kallend 2,030 #26 September 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote When given a choice between Bush and McCain, your party chose Bush. What does that say about McCain? OR your party's collective judgment? Unfortunately you view the issue as black and white. It's not. You view GWB's presidency as a complete failure. I do not. You see only the bad. I see some of both. I would have thought an educated man would have balance. Ability to see all sides. You are blinded by hatred for GWB. People who see things in black and white scare me. It seems that a large majority of Americans agree with my view of Bush (lowest approval rating of ANY president ever). Even McCain distances himself from Bush (only 8 minutes at the RNC for a sitting president!). Since the GOP's considered opinion (verified by ballot in 2000) is that Bush is better suited to be president than McCain, we're all in trouble. and things have changed in 8 years. McCain is more popular and Bush is less popular. There has been a terrorist attack, and a war since then...Maybe that affected the opinion of both. Are you saying the GOP got it wrong in 2000? Oh the humanity!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #27 September 5, 2008 QuoteWhen given a choice between Bush and McCain, your party chose Bush. What does that say about McCain? McCain was till pretty green back in 2000. He needed some time to mature. You know how insecure 64 year olds can be!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #28 September 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote When given a choice between Bush and McCain, your party chose Bush. What does that say about McCain? OR your party's collective judgment? Unfortunately you view the issue as black and white. It's not. You view GWB's presidency as a complete failure. I do not. You see only the bad. I see some of both. I would have thought an educated man would have balance. Ability to see all sides. You are blinded by hatred for GWB. People who see things in black and white scare me. It seems that a large majority of Americans agree with my view of Bush (lowest approval rating of ANY president ever). Even McCain distances himself from Bush (only 8 minutes at the RNC for a sitting president!). Since the GOP's considered opinion (verified by ballot in 2000) is that Bush is better suited to be president than McCain, we're all in trouble. and things have changed in 8 years. McCain is more popular and Bush is less popular. There has been a terrorist attack, and a war since then...Maybe that affected the opinion of both. Are you saying the GOP got it wrong in 2000? Oh the humanity! I'm saying things change. Do you think opinions held in the 50s can be compared on an Apples to Apples basis to opinions held today? This is an stretch, but things do change over time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #29 September 5, 2008 Quote It goes to character. I think McCain has character Obama can't even come close to. . A married, active duty naval officer having an adulterous affair while his wife is recovering from a car accident is a sign of CHARACTER? I thought it was called "conduct unbecoming an officer". Funny standards you have.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #30 September 5, 2008 Liek it or not SOMETHINGS changing.......... Quote CBS) The presidential race between Barack Obama and John McCain is now even at 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week. Twelve percent are undecided according to the poll, and one percent said they wouldn't vote. This is in contrast to a poll conducted last weekend, where the Obama-Biden ticket led McCain-Palin by eight points, 48 percent to 40 percent. McCain has also closed the enthusiasm gap some with Obama, but it still exists. Fifty-five percent of Obama's supporters are enthusiastic about their choice, and now so are 35% of McCain's. Last weekend, just 25 percent of McCain's supporters were enthusiastic about him, compared to 67 of Obama's supporters. The average of polls has Obama ahead by 3.8% McCain pulls this out just how many of you Rep haters are moving out of the country?Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 September 5, 2008 QuoteLiek it or not SOMETHINGS changing.......... Quote CBS) The presidential race between Barack Obama and John McCain is now even at 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week. Twelve percent are undecided according to the poll, and one percent said they wouldn't vote. This is in contrast to a poll conducted last weekend, where the Obama-Biden ticket led McCain-Palin by eight points, 48 percent to 40 percent. McCain has also closed the enthusiasm gap some with Obama, but it still exists. Fifty-five percent of Obama's supporters are enthusiastic about their choice, and now so are 35% of McCain's. Last weekend, just 25 percent of McCain's supporters were enthusiastic about him, compared to 67 of Obama's supporters. The average of polls has Obama ahead by 3.8% Quote Not the polls of LIKELY voters."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #32 September 5, 2008 well, I wouldn't. Either of these guys are preferable to our current genius in the whitehouse. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TypicalFish 0 #33 September 5, 2008 Quotewell, I wouldn't. Either of these guys are preferable to our current genius in the whitehouse. I was just thinking the same thing."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piper17 1 #34 September 5, 2008 Did Obama "earn" his way into Harvard or was it "affirmative action" that got him in? I don't know the answer as to whether either of them "earned" their way in or not but something to consider."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funjumper101 15 #35 September 5, 2008 Quote In the late 90's McCain voted to overide GWB's veto on 2 seperate occasions. That's not simply voting with Bush, that's in your face trying to overide GWB's veto. A stellar example of righty revisionist history. You might want to check your facts. If McCain voted to override vetos in the late 90s, it wasn't shrub who was president. GWB took the oath of office in January, 2001. Repeating talking points verbatim without a clue as to truth or falseness of the claims is pathetic. Have you no shame? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,030 #36 September 5, 2008 QuoteQuote In the late 90's McCain voted to overide GWB's veto on 2 seperate occasions. That's not simply voting with Bush, that's in your face trying to overide GWB's veto. A stellar example of righty revisionist history. You might want to check your facts. If McCain voted to override vetos in the late 90s, it wasn't shrub who was president. GWB took the oath of office in January, 2001. Repeating talking points verbatim without a clue as to truth or falseness of the claims is pathetic. Have you no shame? Twice in two days, even!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #37 September 5, 2008 QuoteDid Obama "earn" his way into Harvard or was it "affirmative action" that got him in? I don't know the answer as to whether "earned" their way in or not but something to consider. Actually that's a good question, and I don't know the answer to it. I'd hope he earned it. Either way, his performance there demonstrated that he deserved it. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #38 September 5, 2008 I thought McCain's speech was ok. I have to admit that I fell asleep about three quarters of the way through, since he really is a bad speaker. Couple of things that I got from the speech. Incredibly light on any economic initiatives, even lighter than Obama's speech. Apparently Americans should vote for McCain cause he got shot down over Vietnam, cracked in the Hanoi Hilton, but survived. I did get a good chuckle when McCain spent quite some time on how he is going to reach across the aisle, be bipartisan. Specially after the speeches from his party faithful the nights before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #39 September 5, 2008 Quote Quote She will kill him. She was quite the bulldog on the court in high school. I believe you mean "quite the barracuda," but in any case, Obama is actually still quite good at basketball and I'm nearly certain that in a 1 on 1 she'd lose pretty badly. Not that we're ever going to see that. Well Obama might well beat her at basketball, being taller. I said "bulldog" because she referred to herself as a "bulldog with lipstick" in her speech. She played very physical basketball in high school. Not afraid to throw an elbow. They're both in their 40's so I agree, not going to see it happen."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #40 September 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteDid Obama "earn" his way into Harvard or was it "affirmative action" that got him in? I don't know the answer as to whether "earned" their way in or not but something to consider. Actually that's a good question, and I don't know the answer to it. I'd hope he earned it. Either way, his performance there demonstrated that he deserved it. I think if you Google up some Obama & affirmative action articles you'll see where he has said that affirmative action should move from a race based to class based system and that his own daughters' color should not be a factor at all in their admissions since they come from an affluent family. This has actually caused some traditional affirmative action advocates a bit of "heartburn." I find it difficult to believe he could hold these positions up to the faces of his constituency if he did not fully believe his own admissions were based in merit and not affirmative action. If he did believe it was because of affirmative action, especially considering his class status growing up, it would be pretty much proof that the affirmative action establishment "works" and I believe we would be hearing a LOT more about that.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #41 September 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote She will kill him. She was quite the bulldog on the court in high school. I believe you mean "quite the barracuda," but in any case, Obama is actually still quite good at basketball and I'm nearly certain that in a 1 on 1 she'd lose pretty badly. Not that we're ever going to see that. Well Obama might well beat her at basketball, being taller. I said "bulldog" because she referred to herself as a "bulldog with lipstick" in her speech. She played very physical basketball in high school. Not afraid to throw an elbow. They're both in their 40's so I agree, not going to see it happen. "Barracuda" was her nickname when she played high-school basketball.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mirage62 0 #42 September 5, 2008 Quote Not the polls of LIKELY voters. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows the beginning of John McCain’s convention bounce and the race is essentially back where it was before Barack Obama’s bounce. Obama now attracts 46% of the vote while McCain earns 45%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 46% (see recent daily results). Tracking Poll results are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. Virtually all of the interviews for today’s update were completed before McCain’s speech last night. Roughly two-thirds of the interviews were completed before Palin’s speech on Wednesday night. Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. I believe the above is based on "likely voters.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #43 September 5, 2008 QuoteQuote Not the polls of LIKELY voters. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows the beginning of John McCain’s convention bounce and the race is essentially back where it was before Barack Obama’s bounce. Obama now attracts 46% of the vote while McCain earns 45%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 46% (see recent daily results). Tracking Poll results are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. Virtually all of the interviews for today’s update were completed before McCain’s speech last night. Roughly two-thirds of the interviews were completed before Palin’s speech on Wednesday night. Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. I believe the above is based on "likely voters. there are polls of registrer voters, general polls, polls of likely voter and many others. The polls that list they are polling likely voters have shown a near dead heat for a couple of weeks now (with some fluxuations)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mirage62 0 #44 September 5, 2008 aaaaaaaaahhhhhh my bad BUT please please tell me that it couldn't happen. Not again. All these dummies elected Bush for a second time - surely they won't elect McCain over the choosen one!!!!!!!!!Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funjumper101 15 #45 September 5, 2008 Quote Tracking Poll results are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. To me, what is really skewing the polls is their dependency on land line telephones. There are many people who don't have land lines anymore. The younger you are, the less likely you have one, for the most part. I recently got rid of my land line and use a cell phone exclusively. Many people I know have done the same thing. It seems highly unlikely that the published poll numbers are remotely accurate. Their sampling error is massive and growing every day due to the reliance on land lines for conducting the polls. WRT to McCain's speech, it was pretty bad. The Stepford people in the audience were creepy. His closing bit about fighting fight fight fight was appalling. Further dividing the country aginst itself only makes us weaker. McCain is clueless and totally out of touch. So is Caribou Barbie. She can read a teleprompter OK. That is about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mirage62 0 #46 September 5, 2008 Quote It seems highly unlikely that the published poll numbers are remotely accurate. *** The younger you are, the less likely you have one, for the most part. Quote I have heard of this, and you very well may be correct. BUT as far as the % of people that have gotten rid of there land lines (or never had one) that VOTE would be my question. So is Caribou Barbie. She can read a teleprompter OK. That is about it. *** Not sure abou that one, but the same has been said about ObamaKevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,030 #47 September 5, 2008 Quoteaaaaaaaaahhhhhh my bad BUT please please tell me that it couldn't happen. Not again. All these dummies elected Bush for a second time - surely they won't elect McCain over the choosen one!!!!!!!!! Well, since Bush's performance proves they ARE dummies, they quite likely will vote for BushIII aka McCain. I finally heard his speech today. The relevant parts went something like this: "We in the GOP fucked over the American people for the last 8 years and they hate us, so now we've learned our lesson and are going to change ("change" repeated about 10 times); re-elect us, we promise we will stop fucking you over now". Change, my friends, involves throwing the GOP out of the White House, not giving them another 4 years.... 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SpeedRacer 1 #32 September 5, 2008 well, I wouldn't. Either of these guys are preferable to our current genius in the whitehouse. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #33 September 5, 2008 Quotewell, I wouldn't. Either of these guys are preferable to our current genius in the whitehouse. I was just thinking the same thing."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #34 September 5, 2008 Did Obama "earn" his way into Harvard or was it "affirmative action" that got him in? I don't know the answer as to whether either of them "earned" their way in or not but something to consider."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #35 September 5, 2008 Quote In the late 90's McCain voted to overide GWB's veto on 2 seperate occasions. That's not simply voting with Bush, that's in your face trying to overide GWB's veto. A stellar example of righty revisionist history. You might want to check your facts. If McCain voted to override vetos in the late 90s, it wasn't shrub who was president. GWB took the oath of office in January, 2001. Repeating talking points verbatim without a clue as to truth or falseness of the claims is pathetic. Have you no shame? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #36 September 5, 2008 QuoteQuote In the late 90's McCain voted to overide GWB's veto on 2 seperate occasions. That's not simply voting with Bush, that's in your face trying to overide GWB's veto. A stellar example of righty revisionist history. You might want to check your facts. If McCain voted to override vetos in the late 90s, it wasn't shrub who was president. GWB took the oath of office in January, 2001. Repeating talking points verbatim without a clue as to truth or falseness of the claims is pathetic. Have you no shame? Twice in two days, even!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #37 September 5, 2008 QuoteDid Obama "earn" his way into Harvard or was it "affirmative action" that got him in? I don't know the answer as to whether "earned" their way in or not but something to consider. Actually that's a good question, and I don't know the answer to it. I'd hope he earned it. Either way, his performance there demonstrated that he deserved it. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #38 September 5, 2008 I thought McCain's speech was ok. I have to admit that I fell asleep about three quarters of the way through, since he really is a bad speaker. Couple of things that I got from the speech. Incredibly light on any economic initiatives, even lighter than Obama's speech. Apparently Americans should vote for McCain cause he got shot down over Vietnam, cracked in the Hanoi Hilton, but survived. I did get a good chuckle when McCain spent quite some time on how he is going to reach across the aisle, be bipartisan. Specially after the speeches from his party faithful the nights before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #39 September 5, 2008 Quote Quote She will kill him. She was quite the bulldog on the court in high school. I believe you mean "quite the barracuda," but in any case, Obama is actually still quite good at basketball and I'm nearly certain that in a 1 on 1 she'd lose pretty badly. Not that we're ever going to see that. Well Obama might well beat her at basketball, being taller. I said "bulldog" because she referred to herself as a "bulldog with lipstick" in her speech. She played very physical basketball in high school. Not afraid to throw an elbow. They're both in their 40's so I agree, not going to see it happen."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #40 September 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteDid Obama "earn" his way into Harvard or was it "affirmative action" that got him in? I don't know the answer as to whether "earned" their way in or not but something to consider. Actually that's a good question, and I don't know the answer to it. I'd hope he earned it. Either way, his performance there demonstrated that he deserved it. I think if you Google up some Obama & affirmative action articles you'll see where he has said that affirmative action should move from a race based to class based system and that his own daughters' color should not be a factor at all in their admissions since they come from an affluent family. This has actually caused some traditional affirmative action advocates a bit of "heartburn." I find it difficult to believe he could hold these positions up to the faces of his constituency if he did not fully believe his own admissions were based in merit and not affirmative action. If he did believe it was because of affirmative action, especially considering his class status growing up, it would be pretty much proof that the affirmative action establishment "works" and I believe we would be hearing a LOT more about that.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #41 September 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote She will kill him. She was quite the bulldog on the court in high school. I believe you mean "quite the barracuda," but in any case, Obama is actually still quite good at basketball and I'm nearly certain that in a 1 on 1 she'd lose pretty badly. Not that we're ever going to see that. Well Obama might well beat her at basketball, being taller. I said "bulldog" because she referred to herself as a "bulldog with lipstick" in her speech. She played very physical basketball in high school. Not afraid to throw an elbow. They're both in their 40's so I agree, not going to see it happen. "Barracuda" was her nickname when she played high-school basketball.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #42 September 5, 2008 Quote Not the polls of LIKELY voters. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows the beginning of John McCain’s convention bounce and the race is essentially back where it was before Barack Obama’s bounce. Obama now attracts 46% of the vote while McCain earns 45%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 46% (see recent daily results). Tracking Poll results are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. Virtually all of the interviews for today’s update were completed before McCain’s speech last night. Roughly two-thirds of the interviews were completed before Palin’s speech on Wednesday night. Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. I believe the above is based on "likely voters.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #43 September 5, 2008 QuoteQuote Not the polls of LIKELY voters. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows the beginning of John McCain’s convention bounce and the race is essentially back where it was before Barack Obama’s bounce. Obama now attracts 46% of the vote while McCain earns 45%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 46% (see recent daily results). Tracking Poll results are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. Virtually all of the interviews for today’s update were completed before McCain’s speech last night. Roughly two-thirds of the interviews were completed before Palin’s speech on Wednesday night. Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. I believe the above is based on "likely voters. there are polls of registrer voters, general polls, polls of likely voter and many others. The polls that list they are polling likely voters have shown a near dead heat for a couple of weeks now (with some fluxuations)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #44 September 5, 2008 aaaaaaaaahhhhhh my bad BUT please please tell me that it couldn't happen. Not again. All these dummies elected Bush for a second time - surely they won't elect McCain over the choosen one!!!!!!!!!Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #45 September 5, 2008 Quote Tracking Poll results are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. To me, what is really skewing the polls is their dependency on land line telephones. There are many people who don't have land lines anymore. The younger you are, the less likely you have one, for the most part. I recently got rid of my land line and use a cell phone exclusively. Many people I know have done the same thing. It seems highly unlikely that the published poll numbers are remotely accurate. Their sampling error is massive and growing every day due to the reliance on land lines for conducting the polls. WRT to McCain's speech, it was pretty bad. The Stepford people in the audience were creepy. His closing bit about fighting fight fight fight was appalling. Further dividing the country aginst itself only makes us weaker. McCain is clueless and totally out of touch. So is Caribou Barbie. She can read a teleprompter OK. That is about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #46 September 5, 2008 Quote It seems highly unlikely that the published poll numbers are remotely accurate. *** The younger you are, the less likely you have one, for the most part. Quote I have heard of this, and you very well may be correct. BUT as far as the % of people that have gotten rid of there land lines (or never had one) that VOTE would be my question. So is Caribou Barbie. She can read a teleprompter OK. That is about it. *** Not sure abou that one, but the same has been said about ObamaKevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #47 September 5, 2008 Quoteaaaaaaaaahhhhhh my bad BUT please please tell me that it couldn't happen. Not again. All these dummies elected Bush for a second time - surely they won't elect McCain over the choosen one!!!!!!!!! Well, since Bush's performance proves they ARE dummies, they quite likely will vote for BushIII aka McCain. I finally heard his speech today. The relevant parts went something like this: "We in the GOP fucked over the American people for the last 8 years and they hate us, so now we've learned our lesson and are going to change ("change" repeated about 10 times); re-elect us, we promise we will stop fucking you over now". Change, my friends, involves throwing the GOP out of the White House, not giving them another 4 years.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #48 September 5, 2008 QuoteA married, active duty naval officer having an adulterous affair while his wife is recovering from a car accident is a sign of CHARACTER? How about admitted drug use?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #49 September 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteA married, active duty naval officer having an adulterous affair while his wife is recovering from a car accident is a sign of CHARACTER? How about admitted drug use? McCain admitted that too? Oh the humanity!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #50 September 6, 2008 QuoteMcCain admitted that too? Oh the humanity! You know better. You know it was Obama. How do you feel about past drug use and character?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
