Palin website

[ianmdrennan 2]

So in light of the Sarah Palin discussions I've taken more of an interest in her, and her stances on things. I recently came across this line
http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm and while it's obviously written from a very anti-hunting point of view, it does have some interesting links to Sarah's history of abusing power, or using religious beliefs to encourage censorship.

Frankly, I'm not a fan at all so far. IF anyone is familiar with Donnie Darko, I keep getting the impression that she's like the character that Beth Grant played (the ultra conservative school teacher).

Ian

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[normiss 855]

wow.
Nice spread of rumor there.

Could this be considered abuse of YOUR position???

[AWL71 0]

No doubt, I think the OP could find better sources of information regarding Palin.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[ianmdrennan 2]

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wow.
Nice spread of rumor there.

Could this be considered abuse of YOUR position???

LOL - not sure how it's rumor given the article citings. Not to mention that it's common knowledge she's being investigated for abuse of power.

As for the moderator quip, I must have missed the memo where we're not allowed to have an opinion on someone - I'll check the power abuse forums just to be sure though I'm pretty sure you're just plain old out of luck on that one though

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[airdvr 210]

John Kallend...calling John Kallend. You want to handle this?

Please don't dent the planet.

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[ianmdrennan 2]

I guess, since no-one is providing any sort of intelligent rebuttle, or statement proving the alleged 'falsehoods' then it must be true?

Bueller? Bueller?

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[ianmdrennan 2]

Palin Investigation links

http://www.ktva.com/ci_10026165
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/09/palin_investigation_to_be_rele.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-faces-ethics_n_122615.html

btw, I'm not saying she is or isn't guilty. But I certainly remember a big hoopla around Obama and his tie to someone who had done illegal dealings.

Ian

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[normiss 855]

His favorite of late is factcheck.org
It cites plenty of reasons to not believe the rubbish being spewed here.

and I'm always out of luck with moderators here!

[AWL71 0]

I'm sure he will be here soon enough and make his standard Palin comments about her position on abortions.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[JackC 0]

Blimey, she's a proper nut case.

[AWL71 0]

Why is she a nutcase? Because she disagrees with you outlook on life? Because she has a strong belief in God?

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[shropshire 0]

Yes

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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His favorite of late is factcheck.org
It cites plenty of reasons to not believe the rubbish being spewed here.

and I'm always out of luck with moderators here!

factcheck.org debunks her book-banning and creationism-pushing rumors.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

i'm also predicting that the abuse of power investigation will turn up no wrong doing on her part as well. it doesn't matter though, there are many people who would hate the republican ticket no matter who they are and will readily believe anything bad about them.

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[Thanatos340 1]

First, I am NOT a fan of many of Palins Political views. She is the type of Republican that I think gives Conservatives a bad name.

But in response to that site and their claims:
1) She is presently under investigation in Alaska for abuse of power.
True. Every knows this but "Under Investigation For" and "Guilty of" are two totally different things. As of now, She has not been found guilty of.

2) She offered a bounty of $150 for each right front leg of freshly killed wolves.
If you have a Wolf Problem where they are putting Humans in Danger, I see nothing at all wrong with this. I love animals too (Especially the Tasty ones) but I always put Humans before animals. Offering a reward like this is not unheard of when trying to reduce animals that have become a threat.

3) She is opposed to abortion even in cases of rape and incest.
True. And this is the main reason I could never fully support her.

4) She is a champion for big oil and supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and everywhere else.
So are MANY people. Drill NOW!!

5) She believes creationism should be taught in public schools.
As long as it is balanced by teaching also teaching evolution, I see nothing wrong with that. The VAST majority of the people in this country believe that God Created the earth.

6) She believes man-made global warming is a farce.
Ok.. Get with the times. Global Warming is no longer the Alarmist Phrase of choice since it has been proven to be less than accurate. The correct Alarmist wording is now "Climate Change".
She is far from the only one that thinks Man-Made Global Warming is a load of horse shit.

7) She is opposed to listing the polar bear as an endangered species because she thinks it will limit oil exploitation.
Hmmm.. Can you Spotted Owl?? I Knew you could.

8) While mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire the city librarian because the librarian refused to censor books.
What Books do belong in a public Library? Where do you draw the line? Should we have Hustler in periodicals section right beside Time and Newsweek? Hey It might get the kids back into the library.
How about the Anarchist Cookbook? Bomb Building 101?
Where do YOU draw the line?

9) She supports aerial hunting of wolves and bears even though Alaskans voted twice to ban the practice.
If the purpose is to Kill predatory animals that endanger People, Use a Plane, Train, Grenade.. Whatever it takes to get the job done.

10) She used $400,000 of state money to fund a media campaign in support of aerial hunting.
Using state money to support a state program?? Wow.


Again.. I do NOT support Palin but if you are going to bash her, Alot better can be found than that site.

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5) She believes creationism should be taught in public schools.
As long as it is balanced by teaching also teaching evolution, I see nothing wrong with that. The VAST majority of the people in this country believe that God Created the earth.

Then it's about time THEY became educated

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[normiss 855]

Coming from a voice in the UK...that's FUNNY right there.

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factcheck.org debunks her book-banning and creationism-pushing rumors.

Only certain versions of the rumor were debunked. The underlying incidents that led to the rumor are valid. From the link:

The librarian was fired, but was told only that Palin felt she didn’t support her. She was re-hired the next day. The librarian never claimed that Palin threatened outright to fire her for refusing to ban books.

It’s true that Palin did raise the issue with Mary Ellen Emmons, Wasilla’s librarian, on at least two occasions, three in some versions.

And while she hasn't been a "creationist pusher" with regard to legislation, she did state that she thought it should be taught in schools.

So in both cases the rumor is basically an overblown representation of an actual event. See her "thanks but no thanks" talking point for a similar example.

[shropshire 0]

oh you're mean

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[normiss 855]

direct quote from factcheck.org

"Emmons continued to serve as librarian until August 1999, when the Chicago Tribune reports that she resigned"

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4) She is a champion for big oil and supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and everywhere else.
So are MANY people. Drill NOW!!

I know this is really for another thread but I thought I'd point out that OPEC is cutting back on production because of higher inventories.

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direct quote from factcheck.org

"Emmons continued to serve as librarian until August 1999, when the Chicago Tribune reports that she resigned"

Mine was also a direct quote from factcheck.org.

[normiss 855]

so it seems with MANY of the web sites spewing "facts" these days.
Thank you so very much for being what appears to be only the second person on here to catch that.

nice

[normiss 855]

I just haven't had a chance to jab you for awhile now.

[shropshire 0]

the bruises were starting to heal too.... where's that Lanocaine?

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[jenfly00 0]

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His favorite of late is factcheck.org
It cites plenty of reasons to not believe the rubbish being spewed here.

and I'm always out of luck with moderators here!

factcheck.org debunks her book-banning and creationism-pushing rumors.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

Another dishonest (or at least, woefully ignorant) response.

The article stated "tried to fire the city librarian because the librarian refused to censor books" [quite true]. There was no claim to a specific list of books your cite refers to.

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