Obama and the home-grown terrorists...not just neighbors.

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Ayers-Dohrn-Obama Tie Shouldn’t Be Dismissed

As everyone concentrates on Bill Ayers, a bigger story may be Obama's link to Ayers' wife, Bernardine Dohrn.

October 6, 2008 - by Bob Owens


Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has consistently tried to discount the depth of his relationship with Bill Ayers, one of the founding members of the Weather Underground, a radical left-wing terrorist group that formed in 1969 and was most famous for a string of bombings in the 1970s.

Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin hammered Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn over the weekend, stating that the Democratic presidential candidate “palled around with terrorists.”

Obama campaign manager David Axelrod and other campaign surrogates are now furtively trying to claim today that Obama “didn’t know the history” of Ayers and Dohrn as the leaders of America’s most infamous left-wing terrorist group when Obama met at their home for a political “coming out” in 1995, but their attempt to make pretend that Barack Obama didn’t know of their terrorist past is laughable.

By 1995, Barack Obama had known Bill Ayers at least eight years since their shared involvement in the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools, if not longer. Bernardine Dohrn, once labeled “the most dangerous woman in America” by none other than J. Edgar Hoover, was also well known as the inspiration for the 1988 movie Running on Empty. Subtle terrorists they were not.

As noted in the New York Times, Obama has tried to minimize his relationship with Ayers, dismissing him as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.”

Axelrod also tried to excuse the extent of Obama’s involvement with Ayers, stating, “Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school. … They’re certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together.”

It’s an obvious fiction pitched by Axelrod, since the Obama children are presently in elementary school, while Ayers’ children are all grown adults, but the Ayers-Obama family connection doesn’t stop at the imaginary connections between the children.

Bernardine Dohrn, Ayers’ wife, has largely escaped recent scrutiny, but that lack of attention doesn’t reduce her role as either a leader — and some may argue, the leader — of the Weathermen. Nor can it mask her ties to both Barack and Michelle Obama. It’s now a family affair.

According to a reputable Pajamas Media source that wishes to remain anonymous and knew the Dohrn family, Bernardine Dohrn “always believes the ends justify the means” and is the head of the Ayers-Dohrn household. Dohrn was the violent, arguably pathological Leninist core of the Revolutionary Youth Movement, which led her and allied militants to fight for control of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). The SDS split as a result of the Dohrn-led revolt and the Revolutionary Youth Movement split again, with Dohrn’s faction becoming the Weather Underground.

For those of you unfamiliar with Dohrn and her special love of violence in the name of radicalism, one need look no further than her December 1969 rant celebrating the brutal Tate-LaBianca murders with the exhortation, “Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!” According to Discover the Networks, Dohrn had even less sympathy for those who were on the receiving end of the Weathermen’s violence:

A Chicago district attorney named Richard Elrod was seriously injured in the Weatherman riot that erupted during the Chicago “Days of Rage” in October 1969, and he was paralyzed for life as a result. Dohrn later led a celebration of Elrod’s paralysis by leading her comrades in a parody of a Bob Dylan song — “Lay, Elrod, Lay.”

Dohrn was a principal signatory of a Declaration of War against “AmeriKKKa” — now a standard spelling among far-left radicals — and co-authored Prairie Fire: The Politics of Anti-Imperialism. Dohrn participated in multiple bombings and was accused of planting a bomb at a San Francisco police station that killed an officer and maimed others, according to an FBI informant.

Once her days as an active terrorist were over, Bernardine Dohrn was employed by prestigious law firm Sidley & Austin from 1984 to 1988. Dohrn had been hired by Howard Trienens, the head of the firm and an associate of Thomas G. Ayers, Bill Ayers’ father. It is unclear whether Obama knew the former fugitive Dohrn through Sidley & Austin but there is no doubt that, by the time Obama joined Sidley & Austin as a summer associate, Obama had known Bill Ayers for two years through their involvement in Alliance for Better Chicago Schools.

Ayers and Dohrn infamously played host and hostess to Barack Obama’s political “coming out” with a meeting at their home, where outgoing State Senator Alice Palmer tapped Barack Obama to be her handpicked successor.

Other direct connections between the Obamas and the Ayers are much harder to discern and have never been thoroughly investigated.

In reading Saturday’s New York Times article noted above, a reader might be left with the impression that the terrorist organization headed by Ayers and Dohrn was engaged in little more than pranks, with a deprecating, “Most of the bombs the Weathermen were blamed for had been placed to do only property damage,” starting the solitary paragraph that mentions just three of the group’s specific attacks.

That the Weathermen — and specifically Obama fundraising hostess Bernardine Dohrn — were accused of killing an officer in a police station bombing in San Francisco was downplayed, as too was the extent of the carnage planned for the Fort Dix dance terror plot in 1970. That the Weathermen tried to murder a judge and his family with fire bombs was somehow not mentioned at all, nor were later Weathermen-related bombings that occurred through Barack Obama’s continuing political radicalization during the early 1980s.

And just where was Barack Obama during the early 1980s?

Though the mainstream media has been curiously uninterested in Barack Obama’s undergraduate years, Obama spent two years at Occidental College developing into an activist and then transferred to Columbia University, graduating in 1983. Little more is known about Obama’s time at Columbia and he seems to avoid mentioning it as much as possible. The Columbia University wiki reports that Obama “repeatedly turned down requests to be the Class Day speaker in recent years, as well as general requests to appear from the College Democrats.” Obama finally gave a speech at Columbia on September 11, 2008, but did not take questions from the media. Obama has also turned down repeated requests to release his academic transcripts. What happened during his time at Columbia that caused Barack Obama to be so secretive and hold the school conspicuously at arm’s length?

Obama’s Columbia roommate Sohale Siddiqi — called “Sadek” in Dreams from My Father, and whose real name the Obama campaign sought to hide — revealed nothing damaging in an interview he did in May with the Associated Press, furthering the mystery. Two of Obama’s and Siddiqi’s other friends, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, have contributed the maximum individual amount allowed by law to the Obama campaign and the men have become bundlers for the Obama campaign, raising between $100,000 and $200,000 each.

The big question unasked by the media is if Barack Obama met Bill Ayers during the time both were in the Columbia University community at the same time that a splinter group of the Weathermen was still actively planting bombs. While the possibility has been suggested in blogs, there does not appear to be any record of any media directly asking Obama if he met Ayers in New York and if such a relationship spurred Obama to travel to Chicago to begin his career as a community organizer.

Barack Obama’s first known meetings with Bill Ayers would occur three years after Obama graduated from Columbia, in Chicago in 1987. Ayers was an activist in the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools. Community organizer Barack Obama’s Developing Communities Project was a member of that Alliance.

Barack Obama was not eight, but a 24-year-old community organizer in Chicago at the time of the Weathermen’s last attacks, and 29 when many of the last remnants of the Underground in the offshoot May 19th Communist Organization were sentenced to prison in 1990. (Former Weatherman Elizabeth Ann Duke is still a fugitive and wanted by the FBI.)

BarackObama.com, the campaign’s official website, offers up a “fact check” that Obama was just eight years old when the Weathermen were active in 1969. The Obama campaign has tried to use the founding date of the Weathermen as a touchstone, claiming that the acts of the group were something that happened “40 years ago” when Obama was a child. Far closer to the truth is the December 6, 1990, sentencing date of Weathermen Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans, when the last of the Weathermen were sentenced for their role in a string of bombings in the mid-1980s, including bombs that detonated at the National War College, the Washington Navy Yard Computing Center, the Washington Navy Yard Officers’ Club, New York City’s Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, the Israeli Aircraft Industries Building, New York City’s South African Consulate, and the United States Capitol Building.

Barack Obama’s ties to the Weathermen aren’t ties that were 40 years removed from a child’s experiences, but the conscious decision of a young radical to establish a relationship to an infamous terrorist because of shared ideology and interests.

Barack Obama never set any bombs. But he’s never had problems with associating with those who did.

"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

[billvon 2,991]

I think attempts to link Obama to Ayers are going to backfire big time. Once the McCain campaign starts trying that, people may start looking into McCain's associations, including his corrupt dealings with the Keating Five (the group that helped precipitate the last Wall Street crisis back in the late 80's) and Palin's association with the America-hating separatist group called the "Alaska Independence Party."

And whereas their attempt to link Obama to Ayers is little more substantial than "they knew each other so they must have been co-conspirators," McCain was formally reprimanded by the US Government and admitted wrongdoing.

Heck, there's hard evidence linking Palin and her husband to the AIP, whose founder was killed during an illegal plastic explosives sale gone bad. So if they really try this guilt-by-association thing, they are going to come out of it looking a lot worse than Obama in the eyes of voters.

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"Palin's association with the Alaska Independence Party"??? Pretty lame....already debunked just like the story about billing for rape kits, book banning, and the other nonsence.

McCain was part of the Keating Five but got a slap on the wrist by Congress...not the "US Government"

The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly intervening in 1987 on behalf of Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of a regulatory investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB). The FHLBB subsequently backed off taking action against Lincoln.

Lincoln Savings and Loan collapsed in 1989, at a cost of $2 billion to the federal government. Some 23,000 Lincoln bondholders were defrauded and many elderly investors lost their life savings. The substantial political contributions that Keating had made to each of the senators, totalling $1.3 million, attracted considerable public and media attention. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

All five of the senators involved served out their terms. Only Glenn and McCain ran for re-election, and they both succeeded. McCain would go on to become the Republican nominee for president in 2008.

Doesn't seem "to rise to the level of" long association with domestic terrorists, IMO

"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

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>"Palin's association with the Alaska Independence Party"??? Pretty
>lame....already debunked . . .

Uh, no. Proven by her own (recorded) words and her husband's admissions. Let me know if you would like the actual text of what she, her husband, and the AIP have to say about the issue.

>McCain was part of the Keating Five but got a slap on the wrist by Congress...
>not the "US Government."

Congress is the lawmaking part of the US government. He was reprimanded and admitted his poor judgment. There is no question whatsoever that he was close friends with Keating, that Keating paid him to help keep regulators off his back, and that in fact McCain did vote to reduce regulation in the savings and loan sector. (That, of course, led to a similar disaster as the one we are seeing now, albeit on a smaller scale.)

>Doesn't seem "to rise to the level of" long association with domestic
>terrorists, IMO

Hmm.

On the one hand we have a senator who was officially reprimanded by the US Senate for corruption when he was paid to pass laws favorable to the guy bribing him, resulting in a disaster similar to the one we face now. His chosen vice president was associated with a terrorist group in Alaska whose stated goal is tearing apart the United States.

On the other hand we have a senator who knew a guy.

Yep, that's going to work out well for them.

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OK, so Obama knows Ayers and Dohrn. Why exactly should I be afraid because of this? Are they all going to get together and bomb the Pentagon or something?

And I know about their past, but it seems to me that in the past twenty years or so that they have both worked in a not-so-radical way to help other people. So I really don't see it as a negative association.

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McCain's "associates" have bombed countless innocent folks, gotten over 4,000 of our citizens killed, a bunch of citizens from other nations killed and bankrupted America. They have ruined more lives in 8 years than any 1,000 Bill Ayers.

Point was??????

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Ayers-Dohrn-Obama Tie Shouldn’t Be Dismissed

Oh, c'mon. You could have just written that "Obama and Biden" sounds very similar to "Osama Bin Laden", and THIS should not be dismissed.

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>"Palin's association with the Alaska Independence Party"??? Pretty
>lame....already debunked . . .

Uh, no. Proven by her own (recorded) words and her husband's admissions. Let me know if you would like the actual text of what she, her husband, and the AIP have to say about the issue.

>McCain was part of the Keating Five but got a slap on the wrist by Congress...
>not the "US Government."

Congress is the lawmaking part of the US government. He was reprimanded and admitted his poor judgment. There is no question whatsoever that he was close friends with Keating, that Keating paid him to help keep regulators off his back, and that in fact McCain did vote to reduce regulation in the savings and loan sector. (That, of course, led to a similar disaster as the one we are seeing now, albeit on a smaller scale.)

>Doesn't seem "to rise to the level of" long association with domestic
>terrorists, IMO

Hmm.

On the one hand we have a senator who was officially reprimanded by the US Senate for corruption when he was paid to pass laws favorable to the guy bribing him, resulting in a disaster similar to the one we face now. His chosen vice president was associated with a terrorist group in Alaska whose stated goal is tearing apart the United States.

On the other hand we have a senator who knew a guy.

Yep, that's going to work out well for them.

More of that logical thinking stuff. Screws up the righties every time.

It really is easy to explain. One half of the population is of less than average intelligence. These are the people who are the Republican foundation. Too dumb to really think on their own, they parrot the talking points without any greater understanding of the big picture. Too stupid to vote in their own best interests, so they vote for those that sound good, but do nothing for them.

What kind of moron would vote for a party and platform that would TAX your employers contribution towards your health insurance as "ordinary income"?

What kind of moron would vote for a party and platform that wants to bring the same type of deregulation to the Medical Industry that they brought to the Banking Industry?

What kind of moron would vote for a party and platform that wants to eliminate all abortions, even in the case of rape or incest?

The kind of morons that support Palin/McCain, that's who. Because they really don't understand what they are voting for, but she's pretty and he was a POW. Thats all they comprehend.

The Dumbasses are dragging this country down...

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So. "Terrorist" has become the new "Communist". It was bound to happen.

Paging Joe McCarthy!

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I don't read lengthy diatribes, especially when I already know the basic premise isn't true.

How could Obama possibly have been a Weatherman, even if he'd wanted to ? The guy is younger than me and I was only in high school - no, JUNIOR high school, when the Weather Underground was raising hell.

Sarah Palin is a fucking liar and she knows it. They used to burn women like her at the stake, and maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to revive the custom just for her. Give the bitch a broom with a kick start and a headlight so she can fly home to her fucking igloo (yeah, I hate her THAT much).

What a DESPERATE campaign she and McCain are running, so utterly avoid of ANY ideas that they have to engage in character assaination while our economy is crumbling around us by the minute.

Excuse me, while I go write a check to the Obama-Biden campaign....

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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Excuse me, while I go write a check to the Obama-Biden campaign....

That’s okay the Palestinian’s have already covered you on the contributions.

Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

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Excuse me, while I go write a check to the Obama-Biden campaign....

That’s okay the Palestinian’s have already covered you on the contributions.

That's another Big Lie talking point McCain is pushing ... especially in Forida ... gee, I wonder why....

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That's another Big Lie talking point McCain is pushing ... especially in Forida ... gee, I wonder why....

Try again after reading THIS. So much for Florida and McCain, guess you need to look at Obama as the liar................AGAIN!

Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

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"I think attempts to link Obama to Ayers are going to backfire big time."

Amen , Bro!!!!

More SMEAR. Worthless SMEAR !

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