jcd11235 0 #101 September 4, 2008 QuoteFor a presidential or senatorial election, do you really think people are drawn to beauty? Absolutely. Sex sells. Dumb, pretty people are almost always more popular than ugly smart people. Unfortunately, our elections are glorified popularity contests. OTOH, I've heard that many ladies find Obama as easy on the eyes as many guys find Palin to be, so the effect won't be one sided.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #102 September 4, 2008 Quote The second moment I will remember is how incredibly stiff McCain looked when he came on stage. He was walking around like some one had shoved a broomstick up his ass. What part of "tortured as a POW and medical attention denied by Viet Cong when captured" did you miss? I figure he has some lingering physical limitations from that experience."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #103 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote>she's not qualified to be VP but Obama is qualified to be POTUS? As I mentioned, if McCain survives to age 76, she could indeed be qualified to be VP. Now we just have to get someone to tell her what the job entails. and out the gate, that would be the same for Obama should he win. (this comment directed at comparing Palin and Obama) It remains to be seen how well she will speak unrehearsed and without a teleprompter. Yes, I agree I am looking forward to her debates with Biden. He is a known, she is an unknown"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #104 September 4, 2008 Quote p s. just who is watching the kids, when Mom is at the governers office??? and Dad is out being a "rugged Alaskan marlboro man"...? the Older sister????? yikes.....jt A nanny, or worse, an au pair? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #105 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuote The second moment I will remember is how incredibly stiff McCain looked when he came on stage. He was walking around like some one had shoved a broomstick up his ass. What part of "tortured as a POW and medical attention denied by Viet Cong when captured" did you miss? I figure he has some lingering physical limitations from that experience. He has some extreme lingering physical effects He was subjected to rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[32][43] Further injuries led to the beginning of a suicide attempt, which was stopped by guards.[32] After four days, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[32] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[44][45] His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[46] He subsequently received two to three beatings per week because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[47] Other American POWs were similarly tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements.[48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain Somehow that's not good enough to wear the label of patriot and talk about being one.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #106 September 4, 2008 QuoteWhat part of "tortured as a POW and medical attention denied by Viet Cong when captured" did you miss? I figure he has some lingering physical limitations from that experience. true, I would think he has some lingering mental limitations from that experience as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #107 September 4, 2008 Parading ones kids for political capital is really tacky - IMHO (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #108 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteFor a presidential or senatorial election, do you really think people are drawn to beauty? Absolutely. Sex sells. Dumb, pretty people are almost always more popular than ugly smart people. Unfortunately, our elections are glorified popularity contests. OTOH, I've heard that many ladies find Obama as easy on the eyes as many guys find Palin to be, so the effect won't be one sided. I want to believe that substance will carry, but in reality, probably naive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #109 September 4, 2008 Quote Quote The second moment I will remember is how incredibly stiff McCain looked when he came on stage. He was walking around like some one had shoved a broomstick up his ass. What part of "tortured as a POW and medical attention denied by Viet Cong when captured" did you miss? I figure he has some lingering physical limitations from that experience. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...medical attention denied by Viet Cong when captured.. So we're also run by the Viet Cong then , or McSame's answer is to make medical attention exclusive. Sounds like he learned a thing or two over there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #110 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>she's not qualified to be VP but Obama is qualified to be POTUS? As I mentioned, if McCain survives to age 76, she could indeed be qualified to be VP. Now we just have to get someone to tell her what the job entails. and out the gate, that would be the same for Obama should he win. (this comment directed at comparing Palin and Obama) It remains to be seen how well she will speak unrehearsed and without a teleprompter. Yes, I agree I am looking forward to her debates with Biden. He is a known, she is an unknown He's got 35 years, she has none (governors don't argue issues as legislators do). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #111 September 4, 2008 and at least McCain voted. i personally feel Obama didn't vote on alot of things so it wouldn't come back at him in the election. shows he has no faith in his choices. he is afraid of what people would say if he actually made a choice. Obama has no trac record we can follow to understand his thought or feelings on the issues so we realy don't know what he is going to do if he becomes president. not all of bushes decissions were bad and most of his choises were voted in by both rep and dems. Mccain didn't vote with Bush 10% of the time which means he isn't bush. It only take a few changes to change the outlook on a large number of issues. a couple small changes here or there makes huge difference when it gets to the people. no one person or organization can make large changes, it was set up that way to balance power. Niether Obama nor Mcain can change things overnight it will take time, patience and influence to convince the other people in congress to swing things in a different direction and only Mccain has shown he can do that. Palin's speach and record has shown she can do it also. Obama has shown no ability to get things done and has no record to stand on other than he is popular. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #112 September 4, 2008 CAPITAL GAINS TAX MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax. OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.) DIVIDEND TAX MCCAIN 15% (no change) OBAMA 39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.') INCOME TAX MCCAIN (no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500 Single making 50K - tax $12,500 Single making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 60K- tax $9,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250 OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Under Obama, your taxes could almost double! INHERITANCE TAX MCCAIN - 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax) OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes. NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!! You can verify the above at the following web sites: cnn cnn2 fox? AARP WP WP2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #113 September 4, 2008 Quote Quote Quote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...medical attention denied by Viet Cong when captured.. So we're also run by the Viet Cong then , or McSame's answer is to make medical attention exclusive. Sounds like he learned a thing or two over there. Huh?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #114 September 4, 2008 I'm glad someone knows how to pull this stuff up because i don't. I did listen to Obama's & Palin's speeches and personally Obama scared the crap out of me. All i could think was who was going to pay for this shit? I really couldn't believe people got excited about his plans. sounded like something you would here from Russia. I wanted to vote republican just from his speech. I want alot of things but i want to earn them myself. I don't want government giving me things or giving my hard earned money to someone else for their little pet projects. I know some things have to be run by the government and paid for by us but come on loosing 20-30 % of my retirement? I don't want to work till i'm 80 years old. Palin's speech actually made me feel better because I didn't feel like i was going to pay for everything. she sold the jet, got rid of the cook, and stop the bridge project and put the money to better use. now that sounds like someone i want to make descissions for me. I don't agree with everything on the McCain / Palin ticket but i feel alot better about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #115 September 4, 2008 I just need to find someone to extract the smoke outta my ass that Obama blew...unless he has a magic wand, I just don't see how it's possible for him to do the things he says. All flash, no substance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #116 September 4, 2008 It is hard to believe, that in this day and age, with all the knowledge available to us, that people could be so shallow that they would believe this shit just because the currant president made some unpopular / bad choices. but then again with the people that made bad choices in the housing market i guess they still haven't learned how to tell when they are getting cheated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #117 September 4, 2008 I think a HUGE part of being Pres is having the balls to make the unpopular choices, be they good or bad. Bush has made mistakes, find me a pres that hasn't. Bush sure was "right" to the general public until about 2 years ago...hmmm...I wonder what happened??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #118 September 4, 2008 We need more taxes. Do you think Clinton did a good job with the economy or not? He raised taxes and everyone prospered. Bush cut taxes, cleared out the surplus and look what happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #119 September 4, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...medical attention denied by Viet Cong when captured.. So we're also run by the Viet Cong then , or McSame's answer is to make medical attention exclusive. Sounds like he learned a thing or two over there. Huh? They were your words..... McCain denied medical care sounds like such an American ideal, maybe he learned it there since he so for exclusive medical care Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #120 September 4, 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>All i could think was who was going to pay for this shit? The same people that currently pay about 700 billion a year for the military and the war; the debt. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I really couldn't believe people got excited about his plans. sounded like something you would here from Russia. Yea, greed is an American thing, I agree. >>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't want government giving me things or giving my hard earned money to someone else for their little pet projects. Unless that project is a 2 billion $ B-2 or something cool like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't agree with everything on the McCain / Palin ticket but i feel alot better about it. I agree, no sesne in changing the direcction of the country now, thimgs are going so well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #121 September 4, 2008 QuoteI just need to find someone to extract the smoke outta my ass that Obama blew...unless he has a magic wand, I just don't see how it's possible for him to do the things he says. All flash, no substance. Clinton did many things he claimed he would do with teh government. Truthfully, so did Bush; he only lied about the entry into Iraq, other than that he delivered as promised. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #122 September 4, 2008 Quote It is hard to believe, that in this day and age, with all the knowledge available to us, that people could be so shallow that they would believe this shit just because the currant president made so god damned many unpopular / bad choices. but then again with the people that made bad choices in the housing market i guess they still haven't learned how to tell when they are getting cheated. Fixed the first part. People made bad choices? No, the depleted interest rate is what led to the mortgage meltdown. Why were the interest rate so low so long? The fed uses that to stimulate the economy, but Bush's policies had depleted that so much that even 5% interest couldn't help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #123 September 4, 2008 Quote I think a HUGE part of being Pres is having the balls to make the unpopular choices, be they good or bad. Bush has made mistakes, find me a pres that hasn't. Bush sure was "right" to the general public until about 2 years ago...hmmm...I wonder what happened??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bush sure was "right" to the general public until about 2 years ago... HUH? As for the bad decision/balls correlation, I guess we can call bank robbers balsy then in that same accord. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #124 September 4, 2008 QuoteIt remains to be seen how well she will speak unrehearsed and without a teleprompter. Can't be much worse than Obama!Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #125 September 4, 2008 Clinton drained us over his term. By the end many people had very little left to make it though 911. The companies like Enron and Tyco already were bankrupt when bush took office they had nothing left to survive 911. Clinton balanced the buget on our backs and drained our savings to do it. my pay and bring home pay shrunk each year clinton was in office. I have had an increase each year Bush has been there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites