Why are the ones who claim to be the most Christian are the warmongers?

[Darius11 12]

I see this all the time. The people who claim to have god in there life and the ones who have accepted Jesus Christ or claim they have are the same people who can’t wait till there son goes to war and kill some brown people. Or they can’t wait to bomb a nation.

WTF, maybe I didn’t get it right but if I recall Christ was kind of in to peace was he not?

Can someone please explain this to me?

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[beowulf 1]

Muslims seem to have a similar problem. Their most fanatatical are the most violent.

I don't think it's limited to any one religion.

[SpeedRacer 1]

The Pope usually comes out AGAINST war, though.

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[shropshire 0]

Hypocrites exist in all cultures... nothing new there.

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[warpedskydiver 0]

Lunatics of any race, religion or creed often proclaim themselves to be entirely devoted to something.

The ones shouting the loudest are usually the fakes.

[Darius11 12]

Yes they do but their main focus of their religion is not turning the other cheek but actually the opposite. Islam is about justice so when an unjust act has been done against you it is expected for you to retaliate.

My understanding of Christianity is that peace is the only way. Please correct me if i am wrong

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[skydyvr 0]

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before!

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[Darius11 12]

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Hypocrites exist in all cultures... nothing new there.

True but I guess I have not seen it in such huge proportion.

In the US literally the Christine right who claim not to be godless like the democrats are the ones always ready for war. I wonder if they read their own book?

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[Lucky... 0]

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I see this all the time. The people who claim to have god in there life and the ones who have accepted Jesus Christ or claim they have are the same people who can’t wait till there son goes to war and kill some brown people. Or they can’t wait to bomb a nation.

WTF, maybe I didn’t get it right but if I recall Christ was kind of in to peace was he not?

Can someone please explain this to me?

It really does make sense, as the Bible is an ugly book. It's full of hate, killing and vengeance.

[Lucky... 0]

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The Pope usually comes out AGAINST war, though.

Yea, that's cause the Pope is a pussy

[Darius11 12]

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The ones shouting the loudest are usually the fakes.

Agree 100% bro.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[beowulf 1]

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Yes they do but their main focus of their religion is not turning the other cheek but actually the opposite. Islam is about justice so when an unjust act has been done against you it is expected for you to retaliate.

My understanding of Christianity is that peace is the only way. Please correct me if i am wrong

I am an atheist. But from what I grew up with it is supposed to be about peace, depending on if you read the old testament or new.

As far as what you said about Muslims seeking justice. Justice is such and arbitrary thing. To one person it could mean a punishment of exhile while another might advocate prison time or another might want death for the offender.

[Darius11 12]

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As far as what you said about Muslims seeking justice. Justice is such and arbitrary thing. To one person it could mean a punishment of exhile while another might advocate prison time or another might want death for the offender.

You’re absolutely right. My personal opinion on religion is that it is a personal choice and should never be made in too law or influence law.
Laws need to be based on logic.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[micro 0]

Most Christians I know are against war, but there is also just war theory, which a lot of Christians espouse. I wouldn't call Christians who believe in just way theory "warmongers."

I would agree w/ you that a lot of Christians of the U.S. variety may be far too quick to take up the military option to advance political ends instead of truly embracing their faith and living the Christian idela of peace. While it is sometimes necessary to use force to defend oneself (which would also include one's family, town, country) there's a big difference b/t defending and attacking.

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[Darius11 12]

I agree one always has the right to defend oneself. However what I notice is that during most speeches they like to mention they support the war and have very Christian ideas. I have always thought that to be a contradiction, especially in wars like Iraq.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[BillyVance 34]

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Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before!

Are we related? That's exactly what I was gonna post when I saw this thread title!

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[JackC 0]

It seems that many people do find violence and hate in religious belief even though it isn't supposed to be there. Could it be that humanity has been duped by religions apparently peaceful and loving surface when the reality is something altogether more ugly? Maybe the philosophy is flawed and hate is the inevitable result? Just a thought.

[SpeedRacer 1]

hate was there to begin with. The Ancient World (ie, Old Testament times) was a brutal & violent world to live in.

In terms of % of people getting viciously slaughtered/sacrificed, we live in much better times now.

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[vortexring 0]

I think the real issue here is simply a clash of fundamentalisms.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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In terms of % of people getting viciously slaughtered/sacrificed, we live in much better times now.

We live in more secular times too.

[pirana 0]

People with no balance are the ones most likely to act in the extreme. All obsessions are bad. Doesn't matter if it is religion, politics, skydiving, picking your nose, smelling other people's underarms, etc.

They may get really good at their choice of obsession, but are also usually somewhere between annoying and psychotic on the can-they-be-tolerated spectrum.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[JohnRich 4]

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Muslims seem to have a similar problem. Their most fanatatical are the most violent.

Yes they do but their main focus of their religion is not turning the other cheek but actually the opposite. Islam is about justice so when an unjust act has been done against you it is expected for you to retaliate.

Oh, well that makes it okay then.

So with Muslims, the entire religion is indoctrinated to wreak vengeance.

But with Christians, most "turn the other cheek", while only some seek vengeance.

And yet you consider the Christians the most evil ones...

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Muslims seem to have a similar problem. Their most fanatatical are the most violent.

Yes they do but their main focus of their religion is not turning the other cheek but actually the opposite. Islam is about justice so when an unjust act has been done against you it is expected for you to retaliate.

Oh, well that makes it okay then.

So with Muslims, the entire religion is indoctrinated to wreak vengeance.

But with Christians, most "turn the other cheek", while only some seek vengeance.

And yet you consider the Christians the most evil ones...

No, no, no...you got it all wrong. It's the buddhists that are the most evil ones. Anyone who can sit there and stare at a flame for long periods at a time has got to be an evil motherfucker.

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