Libertarians for Obama

[akarunway 1]

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In general, if you cut copy and paste the first few lines into Google, it will give you the source pretty quickly.

Yeah, but Google is one of those evil data collecting corporations...

Thanks for the link.

If you're not hiding anything you have nothing to worry about.

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>Or...vote for the Libertarian candidate?

Or you could do that. Heck, vote for Ron Paul; you can still write him in.

Anything but believe the kind of bullshit fraud that Libertarian ideals would be best served by a gun-banning socialist shitbrain demagogue smiling liar.

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What a fucktard. Vote for someone who supports socialization of medicine and more entitlement programs vice Congress' chief critic of earmark spending? In hopes of restoring budget sanity?

Sweet Jesus! Fidiot!

Sounds like what Clinton did and the result was:

- unemp 7% to 4%

- DJI from 3500 to 9800

- Annual deficit from -290B to +236B

- Debt from an annual increase of 250B o an increase of 33B


Not sure what you consider success; GWB who will preside of a debt increase of 4.5 trillion $ in 8 years, 1 1/2 times that of 12 years of Reagan/Bush.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At some point you have to go with the chance of something better instead of sticking with the proven disaster.


INSANITY: trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.


....of course there were people that followed Hitler to the grave feeling as though he was just misunderstood.....it all starts with nationalism.........

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Sounds like what Clinton did and the result was:

- Annual deficit from -290B to +236B

Clinton counted imaginary money in his so-called "budget surplus."

It was smoke-and-fuckin'-mirrors. It was chicanery. It was bullshit. It was not a surplus.

When you figure out your household budget this month, be sure to add in the + column the $15,000 you'd sell your 3-year-old SUV for, even though you won't be selling it and you won't be getting that money to put into your accounts. That's the kind of thing that Clinton did with NY's Governor's Island. Acted as though the government were in possession of the proceeds of the sale of it, even though there was no buyer and no sale on the horizon. How many other such examples were used to pad his "surplus" I don't know, but I imagine the answer is probably "many."

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Proven disaster?


By that Bill meant the Republican Party; can you argue that teh debt increase and overall economic health of the US since Reagan has been generally horrible and that the Republicans are to blame?


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Odd. John McCain has been a long time advocate for spending restraint.


Just sucks that his mouth and his actions are strangers. He votes 95% With your president.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>With regard to earmarks, perhaps you should read up a bit on John McCain's running mate:


Why She has no decision-making powers. The, "decider" has all that.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And on Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama as well WRT earmark spending...though I'll grant you Sen. Obama's is a bit skewed due to his very, very, very limited time in the Senate.


IOW's, you can't make an argument against Obama, but you feel the need to pipe in, so you give us nothing.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But that makes Sen. McCain's record oh so much more impressive given his vast experience in comparison to his opponent.


They're both senators, what's your point? That's like saying a guy with 500 jumps is so much more inferior to that of a guy with 1,000 jumps; it's still jumping.

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Sounds like what Clinton did and the result was:

- Annual deficit from -290B to +236B

Clinton counted imaginary money in his so-called "budget surplus."

It was smoke-and-fuckin'-mirrors. It was chicanery. It was bullshit. It was not a surplus.

When you figure out your household budget this month, be sure to add in the + column the $15,000 you'd sell your 3-year-old SUV for, even though you won't be selling it and you won't be getting that money to put into your accounts. That's the kind of thing that Clinton did with NY's Governor's Island. Acted as though the government were in possession of the proceeds of the sale of it, even though there was no buyer and no sale on the horizon. How many other such examples were used to pad his "surplus" I don't know, but I imagine the answer is probably "many."

So then the surplus that Buhs gave back really wasn't a surplus and he gave us money from the gov that really wasn't theirs either?


Also, if Clintn didn't create a surplus, how was it that the debt went from 250b/yr to 33B/yr and shrinking every year of the 8 years he was in office?

[marks2065 0]

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Sounds like what Clinton did and the result was:

- Annual deficit from -290B to +236B

Clinton counted imaginary money in his so-called "budget surplus."

It was smoke-and-fuckin'-mirrors. It was chicanery. It was bullshit. It was not a surplus.

When you figure out your household budget this month, be sure to add in the + column the $15,000 you'd sell your 3-year-old SUV for, even though you won't be selling it and you won't be getting that money to put into your accounts. That's the kind of thing that Clinton did with NY's Governor's Island. Acted as though the government were in possession of the proceeds of the sale of it, even though there was no buyer and no sale on the horizon. How many other such examples were used to pad his "surplus" I don't know, but I imagine the answer is probably "many."

So then the surplus that Buhs gave back really wasn't a surplus and he gave us money from the gov that really wasn't theirs either?


Also, if Clintn didn't create a surplus, how was it that the debt went from 250b/yr to 33B/yr and shrinking every year of the 8 years he was in office?

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that is still a deficit. 250 or 33 is still negative. and my bring home pay kept shrinking. I had to work 2 jobs and have a roomate to pay my bills. you wonder why the economy tanked after he left office?

[jcd11235 0]

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Clinton counted imaginary money in his so-called "budget surplus."

It was smoke-and-fuckin'-mirrors. It was chicanery. It was bullshit. It was not a surplus.

Do a search. It has been discussed several times, and Clinton's budget surplus was, in fact, very real.

When are you going to pay me the money you owe me? What happened to personal responsibility?

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Also, if Clintn didn't create a surplus, how was it that the debt went from 250b/yr to 33B/yr and shrinking every year of the 8 years he was in office?

It didn't. Clinton oversaw a budget surplus* for FY1998-FY2000 (and signed a budget that offered a surplus in FY 2001), not a debt reduction. The national debt increased every year of his presidency.

* There was only an on budget and off budget surplus in FY1999 and FY2000.

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[TomAiello 26]

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A college professor making a case for a democrat candidate? Say it ain't so!!

Libertarian and Liberal Democrat...yeah, that isn't much of a mix.

In his defense, George Mason is a notoriously Libertarian institution, and this particular professor is really a bona fide Libertarian intellectual.

-- Tom Aiello

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