Should abortion be allowed in cases of rape or incest?

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I believe that something with arms (to be ripped off) and legs (also to be ripped off) and removed (with a glorified vacume cleaner) is alive enough to not be killed.

What about a shapeless mass of cells?

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I believe that something with arms (to be ripped off) and legs (also to be ripped off) and removed (with a glorified vacume cleaner) is alive enough to not be killed.

What about a shapeless mass of cells?

A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process.

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In other words, you are either pro-choice or anti-choice.

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I believe that something with arms (to be ripped off) and legs (also to be ripped off) and removed (with a glorified vacume cleaner) is alive enough to not be killed.

Wait, I'm confused. You said that "life" (i.e., a baby) begins at conception. Now you're saying that if it has arms and legs it's alive enough to not be killed. So what about before that?

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In other words, you are either pro-choice or anti-choice.

Blues,
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I believe that something with arms (to be ripped off) and legs (also to be ripped off) and removed (with a glorified vacume cleaner) is alive enough to not be killed.

What about a shapeless mass of cells?

A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process.

In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby?

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In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby?

That goes without saying. :)

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In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby?

That goes without saying. :)

I wasn't asking you.

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In other words, you are either pro-choice or anti-choice.

Blues,
Dave

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I'm appalled and sickened by these people. My cousin was raped and it was the most traumatic experience in her life. Now they want to force their morals on her. How easy it is for them to force their will and beliefs on others lives and yet, I would bet these same individuals would go ape shit if you just mentioned gun control.

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In other words, you are either pro-choice or anti-choice.

Blues,
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I have not probem with being called Anti Choice, Anti Abortion, or Pro Life. Why do Pro Abortion, Pro Choice, or Anti Life (No one uses this one) have a problem with being called any one of these.

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I believe that something with arms (to be ripped off) and legs (also to be ripped off) and removed (with a glorified vacume cleaner) is alive enough to not be killed.

What about a shapeless mass of cells?

A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process.

In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby?

And is a newborn truely a person, so if you throw them in a dumpster, and they never develop a personality, or emotions.......

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This is actually one of the only "conservative" issues I stand behind. I think Gays should be able to marry, and I don't think anyone should own an assault rifle. I just have a concrete definition of when life starts, and in my book, ending a life is murder.

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I believe that something with arms (to be ripped off) and legs (also to be ripped off) and removed (with a glorified vacume cleaner) is alive enough to not be killed.

What about a shapeless mass of cells?

A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process.

In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby?

And is a newborn truely a person, so if you throw them in a dumpster, and they never develop a personality, or emotions.......

That did not answer my question. At all.

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In other words, you are either pro-choice or anti-choice.

Blues,
Dave

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This is actually one of the only "conservative" issues I stand behind. I think Gays should be able to marry, and I don't think anyone should own an assault rifle. I just have a concrete definition of when life starts, and in my book, ending a life is murder.

Not much interested in the US Constitution are ya?

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No one has proof of when a humane (sic) life starts.

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So for something that none of us are clear on, I believe the person it effects the most the would be mom should have the decision to do what SHE wishes.

And here is example #2...

If no one knows when human life (i.e. a baby) actually begins, it's awfully balsy to allow for abortion to occur under any circumstance. It behooves those who wish to procur an abortion or who wish to sustain abortion rights to ensure they are NOT terminating the life of a human life. And viability is a red herring b/c the line of viability has changed and continues to change with advances in technology.

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I believe that something with arms (to be ripped off) and legs (also to be ripped off) and removed (with a glorified vacume cleaner) is alive enough to not be killed.

What about a shapeless mass of cells?

A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process.

In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby?

And is a newborn truely a person, so if you throw them in a dumpster, and they never develop a personality, or emotions.......

That did not answer my question. At all.

Is it truely a baby 1 day before it is born, and should abortions be legal then?

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This is actually one of the only "conservative" issues I stand behind. I think Gays should be able to marry, and I don't think anyone should own an assault rifle. I just have a concrete definition of when life starts, and in my book, ending a life is murder.

Not much interested in the US Constitution are ya?

Why stop at assault rifles, how about making your own nuclear weapon?

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No one has proof of when a humane (sic) life starts.

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So for something that none of us are clear on, I believe the person it effects the most the would be mom should have the decision to do what SHE wishes.

And here is example #2...

If no one knows when human life (i.e. a baby) actually begins, it's awfully balsy to allow for abortion to occur under any circumstance. It behooves those who wish to procur an abortion or who wish to sustain abortion rights to ensure they are NOT terminating the life of a human life. And viability is a red herring b/c the line of viability has changed and continues to change with advances in technology.

to take this further, a newborn can not live without assistance, so by that rationelle, the newborn and the dumpster is still alright......hense pro choice.....it'll be too much of a burden on me.....i have the right to choose.

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I believe that something with arms (to be ripped off) and legs (also to be ripped off) and removed (with a glorified vacume cleaner) is alive enough to not be killed.

What about a shapeless mass of cells?

A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process.

In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby?

And is a newborn truely a person, so if you throw them in a dumpster, and they never develop a personality, or emotions.......

That did not answer my question. At all.

Is it truely a baby 1 day before it is born, and should abortions be legal then?

Still don't want to answer eh? It's simply yes or no.

You said a SHAPELESS MASS OF CELLS (NOT a baby 1 day before it's born) is a "baby is process".

If you stop that process when it's a "shapeless mass of cells", does it never become a baby?

The funny part is that you keep avoiding the obvious answer. The even more funny part is that you contradicted yourself and don't want to admit it.

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It behooves those who wish to procur an abortion or who wish to sustain abortion rights to ensure they are NOT terminating the life of a human life.

A big problem with that argument is that whether it's a human life or not just isn't the issue for many. Your belief that human life is sacred, even when it's no more than a clump of cells, isn't shared by all. Your religious beliefs (if that's what forms the basis for your opinion here) has no bearing on me and shouldn't be the basis for laws that affect decisions about me and my body.

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I have not probem with being called Anti Choice, Anti Abortion, or Pro Life. Why do Pro Abortion, Pro Choice, or Anti Life (No one uses this one) have a problem with being called any one of these.

If A then B does not imply if B then A.

Roe v. Wade is not about being pro-abortion or anti-abortion. It is about having the choice available to females who find themselves in the difficult situation of an unwanted pregnancy. Not everyone who favors the choice be made by individuals favors all the choices available. They don't have to support abortion to recognize that it is not their choice to make until they find themselves in the same situation.

Pro-choice does not imply pro-abortion. Anti-abortion does not imply anti-choice.

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Ronald Reagan was personally opposed to some things, but yet he chose to adhere to the law, and not let his own personal convictions cloud his judgment.

Now that's the sign of a true politician. Unfortunately, we don't see enough of that kind of conviction.

You got that sort of right - Reagan was a true politician alright, one of the more talented ones. But that crap above about how he obeyed the law over his personal convictions - a nice fantasy.