TheAnvil 0 #51 September 4, 2008 I'm looking oh so forward to the debates. She did a splendid job and I'm quite pleased. Now if we can just get them elected... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #52 September 4, 2008 Quote So she tells us: How she likes men in uniform. Spends forever talking about her family, yawn... Use disabled kid to appeal to other disabled parents. Hi mom and dad. She likes hockey mums (i dig this, some of them mum are hot). She was in the PTA (great this will really help her run the country). Cheap shots at Obama, nothing about policy. "John McCain is the same man" (McSame ?) Thinks she is going to Washington. She likes to drive herself to work. She wants to drill drill drill. More negative against Obama, nothing of substance and to why we should vote for her. Tearjerking references to McCain in prison and how prison experience will help run the country. A speech of soundbytes. Nothing of value, but she does have nice jugs (not well presented tonight), but not the person to run the country if McCain kicks the bucket (statistically he should die around the end of his presidency) It is a good day to be a democrat. As political convention speeches go, I thought she did quite well.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #53 September 4, 2008 Quote I'm looking oh so forward to the debates. She did a splendid job and I'm quite pleased. Now if we can just get them elected... I'll bet more people tuned in for that speech than any other in either of the conventions. Maybe that was the plan all along Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #54 September 4, 2008 As an aside, MSNBC just started re-running her speech a couple of minutes ago. Edited to add: it ain't the same since Russert died. I would have really enjoyed his commentary. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #55 September 4, 2008 Quote>Alot of talk about patriotism...we know how that makes you liberals squirm. When a secessionist talks about patriotism, well - it's sorta like listening to Al Sharpton talk about ending racism. Makes me laugh. The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s secession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin had been a member of the group. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/us/politics/03party.html?ref=politicsPlease don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #56 September 4, 2008 QuoteLiberals are liberals...I didn't say anything about party. Indeed! From infoplease.com Quotelib•er•al Pronunciation: (lib'ur-ul, lib'rul), —adj. 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs. 2. noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform. con•serv•a•tive Pronunciation: (kun-sûr'vu-tiv), —adj. 1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change. And from a recent political speech: QuoteAmericans expect us to go to Washington for the right reason . . . The right reason is to challenge the status quo, to serve the common good and to leave this nation better than we found it. I'll leave the analysis up to the reader. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #57 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteLiberals are liberals...I didn't say anything about party. Indeed! From infoplease.com Quotelib•er•al Pronunciation: (lib'ur-ul, lib'rul), —adj. 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs. 2. noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform. con•serv•a•tive Pronunciation: (kun-sûr'vu-tiv), —adj. 1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change. And from a recent political speech: QuoteAmericans expect us to go to Washington for the right reason . . . The right reason is to challenge the status quo, to serve the common good and to leave this nation better than we found it. I'll leave the analysis up to the reader. Blues, Dave Absolutely...challenge the liberal status quo that exists today.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #58 September 4, 2008 I mostly agree with you. She has that down-home, friendly sort of humor that people can relate to. I'm pretty sure that's what got Bush elected. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #59 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteLiberals are liberals...I didn't say anything about party. Indeed! From infoplease.com Quotelib•er•al Pronunciation: (lib'ur-ul, lib'rul), —adj. 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs. 2. noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform. con•serv•a•tive Pronunciation: (kun-sûr'vu-tiv), —adj. 1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change. And from a recent political speech: QuoteAmericans expect us to go to Washington for the right reason . . . The right reason is to challenge the status quo, to serve the common good and to leave this nation better than we found it. I'll leave the analysis up to the reader. Blues, Dave Absolutely...challenge the liberal status quo that exists today. You DO realize that doing so would make you.........LIBERAL? According to the above definition, at least. Careful what you wish for...Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #60 September 4, 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The same man he's always been does not reference McSame as you mean it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you realize the distinction. No, it means the same as Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #61 September 4, 2008 Quote Quote Political speeches can be like that. When Obama made his speech, it was all about how he was going to do just simply evereeething. He would do it for free and everyone would be happy. The general consensus was, "how do you do everything for everybody and it is free?" Speeches are just politics and promises. It's a little early for her to start promising. However, it is a nice contrast from the Screeching Blue Banshee. Ever wonder if her handlers had some kind of practical joke going on? "Ok, tonight we'll have her dress in the Blue Robot Dress. However, to offset the robot-look, we'll have her flash the botox-dead-nerve smile-of-the-dead." Hillaryous. Obama was a bit over the top, but he did kindof explain how he was going to pay for things, but lacked details. For me comparing the two the biggest difference was that Obama's speech was about what he would do and why you should vote for him. Palin's was more about why you shouldn't vote for the other side. Precisely. If you have no substance, then you have to devalue the other side's substance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #62 September 4, 2008 ...>>>>>>>She's even tougher than Dick Cheney! Tougher than a fat heart attack voctim in the making? >>>>>>>>>>>Prettier, more likeable, and most importantly she's better with a shotgun. Neccessary to add prettier than Cheney? And more likeable than Mr. Death warmed over? Insightful post my friend. Are we sure we need to use Cheney as a standard for success, Cheney has I think the lowest approval rating of any VP. >>>>>>>>>>>>>She's gonna do a great job of assisting McCain in kicking both Obama's and Biden's asses in the next couple of months and exposing the typical Marxist lies. With Hitleresque lies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #63 September 4, 2008 Quote Quote i thought her speech was quite good. i didn't much care for all the person stuff in the beginning but you know, it was quite nice to hear the rebutt her opponents by describing that she actually HAS executive experience whereas obama and biden have ... zero. say it w/ me people.... zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero She definitely impressed me. As a VP nominee, she earmarks everything Obama is not. Yes, what Obama is not..... a VP candidate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #64 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuote>She's tougher than Dick Cheney, prettier, more likeable, and >most importantly she's probably better with a shotgun. It would not surprise me at all if those really are the primary qualifications for many Americans. "Yeah, she's not all that experienced, and she's under investigation for abuse of power. But boy is she cute." You have to admit she is cute for a VP. Personally I wouldn't vote for her for this reason alone, but you can imagine that some people wood :) She's a VP candidate and for a Vp candidate? What do we compare her to, Ferraro? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #65 September 4, 2008 QuoteWell, I was making a feeble attempt at humor, but you're right, I'm sure a lot of folks place a lot of weight on looks. "Pretty" is one of the main reasons Obama is still in the race. Guilianni and Palin both kicked off the next two months by picking a great fight. Gonna be fun to watch it unfold. I can't wait to see the debates. For a presidential or senatorial election, do you really think people are drawn to beauty? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #66 September 4, 2008 QuoteAlot of talk about patriotism...we know how that makes you liberals squirm. Just different definitions. Liberals think patriotism is measured in how you help all people, lower debt, make education and helathcare more available. Neo-cons measure it in terms of spending more on teh military and invading more countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #67 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe only problem I have with her is that she is on the same ticket as McSame... Repubs have had the last 8 years to fuck up this country. I vote to let another party have a shot at it. I do like Palin, but am so sick of the Repubs eletist, self centered bull shi%$# ! Sorry, but look at our economical position and our world standing and tell me you can justify another 4-8 years of this crap. if you think that mccain is the same as bush, then you've bought into the bullshit. mccain is about as different from bush as you can get and still have as "r" next to your name. And yet voted 95% with Bush....... as close to the same as you can get Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #68 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote She absolutely kicked ass......... Indeed. If she speaks half as well in debates as she did in this teleprompter speech, her opponents will be in trouble. My bet is that they're very concerned right now. Agreed. I get the feeling Biden's gonna get his balls busted. The guy is a career politician, this would be like you going before a judge opposing a 30-year trial lawyer. Get real. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #69 September 4, 2008 QuoteIf McCain votes with conservatives 95% of the time, I think its fantastic. But, this thread is about VP nominee Sarah Palin. I feel certain she will be a conservative leader and vote that way 100 % of the time. So yes, I'm happy. And Biden's gonna get his ass handed to him on a silver platter during the debates. As I just replied to another poster, how is a newby to Washington gonna stand a chance to a career politician? It's nice to think David can beat Golliah (sp), but is it realistic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #70 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote She absolutely kicked ass......... Indeed. If she speaks half as well in debates as she did in this teleprompter speech, her opponents will be in trouble. My bet is that they're very concerned right now. She is the first person on the national stage in a LONG time who can get away with sarcasm without being smarmy. Oh, she was sarcastic. And a "pit bull" with lipstick. But lesson learned to so many out there - it is okay to be cheerful. She was cheerful in her speech. Her smile was real. She smiled. There was a sense of sweetness. She is unlike Hillary Clinton - she doesn't talk down to you from a position of superiority. She can crack jokes in a deadpan and sweet manner. She could have said, "That's change you can Xerox" and get laughter. Hillary can't do it. Ann Richards couldn't do it. She could backhand Obama - being a small-town mayor is "like being a community organizer - only you have actual responsibilities." OUCH! Now, I would love to have seen Obama watching the speech. If Obama laughed at those comments, well, he'd probably get my vote. Now, I disagree with some of her policy statements. Terrorists also deserve Constitutional rights. I don't dig that. But she added some common sense. I don't think we should be drilling for oil in Alaska. She said the she knows it won't solve all the problems, but that shouldn't mean just leave it. Policy wise I disagree. From a speech standpoint - she's on. But most importantly - this was her FIRST national audience. Her FIRST time giving a speech like this. And dammit, she delivered. Firm voice. Sweetness. Cheer. But serious. She went yard in her first at bat in the show. Who the hell else could have done that? And she hasn't had weeks, months or years of training. Which leads me to believe that who we saw is who she is. She is not only real, she is FOR real. And I'll tell you, Biden is saying to himself, "Ohhhhhhhhhh SHIT!!!" Hey resident Republican....oh wait, Libertarian, sorry, just that you sounded 95% like a Republican - my bad. I don't know what area of law you practice, but the Biden / Palin debate would be like you arguing a motion before a judge, opposing a pro per. Wanna deny it, fine, but you WTF I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #71 September 4, 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>No, I don't follow the typical media bias that Bush is someone to be avoided. I think he's a good man and a great leader. Do you follow graphs, data a numbers? He inherited 5.5 trillion $ debt and it is just about 10 trillion. Does that worry you? Oh, and he inherited 236B in annual surplus and a 33b/yr debt increase, essentially flatline. Still a 10%er? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But, like I said, this is a thread about Palin, and the Bush bashers have plenty of threads and plenty of bullshit to post. How about posting data and historical evidence as i have? BTW, I have plenty more, it's just that neo-cons don't care about that stuff; do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #72 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteAlot of talk about patriotism...we know how that makes you liberals squirm. When I get citizenship I'll be proud to be an American, but I'm still a liberal (by your definition of not supporting a republican). How does that fit into your bullshit statement. Oh it doesn't does it, your just spinning another nasty attack from the right, make you feel proud and patriotic to slam half of your countrymen for thinking freely like the founders intended? Liberals are liberals...I didn't say anything about party. Show me how many times Obama calls himself a patriot in his acceptance speech...zero. Sure he mentions patriotism...twice. Liberals don't like to talk about being patriotic. It's like a bad cocktail party joke. Because it's subjective rhetoric. Do you know what nationalism is? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nationalism It can be healthy, but generally is not, esp when extremists use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #73 September 4, 2008 QuoteShe parked it! Way out of the stadium! Great job from someone no one really knew much about. Wonder how the Obama campaign feels after that castration? Obama: Her familt is off limits, esp her kids Palin: Bulldog with lipstick, nasty beotch We see the MO's at work here and I see who is nasty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #74 September 4, 2008 Quote I'm looking oh so forward to the debates. She did a splendid job and I'm quite pleased. Now if we can just get them elected... Welll exactly.....good luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #75 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuote>Alot of talk about patriotism...we know how that makes you liberals squirm. When a secessionist talks about patriotism, well - it's sorta like listening to Al Sharpton talk about ending racism. Makes me laugh. The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s secession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin had been a member of the group. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/us/politics/03party.html?ref=politics Correct. Her husband was a multi-year member and both have been active in the party and attending their conventions. To quote the party's founder, "I've Got No Use for America or Her Damned Institutions"----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites