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She came across as intelligent and articulate but to European ears that kind of "political" speech is rather grating and brash - "I'm going to DC to serve you" - [pass me a bucket].

Cultural differences not withstanding, she did an O.K job but couldn't fail with the audience that was present.

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>she's not qualified to be VP but Obama is qualified to be POTUS?

As I mentioned, if McCain survives to age 76, she could indeed be qualified to be VP. Now we just have to get someone to tell her what the job entails.



and out the gate, that would be the same for Obama should he win. (this comment directed at comparing Palin and Obama)
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Tearjerking references to McCain in prison and how prison experience will help run the country.
She said he's the only person running who has actually fought for the country. true. she said the Presidency is not a place for exploring yourself (or something to that effect) true. she said being a prisoner built the kind of character we need in a leader. true.



That one caught me too, I liked it, her rib at Sen. Obama was, "The American Presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery."

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Good stuff.
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I have to admit, I liked her speech. Very good orator. I probably would have liked to see her speak more about the issues at hand, but she IS the VP candidate. It's McCain's job to talk about the issues.

But come on, as cute as her kids are, did they have to show her youngest daughter licking her hand and then rubbing her baby brother's hair a certain way?

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It was a great speech. She did a incredible job delivering it. She comes across as a normal person. Biden is going to have his hands full in the VP debate.
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She definitely impressed me. As a VP nominee, she earmarks everything Obama is not.



Well, earmarks seem to be a strongpoint with her. Palin requested $198 million in earmarks for Alaska in next year's federal budget, which includes $25 million for Coastal Salmon Recovery and $3.2 million for sea lion biological research.

And then she took the "Bridge to Nowhere" money too.
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> mccain is about as different from bush as you can get and still have
>as "r" next to your name.

Exactly! He agrees with Bush only 95% of the time, instead of 100%.




the number i've heard is 90%, but i've also heard (haven't checked the numbers myself) is that about 90% of votes are unanimous or near unanimous, so that puts obama and mccain in agreement 90 of the time as well.


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I have to admit, I liked her speech. Very good orator. I probably would have liked to see her speak more about the issues at hand, but she IS the VP candidate. It's McCain's job to talk about the issues.

But come on, as cute as her kids are, did they have to show her youngest daughter licking her hand and then rubbing her baby brother's hair a certain way?

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Yea, C U Next Tuesday comes to mind. But remember, the Dems talk your ears off, the Repubs just fall inline behind 1 leader and never question things, just the different protocols so nothing new.

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It seems that plenty of people on the left support banning the bible in a number of places, eh? "Post the Ten Commandments in a courthouse? WOW! No way!! It must GO!"



Supporting separation of church and state is a far cry from supporting book banning, counselor. The former is supporting the first amendment. The latter is attacking it. :S

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And regarding secession? Well, I count myself as someone who believes in the right of states to secede. Think about it - we in the United States live in a country that, um, SECEDED from England.



I'm surprised you don't respect precedent of SCOTUS. States don't have a right to secede.
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The only problem I have with her is that she is on the same ticket as McSame... Repubs have had the last 8 years to fuck up this country. I vote to let another party have a shot at it. I do like Palin, but am so sick of the Repubs eletist, self centered bull shi%$# !

Sorry, but look at our economical position and our world standing and tell me you can justify another 4-8 years of this crap.



if you think that mccain is the same as bush, then you've bought into the bullshit. mccain is about as different from bush as you can get and still have as "r" next to your name.



90% the same isn't much different.

He's flip-flopped on a number of his "maverick" positions in order to pander to the far right.
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> mccain is about as different from bush as you can get and still have
>as "r" next to your name.

Exactly! He agrees with Bush only 95% of the time, instead of 100%.




the number i've heard is 90%, but i've also heard (haven't checked the numbers myself) is that about 90% of votes are unanimous or near unanimous, so that puts obama and mccain in agreement 90 of the time as well.



What? Senatorial voting records are accountable and recorded?

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=101&session=2&vote=00203


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Show me how many times Obama calls himself a patriot in his acceptance speech...zero. Sure he mentions patriotism...twice.

Liberals don't like to talk about being patriotic. It's like a bad cocktail party joke.



Actually, we view talk of patriotism as empty political rhetoric. We're not afraid of patriotism; we're just not naïve enough to be wooed by such claims.
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I think she gave a great speech, very entertaining. Also light on substance, but I guess that isn't her job.

To me the moments that will stand out the most are:

Her pregnant daughter holding hands with her "boyfriend". It was so constant that some one must have told them to hold hands on not let go. The guy also had this constant look on his face.....the look of, fuck I don't want to be here....should have pulled out sooner.

The second moment I will remember is how incredibly stiff McCain looked when he came on stage. He was walking around like some one had shoved a broomstick up his ass.

Now the reason I will remember those two things mostly, is because she didn't bring any substance into her speech, so there is nothing of substance to discuss either.

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It seems that plenty of people on the left support banning the bible in a number of places, eh? "Post the Ten Commandments in a courthouse? WOW! No way!! It must GO!"



Supporting separation of church and state is a far cry from supporting book banning, counselor. The former is supporting the first amendment. The latter is attacking it. :S

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And regarding secession? Well, I count myself as someone who believes in the right of states to secede. Think about it - we in the United States live in a country that, um, SECEDED from England.



I'm surprised you don't respect precedent of SCOTUS. States don't have a right to secede.


Right, I think there was a little war over that 150 years ago, not sure of the outcome:)

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Show me how many times Obama calls himself a patriot in his acceptance speech...zero. Sure he mentions patriotism...twice.

Liberals don't like to talk about being patriotic. It's like a bad cocktail party joke.



Actually, we view talk of patriotism as empty political rhetoric. We're not afraid of patriotism; we're just not naïve enough to be wooed by such claims.




Since liberals like change, it takes dissent to make change, so liberals often dissent rathar than can our opinions and lock-step march behind a dictator like Bush.

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>she's not qualified to be VP but Obama is qualified to be POTUS?

As I mentioned, if McCain survives to age 76, she could indeed be qualified to be VP. Now we just have to get someone to tell her what the job entails.



and out the gate, that would be the same for Obama should he win. (this comment directed at comparing Palin and Obama)



It remains to be seen how well she will speak unrehearsed and without a teleprompter.
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It was a great speech. She did a incredible job delivering it. She comes across as a normal person. Biden is going to have his hands full in the VP debate.




Yea, like a 30-year trial lawyer debating a high school dropout.



We'll see if you are singing that same tune after the debate. Biden is about as exciting as watching paint dry and he doesn't know when to shutup. I think Palin will do just fine against him.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The guy also had this constant look on his face.....the look of, fuck I don't want to be here....should have pulled out sooner.


Yea, he was thinking of teh shotgun they broke out earlier.


>>>>>>>>>>Now the reason I will remember those two things mostly, is because she didn't bring any substance into her speech, so there is nothing of substance to discuss either.


That is typical of the Republican Party tho.

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>she's not qualified to be VP but Obama is qualified to be POTUS?

As I mentioned, if McCain survives to age 76, she could indeed be qualified to be VP. Now we just have to get someone to tell her what the job entails.



and out the gate, that would be the same for Obama should he win. (this comment directed at comparing Palin and Obama)



It remains to be seen how well she will speak unrehearsed and without a teleprompter.




You can take the person out of the trailer, but not the trailer out of the person, so we will see that in the debates with no prompter.

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whoever WROTE the speech....

should be the candidate..........

not the 'mouthpiece' who delivered it...

and yes, Billy vance... nancy and i both winced, as the one child licked her hand and smeared it over the head of the other child...a number of times...:S

p s.
just who is watching the kids, when Mom is at the governers office??? and Dad is out being a "rugged Alaskan marlboro man"...?
the Older sister????? yikes.....:o[:/]:|

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It was a great speech. She did a incredible job delivering it. She comes across as a normal person. Biden is going to have his hands full in the VP debate.




Yea, like a 30-year trial lawyer debating a high school dropout.



We'll see if you are singing that same tune after the debate. Biden is about as exciting as watching paint dry and he doesn't know when to shutup. I think Palin will do just fine against him.




They're timed so they will tell him to shutup. If you had a criminal rap facing you and saw your PD coming around the corner, you would want to see a 30-year experienced guy rather than a 2-year experienced person. Yet you think here that 2 years is fine. Kind of tailoring your position for the argument.

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