downwardspiral 0 #26 October 7, 2008 um there were 17 killed in the bombing of the USS Cole and that most definitely was a hostile action.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #27 October 7, 2008 and if Clinton and done his FUCKING Job Bush wouldn't have had any and the Towers would still be standing.. Clinton ande Gore still need to be hung for Treason.. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #28 October 7, 2008 Quoteum there were 17 killed in the bombing of the USS Cole and that most definitely was a hostile action. The table that the OP based his (mistaken) conclusions on seperates hostile military action and terrorist attacks. Under their criteria Clinton had 1 killed due to hostile action and 75 due to terrorist attacks.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #29 October 7, 2008 >and if Clinton and done his FUCKING Job Bush wouldn't have had any and the >Towers would still be standing.. If Bush had bothered to read the report that was titled "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN THE US" given to him a month before 9/11, instead of going back on vacation, it could have been avoided as well. The report outlined the possibility of Al Quaeda hijacking airliners and targeting New York buildings. But he didn't, unfortunately. He just went back to clearing brush. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #30 October 8, 2008 Fair enough. 17 Americans were killed in Mogudishu on October 3rd and 4th of 1993. Most definitely NOT in a terrorist attack.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #31 October 8, 2008 QuoteFair enough. 17 Americans were killed in Mogudishu on October 3rd and 4th of 1993. Most definitely NOT in a terrorist attack. I was wondering about that. It seems strange that they would classify that as terrorist action and all recent deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan (often fighting the same type of warlords, insurgents and militiamen) as hostile action. Still, despite that grey area it is clear that under Bush there have been much more military deaths, and vastly more deaths due to all forms of enemy action, and therefore the OPs claim falls flat on its face. Not that I'd expect him to recognise that.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #32 October 8, 2008 Quoteand if Clinton and done his FUCKING Job Bush wouldn't have had any and the Towers would still be standing.. Clinton ande Gore still need to be hung for Treason.. interview QuoteAs I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all its bragging... QuoteAfter a few blows, it forgot all about those titles and rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace, dragging the bodies of its soldiers. America stopped calling itself world leader and master of the new world order... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #33 October 8, 2008 Being in the military is inherently dangerous, even when we're not at war.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #34 October 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteFair enough. 17 Americans were killed in Mogudishu on October 3rd and 4th of 1993. Most definitely NOT in a terrorist attack. I was wondering about that. It seems strange that they would classify that as terrorist action and all recent deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan (often fighting the same type of warlords, insurgents and militiamen) as hostile action. Still, despite that grey area it is clear that under Bush there have been much more military deaths, and vastly more deaths due to all forms of enemy action, and therefore the OPs claim falls flat on its face. Not that I'd expect him to recognise that. I have to agree there is a tremendous difference between fatalities and casualties.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #35 October 8, 2008 Billy your smart, I know this but what happened? How can someone so smart get things so wrong? Then again there are millions just like you and the really scary thing is there are enough of you that a President and Vice President can commit treason and not get hung. Heck he can even disgrace the Oval Office commit Perjury and not get impeached. How is this Billy? MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #36 October 8, 2008 QuoteBilly your smart, I know this but what happened? How can someone so smart get things so wrong? Then again there are millions just like you and the really scary thing is there are enough of you that a President and Vice President can commit treason and not get hung. Heck he can even disgrace the Oval Office commit Perjury and not get impeached. How is this Billy? Kinda like Scooter Libby can be criminally convicted of the same and get a free ride by the guy he was vicariuously protecting. Clean your windows so you can take better shots. BTW, check history and learn about the impeachment process, Clinton was impeached by the House on 2 of 4 counts, just not convicted by the Senate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #37 October 8, 2008 QuoteBilly your smart, I know this but what happened? How can someone so smart get things so wrong? Then again there are millions just like you and the really scary thing is there are enough of you that a President and Vice President can commit treason and not get hung. Heck he can even disgrace the Oval Office commit Perjury and not get impeached. How is this Billy? Also, will you explain how Bush did nothing to even as much as address airport security for 7 months, 3 weeks from inauguration to 9/11? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pegandmeg 0 #38 October 8, 2008 Quoteum there were 17 killed in the bombing of the USS Cole and that most definitely was a hostile action. Um...read the table. That's listed as a terrorist attack. If you're of the opinion that terrorist attacks should not be separated from hostile action, fine. But if you add the two columns, Clinton's numbers are still well below Bush's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #39 October 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteum there were 17 killed in the bombing of the USS Cole and that most definitely was a hostile action. Um...read the table. That's listed as a terrorist attack. If you're of the opinion that terrorist attacks should not be separated from hostile action, fine. But if you add the two columns, Clinton's numbers are still well below Bush's. you don't make a habit of reading threads you engage in do you?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pegandmeg 0 #40 October 8, 2008 True, but I'm lacking time. Get online, get offline. Get on with my life. If I see something, I respond before reading the rest of the thread. I don't really care if someone has already said it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #41 October 8, 2008 You're just late to the party is all. A 30 second scan would have shown Jakee and I continued the discussion without you and came to a conclusion all neighborly like. Now if you have a response to that conclusion then I'd be happy to to further discuss this with you.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #42 October 8, 2008 >If I see something, I respond before reading . . . . Unfortunately true of a lot of people here (and a lot of people in the world at large.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
