livendive 8 #626 September 22, 2008 Quote only in your eyes and a few others from the far left I don't think most people would consider me "the far left." I'm ready for a leader who acts like one. A leader who doesn't say stupid shit like, "Bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran" on camera. A President who makes me proud rather than embarasses me. Obama ain't perfect for me on policy stuff, he's just less unattractive than McCain. But on character and leadership ability, I'd consider him FAR better than McCain. Remember what McCain did to his first wife? How's that for character? On the leadership end of things, I'll admit that I don't think McCain would be as awful as Bush, but does ANYONE believe that fake smile of his?! It's almost as bad as that smirk of Bush's. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #627 September 23, 2008 QuoteQuote only in your eyes and a few others from the far left I don't think most people would consider me "the far left." I'm ready for a leader who acts like one. A leader who doesn't say stupid shit like, "Bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran" on camera. A President who makes me proud rather than embarasses me. Obama ain't perfect for me on policy stuff, he's just less unattractive than McCain. But on character and leadership ability, I'd consider him FAR better than McCain. Remember what McCain did to his first wife? How's that for character? On the leadership end of things, I'll admit that I don't think McCain would be as awful as Bush, but does ANYONE believe that fake smile of his?! It's almost as bad as that smirk of Bush's. Blues, Dave well if Obama gets elected i hope he is better at taking care of us than he helps his half brother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #628 September 23, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote only in your eyes and a few others from the far left I don't think most people would consider me "the far left." I'm ready for a leader who acts like one. A leader who doesn't say stupid shit like, "Bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran" on camera. A President who makes me proud rather than embarasses me. Obama ain't perfect for me on policy stuff, he's just less unattractive than McCain. But on character and leadership ability, I'd consider him FAR better than McCain. Remember what McCain did to his first wife? How's that for character? On the leadership end of things, I'll admit that I don't think McCain would be as awful as Bush, but does ANYONE believe that fake smile of his?! It's almost as bad as that smirk of Bush's. Blues, Dave well if Obama gets elected i hope he is better at taking care of us than he helps his half brother. Given that I haven't talked to my own half-brother in over 20 years, and I don't expect Obama to "take care of me", I'm not too worried about it. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #629 September 23, 2008 Quote well if Obama gets elected i hope he is better at taking care of us than he helps his half brother. Hey.. where is all that much vaunted rePUBICan personal responsibility?? How about taking care of yourself and not expecting the government to take care of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #630 September 23, 2008 Quote Quote well if Obama gets elected i hope he is better at taking care of us than he helps his half brother. Hey.. where is all that much vaunted rePUBICan personal responsibility?? How about taking care of yourself and not expecting the government to take care of you. I don't expect any help nor do i want any from the government. just thought it was funny / and sad that on the radio show I was listening to they were taking up a collection for Obama's half brother and had raised well over $2,000 in a matter of minutes, to send to Obama's brother. then they talked about Obama saying how we should take care family and the less fortunate and it was our duty to do this, but they questioned if Obama really believed in what he was telling us because he hasn't even, at any time, helped his brother, or practiced what he preached with his own family. then they covered donations and reported biden's donations at about $300 a year, Obama's was a little over 6% last year and McCain donated over 23$ of his salery last year. I do believe in giving a helping hand to those that need it, but only when they try to help themselves. I have donated several thousand dollars in the last couple years to my local community and I am a little guy. makes me feel sad that the people that want us to be Patiotic and support those in need have given very little themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #631 September 23, 2008 >Obama's was a little over 6% $60,307 in 2006, $240,000 in 2007. Gotta get better information. >I have donated several thousand dollars in the last couple years to >my local community and I am a little guy. That's great! You may not be able to donate as much as Obama does, but every little bit helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #632 September 23, 2008 Quote>Obama's was a little over 6% $60,307 in 2006, $240,000 in 2007. Gotta get better information. >I have donated several thousand dollars in the last couple years to >my local community and I am a little guy. That's great! You may not be able to donate as much as Obama does, but every little bit helps. so since Obama earned $991,000 in 2006 and gave $60,000 that would be slightly over 6% just like reported Year Total income Gifts to charity Federal taxes 2000 $240,726 $2,350 $63,732 2001 $275,123 $1,470 $86,072 2002 $260,824 $1,050 $68,958 2003 $238,327 $3,400 $51,856 2004 $207,647 $2,500 $40,426 2005 $1,670,995 $77,315 $545,614 2006 $991,296 $60,307 $277,431 suprisinly the donations didn't increase till he started to run for president. must have wanted to look good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #633 September 23, 2008 >suprisinly the donations didn't increase till he started to run for >president make more money. Fixed it for you. Ask yourself why you don't donate $60K a year to charity, and perhaps you will see why he ONLY donated $60K. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #634 September 23, 2008 Quote .... Remember what McCain did to his first wife? How's that for character? On the leadership end of things, I'll admit that I don't think McCain would be as awful as Bush, but does ANYONE believe that fake smile of his?! It's almost as bad as that smirk of Bush's. Yes, it is. But, I think this is much more a question of his 3rd teeth (or 4th?) What did he do to his first wife? Tell me first hand, pls. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #635 September 23, 2008 Quotesuprisinly the donations didn't increase till he started to run for president. must have wanted to look good It couldn't have been because the Obamas ( I believe they file jointly) were making quite a bit more money, instead of just wanting to look good? in 05, they made 200k, the next year they made 1.6mI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #636 September 23, 2008 come on only 6% ? its time to step up, it's time to be patriotic, lets get with it, it's our duty. (as Biden said) Before 2006 i donated more making 30% of what Obama made. what he donated was probably close to the max amount for his church to operate (don't know who he gave to) not for people that needed help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #637 September 23, 2008 >come on only 6%? Twice the national average. $60K, on the other hand, is $1600 - so he donates 37 times as much as your average american, even during the year you are mocking him for donating too little. >Before 2006 i donated more making 30% of what Obama made. How many kids/student loans did you have? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #638 September 23, 2008 Quote>come on only 6%? Twice the national average. $60K, on the other hand, is $1600 - so he donates 37 times as much as your average american, even during the year you are mocking him for donating too little. >Before 2006 i donated more making 30% of what Obama made. How many kids/student loans did you have? 2 kids in college (one paid for by the person that ran her over with a car) the other the first $20,000 i paid the next 45,000 still working on paying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #639 September 24, 2008 Quoteso since Obama earned $991,000 in 2006 and gave $60,000 that would be slightly over 6% just like reported Year Total income Gifts to charity Federal taxes 2000 $240,726 $2,350 $63,732 2001 $275,123 $1,470 $86,072 2002 $260,824 $1,050 $68,958 2003 $238,327 $3,400 $51,856 2004 $207,647 $2,500 $40,426 2005 $1,670,995 $77,315 $545,614 2006 $991,296 $60,307 $277,431 suprisinly the donations didn't increase till he started to run for president. must have wanted to look good Why do I suspect that if we were talking about how much the US spends on foreign aid (e.g. natural disaster relief) compared to other countries, you would be one of the first ones to argue that the US is generous because we spend the most in absolute dollars?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
