livendive 8 #476 September 17, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Tell me what budget he has kept balanced, surpluses he has created and most of all what he has given back to the people he serves? Look out! Here comes another lame excuse or a 1 line zinger! Watch your heads! My favorite is the one about we already had 8 years. I don't plan to vote for Bush - right now it's between McCain and Obama (at least where I'm from). McCain is from the same party, pushing the same platform, using the same tactics, with very similar promises. And, well... Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #477 September 17, 2008 QuoteExperience is what you have done, not what you are going to do, so let’s judge her by what she has done as governor since that is not disputable. Kept a balanced budget Has a $5 Billion surplus Gave back $1,200 to every citizen Cut earmarks from the federal government each year by almost half. So tell me again from a budget and economic standpoint what Obama has done? And don't give me the crap that he or any other candidate says that they are going to do. She spent substantially more time as the mayor of Wasilla than she did as the governor of Alaska. What did she do to Wasilla's budget and debt? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #478 September 17, 2008 QuoteSo let me see if I understand, Palin was smart enough to go after revenue that the oil industry should be fairly paying to reduce the cost of government on the people she serves and that is a bad thing? My question is what has Obama done to do the same. So, it's a good thing when Palin effectively increases taxes for businesses, but a bad thing when Obama proposes "eliminating special tax breaks for oil and gas companies" ("including repealing special expensing rules, foreign tax credit benefits, and manufacturing deductions for oil and gas firms"). Perhaps you can explain the consistency in your position, because it certainly isn't obvious.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #479 September 17, 2008 QuoteMy favorite is the one about we already had 8 years. I don't plan to vote for Bush - right now it's between McCain and Obama (at least where I'm from). So, you're okay with Bush's policies, as long as they are implemented by someone else?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #480 September 17, 2008 Quote? “PER CAPITA” has nothing to do with my question and it still stands: Tell me what budget he has kept balanced, surpluses he has created and most of all what he has given back to the people he serves? PER CAPITA has EVERYTHING to do with the relevance of your question. Each Alaskan, under Palin's watch, takes more from the feds than a resident of any other state. DESPITE Alaska's having more natural resources than any other state. MY taxes go to pay for Palin's infrastructure. Infrastructure that Alaskans can well afford to pay for themselves.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #481 September 17, 2008 >Not true, try again. Sorry, it is. http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/22685.html > Is the "bridge" issue really the best shot you have? No - I listed several others, that's just one of her more dishonest statements. Heck, she's STILL building the road to nowhere with your tax dollars! >You know for a fact that since she has been there, earmarks have >been reduced by almost half each year. So her statement that she is against them is a lie? I guess it would be more accurate to say "I like them almost as much as the last governor." >Compared to what Obama wants to do it is nothing. In your words, "let’s judge her by what she has done as governor." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #482 September 17, 2008 [>Kept a balanced budget Not hard in the state with more natural resources (in value) than any other state. ---------------------------------------------------------- resorces that every tree hugger in the rest of the us won't let them touch. i bet they wouldn't need any fed money if they could just tap a little of the resorces. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #483 September 17, 2008 QuoteQuote? “PER CAPITA” has nothing to do with my question and it still stands: Tell me what budget he has kept balanced, surpluses he has created and most of all what he has given back to the people he serves? PER CAPITA has EVERYTHING to do with the relevance of your question. Each Alaskan, under Palin's watch, takes more from the feds than a resident of any other state. DESPITE Alaska's having more natural resources than any other state. MY taxes go to pay for Palin's infrastructure. Infrastructure that Alaskans can well afford to pay for themselves. ---------------------------------------------------------- you right they do get more per person but they do have the largest land mass with the most untouchable resorces in the US Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #484 September 17, 2008 Quote[>Kept a balanced budget Not hard in the state with more natural resources (in value) than any other state. ---------------------------------------------------------- resorces that every tree hugger in the rest of the us won't let them touch. i bet they wouldn't need any fed money if they could just tap a little of the resorces. You mean like they did with their fishery? Just a little love tap there, eh? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #485 September 17, 2008 No, it has no relevance to the question as it has nothing to do with what Obama has or has not done. I guess the reason that you can’t answer the question below is because the answer is NONE. Tell me what government budget Obama has kept balanced, contingency fund he has created and most of all what he has given back to the people he serves?Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #486 September 17, 2008 QuoteSorry, it is. No, it is not and you might want to check what you are using for your reference. Your statement was "gets more money from the US federal government than any other state.". Nowhere in that sentence do you say anything about Per Capita. You addressed that in your next paragraph.Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #487 September 17, 2008 QuoteNo, it has no relevance to the question. ? Does. You only ignore it because it makes your position look really stupid. Which it is. Alaska also gets $1.87 back from the feds for every $1 it sends in taxes. Alaska is subsidized by the rest of us and STILL Palin asks for earmarks.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #488 September 17, 2008 Well if we're going to base it on the image... THIS is all you need to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #489 September 17, 2008 >Your statement was "gets more money from the US federal >government than any other state.". Nowhere in that sentence do you say >anything about Per Capita. Sorry, I was unclear. Most per capita, third most in _absolute_ dollars. (But give her a few more years and I'm sure she could have taken the gold.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #490 September 17, 2008 Quote I don't plan to vote for Bush - right now it's between McCain and Obama (at least where I'm from). No, silly, now it's between Obama and "bush." OK, that was sexist and uncalled for. I take it back, and I apologize. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #491 September 18, 2008 Well don't forget that Biden didn't think Obama was ready to lead and that it would be an honor to serve with or against McCain. And Biden also thinks that HRC was a better choice than him as well for VP. And that Lieberman thinks McCain is a better choice."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #492 September 18, 2008 >Well don't forget that Biden . . . When there are no real replies available, CDIF (BDIF in this case) is always a good fallback. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #493 September 18, 2008 Quoteresorces that every tree hugger in the rest of the us won't let them touch. i bet they wouldn't need any fed money if they could just tap a little of the resorces. Have you ever been to Alaska??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #494 September 18, 2008 I have sexier kneecaps than BOTH of them! JACKASS '08 Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #495 September 18, 2008 Quote I have sexier kneecaps than BOTH of them! JACKASS '08 You should know...you only come UP to their kneecaps, Vinny!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #496 September 18, 2008 no i havent been there. what has that got to do with the ability to tap resorces? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #497 September 18, 2008 Quote>Your statement was "gets more money from the US federal >government than any other state.". Nowhere in that sentence do you say >anything about Per Capita. Sorry, I was unclear. Most per capita, third most in _absolute_ dollars. (But give her a few more years and I'm sure she could have taken the gold.) ---------------------------------------------------------- I dought that because Palin has reduced earmarks bo 50% and total dollars by 35%. seems to be going tj=he wrong way to make your statement true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #498 September 18, 2008 Quote Have you ever been to Alaska??? I want to sooooo bad. I have it in my mind though I am not going to Alaska without leaving with a Kodiak! I am not going there without killin something!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #499 September 18, 2008 QuoteWhen there are no real replies available, CDIF (BDIF in this case) is always a good fallback. It is a great reply. You have a politician saying he does not think someone from his own party is ready to lead. You just want to ignore it since it hurts your candidate."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #500 September 18, 2008 the left never wants to admit they have problems with there people. If Bush is really as bad as everyone thinks, and they still couldn't defeat him in 2004 & 2000, what does that say about the quality of people they are putting on the race? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
