idrankwhat 0 #501 September 18, 2008 Quote I dought that because Palin has reduced earmarks bo 50% and total dollars by 35%. seems to be going tj=he wrong way to make your statement true. Has anyone checked the start date of her earmark reduction campaign with those of the election of a new Congress vowing to eliminate earmarks, a President's sudden and newly founded concern with earmarks and substantial news coverage of Sen Steven's pet pig? Just curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #502 September 18, 2008 QuoteQuote I dought that because Palin has reduced earmarks bo 50% and total dollars by 35%. seems to be going tj=he wrong way to make your statement true. Has anyone checked the start date of her earmark reduction campaign with those of the election of a new Congress vowing to eliminate earmarks (and doing nothing), a President's sudden and newly founded concern with earmarks (and doing nothing to pressure Congress) and substantial news coverage of Sen Steven's pet pig (for those watching things, that's been common knowledge for YEARS)? Just curious.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #503 September 18, 2008 QuoteQuote I dought that because Palin has reduced earmarks bo 50% and total dollars by 35%. seems to be going tj=he wrong way to make your statement true. Has anyone checked the start date of her earmark reduction campaign with those of the election of a new Congress vowing to eliminate earmarks, a President's sudden and newly founded concern with earmarks and substantial news coverage of Sen Steven's pet pig? Just curious. ---------------------------------------------------------- the earmark requests have dropped 50% who cares when it started just be happy it did to bad Obama hasn't started reducing his earmark requests. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #504 September 18, 2008 Quote Has anyone checked the start date of her earmark reduction campaign with those of the election of a new Congress vowing to eliminate earmarks (and doing nothing) Well, to be fair, they did something. They reversed the trend. Earmarks were reduced in number and amount. Just not by very much. And they seem to have put that one on the back burner for now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #505 September 18, 2008 QuoteIf Bush is really as bad as everyone thinks, and they still couldn't defeat him in 2004 & 2000, what does that say about the quality of people they are putting on the race? It says more about the repercussions of so many Americans taking pride in their ignorance, considering those with formal educations "elitist."Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #506 September 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteIf Bush is really as bad as everyone thinks, and they still couldn't defeat him in 2004 & 2000, what does that say about the quality of people they are putting on the race? It says more about the repercussions of so many Americans taking pride in their ignorance, considering those with formal educations "elitist." -------------------------------------------------------- and remember the "formal eduacaters" are left leaning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #507 September 18, 2008 QuoteQuote>Your statement was "gets more money from the US federal >government than any other state.". Nowhere in that sentence do you say >anything about Per Capita. Sorry, I was unclear. Most per capita, third most in _absolute_ dollars. (But give her a few more years and I'm sure she could have taken the gold.) ---------------------------------------------------------- I dought that because Palin has reduced earmarks bo 50% and total dollars by 35%. seems to be going tj=he wrong way to make your statement true. I already asked you once, how did she do in Wasilla? I think you'll find a substantial growth in spending and a huge growth in debt. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #508 September 18, 2008 QuoteIf Bush is really as bad as everyone thinks, and they still couldn't defeat him in 2004 & 2000, what does that say about the quality of people they are putting on the race? You raise a good point, but it also says something about the quality of voters. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #509 September 18, 2008 Not like the lawsuit against the city over what was initially a $140,000 property purchase had much impact on that, I'm sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #510 September 18, 2008 >It is a great reply. Of course you think it is. The only way you can support your own candidate is to try to pull down the others. "Sure, McCain and Palin suck. But Obama sucks MORE!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #511 September 18, 2008 Quoteand remember the "formal eduacaters" are left leaning. Interesting that you believe ideology is more important than knowledge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #512 September 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhen there are no real replies available, CDIF (BDIF in this case) is always a good fallback. It is a great reply. You have a politician saying he does not think someone from his own party is ready to lead. You just want to ignore it since it hurts your candidate. What was it that Bush's campaign said about McCain in 2000? Something about his time as a POW rendering him too unstable to have access to nuclear weapons, fathering a child with a black prostitute, etc? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #513 September 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteand remember the "formal eduacaters" are left leaning. Interesting that you believe ideology is more important than knowledge. That's 'cuz knowledge is evil! No questions! Only faith! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #514 September 18, 2008 Quote the left never wants to admit they have problems with there people. If Bush is really as bad as everyone thinks, and they still couldn't defeat him in 2004 & 2000, what does that say about the quality of people they are putting on the race? The only current candidate who was also running in 2000 or 2004 is MCCAIN. So your question really is what does that say about McCain?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #515 September 18, 2008 the budget did got up but she eliminated property taxes. the town was growing and needed funding to pay for the expansion. the town grew 25% while she was mayor and that means more infrastructure, police, and other things needed for the population. did you expect the budget to go down in a growing town? the waste went down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #516 September 18, 2008 >that means more infrastructure, police, and other things needed for the population. Cool, so you support a larger government with ever-higher expenses. (After all, the US is growing too.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #517 September 18, 2008 QuoteThe only current candidate who was also running in 2000 or 2004 is MCCAIN. So your question really is what does that say about McCain? In the 2000 GOP debates, Bush was the LEAST articulate of the entire nine candidates, yet he stood there with a silly smirk the whole time. Why? He was the annointed one, and he knew it. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #518 September 18, 2008 Quote Not like the lawsuit against the city over what was initially a $140,000 property purchase had much impact on that, I'm sure. You realize the city was the plaintiff and filed an eminent domain lawsuit against the property owner, right? And that the city, if they were smart, could have bought the property outright for $125,000 in 1998? And that none of this gives Palin a free pass for having dramatically increased spending and leaving the city 20 million dollars in debt? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #519 September 18, 2008 Quote the budget did got up but she eliminated property taxes. the town was growing and needed funding to pay for the expansion. the town grew 25% while she was mayor and that means more infrastructure, police, and other things needed for the population. did you expect the budget to go down in a growing town? the waste went down. She did cut property taxes, she also raised sales taxes. The budget she inherited was $8.2M. The budget she handed off to her successor 6 years laster was $18.6M. That's a 127% increase in spending for your touted 25% increase in population, not to mention the $20M debt she also incurred. Yeah, she's a real fiscal conservative. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #520 September 18, 2008 i do not condone waste. that is what Palin has eliminated is a lot of waste. and sewers, raods and police are not something you or anyone can do without. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #521 September 18, 2008 wow...it's like deja vu all over again...only it's Obama with the smirk this time around... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #522 September 18, 2008 > i do not condone waste. No one does. >that is what Palin has eliminated is a lot of waste. Well, she expanded the Wasilla government massively, much faster than the population. If she "cut the waste" while she was doing that, then the actual bloating of the local government was larger still. Are you OK with her doing something similar in the US government? >and sewers, raods and police are not something you or anyone can do without. Uh, have you ever _been_ to Wasilla? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #523 September 18, 2008 no have you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #524 September 18, 2008 >no have you? Yep, several times. It's where the Solstice Boogie was held (which is sadly no more.) Some pictures from the 2003 boogie there: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1126812;search_string=solstice;#1126812 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #525 September 18, 2008 beautifull place. alway wanted to go to that boogie, just never had the timing work out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites