CrazyL 0 #51 September 23, 2006 Seat Pack rated Master Rigger here !!!!!! Have serviced several makes/models of the seat pack. Bring it !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenLight 7 #52 September 24, 2006 QuoteThe Ol'timers here should probably stress it a little more. GEAR CHECK PEOPLE hows that?Green Light "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #53 September 24, 2006 QuoteSeat Pack rated Master Rigger here !!!!!! Have serviced several makes/models of the seat pack. Bring it !!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's lay our dicks on the table! Hah! Hah! While FAA DPRE Dave DeWolf may have taught me the basics of packing seat packs - and signed off my "seat" endorsement - it was really Manley Butler who taught me the details. My year with Butler Parachute Systems was the most intense learning experience of my life. That year, I learned more about rigging - specifically PEPs .... Manley insisted on me packing EVERYTHING that came through the shop. By everything, I mean every PEP ever made in the USA (Butler, GQ Security, Irvin, National, North American Aerodynamics, Mills, Para-Flight, Para-Innovators, Para-Phernalia, Pioneer, Strong, etc.), as well as some exotic military stuff made in Britain, Yugoslavia and South Africa. My second task at Rigging Innovations was packing Aviator prototypes and I even got to do a few test jumps on Aviators. Later on, I worked for Para-Phernalia and learned some of the finer points of production sewing. Ironically, these days customers rarely bring me seat packs made by Butler or Para-Phernalia. They are far more likely to bring me Strong or National seat packs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrFreefall383 0 #54 September 29, 2006 Sounds like a few bad decisions compacted by occasional bad luck, saved by attentive fellow jumpers. This seems to reinforce two things, which luckily my DZ hasn't had any problem with: following proper takeoff procedures with regards to the jump door, and doing gear checks as if you'll die without them... because you might. To clarify here, FARs say the door must be closed on taxi, takeoff and landing, correct? 300 feet is still very much takeoff. Unless those flaps are retracted, you're still on takeoff. As for gear checks, I would think that would be self-explanatory, but apparently not everyone lives with the same safety standards. Luckily this didn't end up worse."If at first you don't succeed... well, so much for skydiving." - aviation cliche Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdad510 1 #55 September 30, 2006 If you read the whole post, I corrected myself, we were at 3000 feet.Brad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrFreefall383 0 #56 September 30, 2006 I apologize, I did not read the whole post. Often reading through several pages of commentary turns out to be rather useless. I apologize. Forget I said anything."If at first you don't succeed... well, so much for skydiving." - aviation cliche Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #57 October 2, 2006 QuoteTo clarify here, FARs say the door must be closed on taxi, takeoff and landing, correct? That it not correct. The FARs state seatbelts must be worn during taxi, takeoff, and landing. Doors are not required to be closed, and certain aircraft have an open cabin and don't even have doors. I agree that having the door closed during takeoff is good procedure, and should be kept closed until at least 1000' after all seatbelts are removed.BASE 1224, Senior Parachute Rigger, CPL ASEL IA, AGI, IGI USPA Coach & UPT Tandem Instructor, PRO, Altimaster Field Support Representative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrFreefall383 0 #58 October 3, 2006 Thanks for the clarification. I do remember that now from my days of flying, it just seemed logical that both would be the case. Now I know."If at first you don't succeed... well, so much for skydiving." - aviation cliche Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites