #20 August 20, 2008 Seems like Obama is a lot like Bush....arent a lot of his records sealed too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 August 20, 2008 I dont think Obama's have been EXPUNGED.. and erased yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 August 20, 2008 Quote Seems like Obama is a lot like Bush....arent a lot of his records sealed too? WOW The CDIF type replys are flying here"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #23 August 20, 2008 QuoteI dont think Obama's have been EXPUNGED.. and erased yet. They aren't SEALED either.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #24 August 20, 2008 Quote Quote Seems like Obama is a lot like Bush....arent a lot of his records sealed too? WOW The CDIF type replys are flying here Violated any copyrights today, Marc?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #25 August 20, 2008 Quote WASHINGTON — The University of Illinois on Tuesday refused to release records relating to Barack Obama's service to a nonprofit group linked to former 1960s radical activist William Ayers. Does this service to a non-profit group, which (the group) is linked to a former radical activist really matter? Looks like some people are more concerned in what the politician done in the old past than what he will do if he gets elected.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
