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QuoteQuote[Edited to add that I never got this answered and would like an answer from the pro-
abortionCHOICE crowd
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Fixed it for you. That was a very lame attempt to disparage those who disagree with you.
No I said it right, you are either pro (for) abortion or anti (against) abortion.
No, not really. I don't encourage abortions, but I stand for the right to choose if you want one or not. It's entirely different.
QuoteQuoteLife starts with conception.
Even if it does, so what? It still has no feelings about its own life, no knowledge of its existence. It has NOTHING, other than a little more potential, to separate it from any other two cells with half a set of chromosomes each. So early termination of a pregnancy isn't causing it any kind of pain. Life, for life's sake in that case, isn't sacred, imho.
linz
Do you think that a newborn that is thrown in a dumpster and dies within an hour truely has "knowledge of its own existance"?
LOFL at comparing a zygote to a newborn baby!
You're kidding, right?
klingeme 1
QuoteQuoteQuote[Edited to add that I never got this answered and would like an answer from the pro-
abortionCHOICE crowd
?
Fixed it for you. That was a very lame attempt to disparage those who disagree with you.
No I said it right, you are either pro (for) abortion or anti (against) abortion.
No, not really. I don't encourage abortions, but I stand for the right to choose if you want one or not. It's entirely different.
You are either for (pro) someone's right to have an abortion or against (Anti) that right.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote[Edited to add that I never got this answered and would like an answer from the pro-
abortionCHOICE crowd
?
Fixed it for you. That was a very lame attempt to disparage those who disagree with you.
No I said it right, you are either pro (for) abortion or anti (against) abortion.
No, not really. I don't encourage abortions, but I stand for the right to choose if you want one or not. It's entirely different.
You are either for (pro) someone's right to have an abortion or against (Anti) that right.
That's not what you said. You said FOR ABORTION, not for the RIGHT to have an abortion if you choose.
Are you not seeing the difference between the two?
Lindsey 0
QuoteQuoteLife starts with conception.
Even if it does, so what? It still has no feelings about its own life, no knowledge of its existence. It has NOTHING, other than a little more potential, to separate it from any other two cells with half a set of chromosomes each. So early termination of a pregnancy isn't causing it any kind of pain. Life, for life's sake in that case, isn't sacred, imho.
linz
Do you think that a newborn that is thrown in a dumpster and dies within an hour truely has "knowledge of its own existance"?
Killing a newborn is not early termination of a pregnancy. There are a lot of qualities that a newborn has that separate it from any other two cells with half a set of chromosomes each. And yes it has knowledge of its own existence. It feels. It has a brain.
linz
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klingeme 1
QuoteQuoteQuoteLife starts with conception.
Even if it does, so what? It still has no feelings about its own life, no knowledge of its existence. It has NOTHING, other than a little more potential, to separate it from any other two cells with half a set of chromosomes each. So early termination of a pregnancy isn't causing it any kind of pain. Life, for life's sake in that case, isn't sacred, imho.
linz
Do you think that a newborn that is thrown in a dumpster and dies within an hour truely has "knowledge of its own existance"?
LOFL at comparing a zygote to a newborn baby!
You're kidding, right?
It's a matter of degree. Tell me what magical thing happens that makes it a life. Is is when the heart starts beating, is it when you can see little arms and legs, is it when it can survive outside of the mother with assistance of a ventilator(premie), is is when it can survive outside of the mother without any assistace other than the mother?
To me I can tell you the "magical" moment life starts and that is conception.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteLife starts with conception.
Even if it does, so what? It still has no feelings about its own life, no knowledge of its existence. It has NOTHING, other than a little more potential, to separate it from any other two cells with half a set of chromosomes each. So early termination of a pregnancy isn't causing it any kind of pain. Life, for life's sake in that case, isn't sacred, imho.
linz
Do you think that a newborn that is thrown in a dumpster and dies within an hour truely has "knowledge of its own existance"?
LOFL at comparing a zygote to a newborn baby!
You're kidding, right?
It's a matter of degree. Tell me what magical thing happens that makes it a life. Is is when the heart starts beating, is it when you can see little arms and legs, is it when it can survive outside of the mother with assistance of a ventilator(premie), is is when it can survive outside of the mother without any assistace other than the mother?
To me I can tell you the "magical" moment life starts and that is conception.
You're confusing "life" with "baby". A group of fetal cells that are a week old are alive, but they are not a baby.
edit to add: but that's just my opinion on the matter
rehmwa 2
QuoteTo me I can tell you the "magical" moment life starts and that is conception.
I think it's actually once they leave college and get a real job and move out and have to pay their own way. But that's just one opinion. So most anyone under 30 isn't really mostly there yet.
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Darius11 12
No one has proof of when a humane life starts. If you wish to value all cells as life then I killed life when I had a mole removed from my ass.
You don’t know when life starts you might think you know but there is no proof for anyone.
So for something that none of us are clear on, I believe the person it effects the most the would be mom should have the decision to do what SHE wishes.
If you believe what you believe because of religion that’s great however we do not live in a monarchy so your religious choices should be personal and not law.
If you do have proof of when a life becomes humane life, please share you could solve this debate that has been going on for decades.
You don’t know when life starts you might think you know but there is no proof for anyone.
So for something that none of us are clear on, I believe the person it effects the most the would be mom should have the decision to do what SHE wishes.
If you believe what you believe because of religion that’s great however we do not live in a monarchy so your religious choices should be personal and not law.
If you do have proof of when a life becomes humane life, please share you could solve this debate that has been going on for decades.
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jcd11235 0
QuoteQuote[Edited to add that I never got this answered and would like an answer from the pro-
abortionCHOICE crowd
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Fixed it for you. That was a very lame attempt to disparage those who disagree with you.
No I said it right, you are either pro (for) abortion or anti (against) abortion.
Perhaps, but that would mean that many anti-abortion people are pro-choice, simply because they do not presume themselves qualified to make value statements for others.
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QuoteQuote[Edited to add that I never got this answered and would like an answer from the pro-
abortionCHOICE crowd
?
Fixed it for you. That was a very lame attempt to disparage those who disagree with you.
No I said it right, you are either pro (for) abortion or anti (against) abortion.
That is simply untrue and a deliberate and unethical misrepresentation.
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Do you think that a newborn that is thrown in a dumpster and dies within an hour truely has "knowledge of its own existance"?
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