warpedskydiver 0 #1 August 25, 2008 Well, even if you do not want to vote for McCain, who would make him an unbeatable candidate if chosen as his "Very Involved" VP choice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 August 25, 2008 QuoteWell, even if you do not want to vote for McCain, who would make him an unbeatable candidate if chosen as his "Very Involved" VP choice? I don't believe there is any such choice. Same for BHO. I am not sure I think any VP choice for any canidate would help them to any noticable extent. but, I could be wrong. Edited to add; I think either canidate could pick a VP that could hurt then though. Such as Lieberman for McCain. My McCain VP choice would be Duncan Hunter"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 August 25, 2008 QuoteI don't believe there is any such choice. Same for BHO. I am not sure I think any VP choice for any canidate would help them to any noticable extent. but, I could be wrong. Edited to add; I think either canidate could pick a VP that could hurt then though. Such as Lieberman for McCain. Agreed. A VP choice can only help a little and can damage a lot. A VP choice -might- be able to deliver the state he's from (or not), but for the most part nobody votes for the VP. What the VP Choice IS good for is the stump surrogate and plausible deniability by the Presidential candidate on certain trial balloon topics of discussion. He also gets to play the "bulldog" and say things that are a little too negative for the Presidential candidate to say. The VP shouldn't be a "yes" man, although he clearly needs to be on the same basic page, but should at least have the appearance of providing balance in whatever area the Presidential candidate might be somewhat lacking in. He -should- also be somebody the people are going to be "comfortable" with if something tragic happens. I personally don't feel they should ever be considered "bullet stoppers" like Dan Quayle was.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 August 25, 2008 QuoteQuoteI don't believe there is any such choice. Same for BHO. I am not sure I think any VP choice for any canidate would help them to any noticable extent. but, I could be wrong. Edited to add; I think either canidate could pick a VP that could hurt then though. Such as Lieberman for McCain. Agreed. A VP choice can only help a little and can damage a lot. A VP choice -might- be able to deliver the state he's from (or not), but for the most part nobody votes for the VP. What the VP Choice IS good for is the stump surrogate and plausible deniability by the Presidential candidate on certain trial balloon topics of discussion. He also gets to play the "bulldog" and say things that are a little too negative for the Presidential candidate to say. The VP shouldn't be a "yes" man, although he clearly needs to be on the same basic page, but should at least have the appearance of providing balance in whatever area the Presidential candidate might be somewhat lacking in. Nice Post we can agree on some things"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 August 25, 2008 QuoteNice Post we can agree on some things Well, I had predicted McCain as the Republican nominee over a year ago and also at that time said he wouldn't be a bad choice. In fact, I said I'd be willing to cross lines and vote for him depending on the Democratic nominee, so in this particular election . . . don't be too surprised if we agree on a number of things. Not all by any means, but certainly quite a few.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #6 August 25, 2008 No choice would make him unbeatable but I think picking Romney would make the conservative base of the party happy. Picking Lieberman would be a huge mistake IMO. He would make a good cabinet member but not VP.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #7 August 25, 2008 I agree about Lieberman. A McCain/Lieberman ticket would be seen as too Neo-Con- ish. Most Americans have had enough of that. edited: I don't know why people clicked on Ron Paul. No way that's going to happen. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #8 August 25, 2008 The question wasn't whether or not the choice was going to be made. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #9 August 25, 2008 Quote Well, even if you do not want to vote for McCain, who would make him an unbeatable candidate if chosen as his "Very Involved" VP choice? Barack Obama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #10 August 25, 2008 As others have said there is no KO choice. That said I think Huckabee would be a net positive in terms of votes. The bible thumpers are very organized and very good at getting the vote out. i doubt they will be very enthusiastic for McCain. The other point for Huck is that he is genuinely a likeable sort and does very well on TV. No question he would cost the campaign soft supporters but he would force Obama to ramp up his Christian credentials. That sword also cuts both ways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 August 25, 2008 Well, Biden's a pretty safe choice for Obama, so if McCain's smart he'll pick someone with some excitement appeal. Substance is (sadly) irrelevant; gotta go for the product (that goes for either party). So I'm thinking a woman, or a black or Hispanic. Rice is too stilted and nervous a speaker - not a good choice. Hutchinson's female, but she can be strident. McCain & Romney hate each other's guts, mainly because Romney's an asshole and McCain's willing to say it. Elizabeth Dole is too old now (72) and McCain, due to his own age, needs someone younger and perceived as having some vigor to potentially succeed him "in case." If I were advising McCain I don't think I'd pick anyone on your list (so I didn't vote). Either some other woman, or maybe one of the other 12 black Republicans in the country (well, scratch Clarence Thomas, so I guess that'd make it 11). Absent a woman or minority, maybe Tom Ridge (ex-PA governor & ex-Homeland Security director). He's kinda dull, and he's pro-abortion rights, but he's just the right age (63), and he's a decorated Vietnam combat veteran; he also graduated undergrad from Harvard with honors, and is a lawyer. So, on balance, I think Ridge would shore up a ticket that would make crucial swing voters feel that the country is in safe hands. Of course, as a Dem, I'd love to see McCain pick Santorum or Gingrich. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #12 August 26, 2008 HilaryI'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 August 26, 2008 QuoteHilary The mountain climber? He's dead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #14 August 26, 2008 Quote Well, even if you do not want to vote for McCain, who would make him an unbeatable candidate if chosen as his "Very Involved" VP choice? What happened to Gen. Powell. Maybe he got sucked into that lieing about WMD shit?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #15 August 26, 2008 Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska or Ms. Fiorina, his advisor. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 August 26, 2008 Quote Quote Well, even if you do not want to vote for McCain, who would make him an unbeatable candidate if chosen as his "Very Involved" VP choice? What happened to Gen. Powell. Maybe he got sucked into that lieing about WMD shit? Powell would be a good choice, I think, both politically and practically. But from what I've read, his wife suffers from rather severe clinical depression and social anxiety, and has long asked him to keep his hat out of the ring, because she wouldn't be able to handle the public scrutiny of their private lives, or the stress of the experience, and he's complied. So, for that reason, I don't think it's likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #17 August 26, 2008 Kay Bailey HutchisonSpirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 August 26, 2008 QuoteWhat happened to Gen. Powell. Maybe he got sucked into that lieing about WMD shit? He got sucked into the Chickenhawk NEO-CON vortex and was spit out when he finally figured out who they were and what they actually stood for and what they call.. loyalty and honor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #19 August 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat happened to Gen. Powell. Maybe he got sucked into that lieing about WMD shit? He got sucked into the Chickenhawk NEO-CON vortex and was spit out when he finally figured out who they were and what they actually stood for and what they call.. loyalty and honor. While I wouldn't phrase it that way, I agree with the general sentiment. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #20 August 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat happened to Gen. Powell. Maybe he got sucked into that lieing about WMD shit? He got sucked into the Chickenhawk NEO-CON vortex and was spit out when he finally figured out who they were and what they actually stood for and what they call.. loyalty and honor. Substitute Warren Christopher and neo-lib vortex - same thing.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #21 August 26, 2008 QuoteGovernor Sarah Palin of Alaska Yeah, that might be a pretty good choice (look her up). Good overall package of credentials and presentment; but she is a bit young-ish (44). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #22 August 26, 2008 QuoteKay Bailey Hutchison As I said, she can come across as pretty strident, from interviews I've seen of her on the Sunday news talk shows. McCain doesn't need someone who pisses people off. But she's bright, articulate, and at age 65 she's more mature than Sarah Palin, who's only 44. She's from Texas, which doesn't exactly provide geographic "balance" to McCain (Ariz.); but on the other hand, she's a moderate on abortion, and does not think Roe v. Wade should be overturned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Bailey_Hutchinson#Political_views I don't recall seeing Palin speak, so I really don't know how well she comes across. I'll offer that a 65 year-old might be less likely to gaffe on the campaign trail than a 44 year old might be. Also, given that any VP is automatically a heartbeat away from the Presidency, a lot of people would probably be more comfortable with the prospect of a 65 year old woman being (or becoming) President in the midst of a serious national crisis than a 44 year old woman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #23 August 26, 2008 I would think McCain could get a lot of mileage out of Democrat turncoat Joe Lieberman. After all, a Dem who addresses the Republican convention really belongs in THEIR party, except the Dems don't have the 'nads to give Joe the boot like they ought to. On the other hand, the Reps are SO CONCERNED about Hillary Clinton, that maybe they should run with her..... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #24 August 26, 2008 Quote Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska or Ms. Fiorina, his advisor. Senator Obama's education and experience are insufficient, but Palin's BA in journalism, four years as mayor of Wasilla, AK and less than two years as governor of AK is plenty? Perhaps it's her win in the Miss Wasilla beauty pageant that pushed her over the top. That would give us two bachelor degrees on the GOP ticket. One in flying and one in journalism. Brilliant! Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #25 August 26, 2008 Quote Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska - but she is a bit young-ish (44). What's wrong with having a hot MILF for VP? It's like when you go into a restaurant and the seating hostess is gorgeous - the food already tastes better, and you haven't eaten anything It doesn't surprise me that the people of Alaska voted for a hottie former beauty-pageant contestant to be Governor. That's a state full of lonely guys.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites