Sarah Palin KNOWS God's Plan! Pray for a Gas Pipeline!

[quade 4]

Oh dear . . . she knows that God has a plan for Iraq and Alaska and she's here to carry it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0UQbA0ZmmM&feature=related

Oh, and one more thing . . . people will be interested in God because of how cool you look.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[akarunway 1]

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Oh dear . . . she knows that God has a plan for Iraq and Alaska and she's here to carry it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0UQbA0ZmmM&feature=related

Oh, and one more thing . . . people will be interested in God because of how cool you look.

I only watched the first video. That is some scary shit.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Colson 0]

That is disgusting.

Why is there a glass cage around the drum set in a church?

[billvon 3,006]

A preacher at that church said the following while Palin was in attendance:

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But what we see in Israel, the conflict that has spilled out throughout the Middle East, really which is all about Jerusalem, is an ongoing reflection of the fact that there is judgment. There is judgment that is going on in the land, and that’s the other part of this Jerusalem dilemma. When Jesus was standing in that temple, He spoke that that judgment was coming, that there’s a reality to the judgment of unbelief.

Judgment is very real, and we see it played out in the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It’s very real. When Isaac was in Jerusalem, he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing a numbers of people. Judgment, you can’t miss it.
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So that's sort of a relief. The next time the Palestinians fire rockets into an Israeli neighborhood, just chalk it up to divine judgment.

[shropshire 0]

W.T.F are you lot letting yourself in for?

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[ryoder 1,590]

When a political leader tells us that because a politician wants something, (e.g. a pipeline or a war in Iraq), then it must be what God wants, I just want to run screaming in the opposite direction.

Thank you Mr. McCain, for making my decision on who to vote for, *so* much easier.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[ryoder 1,590]

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W.T.F are you lot letting yourself in for?

OK, here's the deal: We will trade you McCain, Palin, Biden, and Obama for any 4 of your politicians.

Oh, hell, tell you what; We'll give you the whole lot in exchange for Eddie Izzard.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[shropshire 0]

How about you take ours.... for free. Bargin.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[akarunway 1]

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W.T.F are you lot letting yourself in for?

OK, here's the deal: We will trade you McCain, Palin, Biden, and Obama for any 4 of your politicians.

Oh, hell, tell you what; We'll give you the whole lot in exchange for Eddie Izzard.

LMAO

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[quade 4]

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A preacher at that church said the following while Palin was in attendance:

Ya know what bill, I don't really care what anybody else said while she was in church 1,000,000th as much as I care what -she- said in church. She, just like Obama, can't control what other people say, but she sure as hell CAN control what -she- says.

Lemme tell ya, if a member of my family was killed and somebody said it was "God's Plan"; 1) I think I'd have to start punching that person in the face pretty hard and 2) stop all belief in "that" God.

Think about how pissed YOU have been when you've heard terrorists claim that they have been following "God's will."

Well, what she's just done is told all the families of civilian casualties and all of the families of OUR war dead in Iraq that exact thing.

Anytime, ANYTIME, I hear any "leader" claim God's authority to do anything, I shudder. Talk about "elitism." Talk about pretentiousness and the arrogance of knowing God's will.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[quade 4]

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Why is there a glass cage around the drum set in a church?

That's actually a not untypical way to control the sound of drums in a band. Her church plays "rock" music.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[billvon 3,006]

>Ya know what bill, I don't really care what anybody else said while she
>was in church 1,000,000th as much as I care what -she- said in church.

I agree! I look forward to the ever more byzantine and twisted rationales that will be put forth to explain why what is good for the goose is, indeed, not good for the gander.

[TheAnvil 0]

Not so twisted as the rationale that might have problem with what she said, I do believe. I think you heard what you want to hear - hoping for a "God damn America" no doubt - and not what she actually said.

What I heard is that Governor Palin hopes God had a plan for Iraq and that God's will be done, a pipeline would hopefully be laid. I also heard her clearly differentiate her role as governor from the role of the Church -a role for which she clearly had great zeal; nothing wrong with that.

How IS the reverend Wright these days? Doing well? And the Reverend Jack$on and his good friend Reverend $harpton? Mr. Farrakhan too - is he well? Do you think Governor Palin will deny knowing this pastor in whose church she spoke? Recant anything she said in that church? Do you think the pastor, Governor Palin, or other church leaders will call for its members to damn America, support racial discrimination, make anti-Semetic comments, or anything of that nature? Will the church pastor spit in someone's food because he doesn't like their color perchance?

Just curious.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[lawrocket 3]

So, is she hated because she's got religious reasons for her statements? Ir is she hated for the nature of her statements.

To me, overly religious causes some concern. Overly secular ALSO causes some concern to me, because it is "anti-religious." Instead of, "Death to Israel and America and all of the enemies of Islam" it seems to be, "Death to all Christians and overtly religious people, unless the religion has a Tibetan dude as a leader."

I'm frankly a bit more concerned about my tax burden than whether a candidate is religious. I think this focus on, "OH MY! HER RELIGION!!!" is as misguided as, "JEREMIAH WRIGHT! THE HORROR!!!"

What the fuck? She's in a church, for crying out loud. Why don't we talk about what they are gonna do for/to us instead of focusing on religion.

Look - this country was FOUNDED by religious nuts with guns. I'm atheist, but it doesn't mean I am a hater of the religious.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[akarunway 1]

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Not so twisted as the rationale that might have problem with what she said, I do believe. I think you heard what you want to hear - hoping for a "God damn America" no doubt - and not what she actually said.

What I heard is that Governor Palin hopes God had a plan for Iraq and that God's will be done, a pipeline would hopefully be laid. I also heard her clearly differentiate her role as governor from the role of the Church -a role for which she clearly had great zeal; nothing wrong with that.

How IS the reverend Wright these days? Doing well? And the Reverend Jack$on and his good friend Reverend $harpton? Mr. Farrakhan too - is he well? Do you think Governor Palin will deny knowing this pastor in whose church she spoke? Recant anything she said in that church? Do you think the pastor, Governor Palin, or other church leaders will call for its members to damn America, support racial discrimination, make anti-Semetic comments, or anything of that nature? Will the church pastor spit in someone's food because he doesn't like their color perchance?

Just curious.

Wow. Just, WOW. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_wise_monkeys

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[quade 4]

I can't speak for other people, only myself.

I don't dislike religious people, in fact I respect them for their faith, which I simply can't have.

What I -do- dislike is anyone that uses their religion as an excuse to exercise power over other people. I especially hate, for instance televangelists that use religion as an excuse to bilk little old ladies out of the last few dollars in their bank account. I hate, politicians that use religion as an excuse to to go war.

I guess I'm a little bit like some of our country's founding fathers in that respect. I don't see where the authority of anyone is simply handed down from God as it was in Jolly Old England's Monarchy. (Sorry John . . . )

Also, I really have to take exception with this constant idea that people keep bringing up that the country was founded by religious people when, in fact, it was mostly a business proposition. Sure, the people were religious, but for the most part that's not why most of them were here. Jamestown wasn't settled by people fleeing religious persecution, they were looking for gold. New York wasn't about religious freedom, it was about fur. People were here to make MONEY and a crap ton of it at that in tobacco, rum and slaves. Also, in of all things, pine tar. Very, very few people ever came to the US to flee religious persecution.

The entire line of reasoning that it was founded as a "Christian" nation is pure BS. It was founded as a business proposition and a chunk of people happened to be religious, but many of the founding fathers weren't at all. Oh sure they'd show up to church on some holidays to make it look good, but for the most part they were making bank.

I'll give it to you though . . . they did have guns, but mostly because they didn't have McDonalds. In other words, they had guns to hunt, not to over throw King George or any other such bullshit such as so they would always keep the "government" in fear of an uprising and thereby keep them in their place or anything else, but simply because if they didn't have guns, they didn't eat meat. I will grant that the guns came in handy during the Revolutionary war -- great -- fine example of using what you have on hand, but that's NOT why they had guns.

Anyway . . . looking forward to your comments.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[TheAnvil 0]

I ask eight questions and get zero answers. Many of them yes or no.

Do you not like my questions? Or is it what the answers infer about your argument that you don't like?

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[Butters 0]

The separation of church and state is an illusion ...

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[billvon 3,006]

>> I look forward to the ever more byzantine and twisted rationales . . .

>What I heard . . .

Cool. Not even two posts!

The preacher in question said that Israel was receiving divine judgment for not being of the true faith, and that terrorist attacks by the Palestinians were part of that judgment. Spin that however you like; doesn't change what he said.

And as Quade pointed out, what both he and Wright said doesn't matter much.

One nice thing about the latest Palin debacle is that we may just see some GOPers admitting that what a preacher says on stage really doesn't matter all that much, even if that candidate was in the audience.

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Thank you Mr. McCain, for making my decision on who to vote for, *so* much easier.

I have strong primal inclinations to vote for McCain, but Palin is wearing me down fast.

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>> I look forward to the ever more byzantine and twisted rationales . . .

>What I heard . . .

Cool. Not even two posts!

The preacher in question said that Israel was receiving divine judgment for not being of the true faith, and that terrorist attacks by the Palestinians were part of that judgment. Spin that however you like; doesn't change what he said.

And as Quade pointed out, what both he and Wright said doesn't matter much.

One nice thing about the latest Palin debacle is that we may just see some GOPers admitting that what a preacher says on stage really doesn't matter all that much, even if that candidate was in the audience.

Indeed, we should worry about what the candidate says:

Anchorage Daily News (October 2006) "Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?"

Palin: "Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now -- while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."

Ummm- Sarah, that would be the Bridge to Nowhere that you NOW claim to have opposed.

"explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support", Eagle Forum, 2006

Eagle Forum: “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
Palin: "If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me".

Hey, Sarah, which of the founding fathers was still alive in 1954?

Palin: "With the exception of a doctor’s determination that the mother’s life would end if the pregnancy continued. I believe that no matter what mistakes we make as a society, we cannot condone ending an innocent’s life". Eagle Forum 2006

So society's mistakes should force a rape victim to bear the child of the rapist, Sarah?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[AWL71 0]

"Now that Alaska is front and center in the news again, it is a good time to catch up on a favorite story, The Bridge to Nowhere, using the Washington Post US Congress Votes Database.

Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, chosing to spend Federal money on other infrasturcture programs.

However, Sen. Biden and Sen. Obama voted for funding the Bridge, even when given a second chance by Sen. Tom Coburn, who proposed shifting earmark funds to Katrina relief.

Sen. McCain did not vote on the Coburn Amendment, though he is on record as opposing the Ketchikan bridge earmark."

Source: Chicago Daily Observer.

Imagine that. Obama and Biden voted for the bridge to nowhere.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[masterrig 1]

Gee-whiz... maybe, she could pray that the Lower 48 get some of that oil from the Alaska pipeline, too!


Chuck

[billvon 3,006]

>Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the
>Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, chosing to
>spend Federal money on other infrasturcture programs.

Cool, so now you're admitting that she actually supported it before she opposed it - and then she still took the money.

>However, Sen. Biden and Sen. Obama voted for funding the Bridge . . .

Right. Did they claim they didn't?

[skydyvr 0]

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Eagle Forum: “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
Palin: "If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me".

Hey, Sarah, which of the founding fathers was still alive in 1954?

Seems to be a common misconception, this Pledge thing . . . but to see it in a VP candidate? Not so good.

I see a new Quayle shaping up for the lefties to kick around if Obama loses.

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