piper17 1 #1 October 7, 2008 ACORN Vegas Office Raided in Voter Fraud Investigation ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters has been raided by Nevada authorities looking for evidence of voter fraud. AP Tuesday, October 07, 2008 LAS VEGAS -- Nevada state authorities are raiding the Las Vegas headquarters of an organization that works to get low-income people to vote. A Nevada secretary of state's office spokesman said Tuesday that investigators are looking for evidence of voter fraud at the office of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN. No one was at the ACORN office when state agents arrived with a search warrant and began carting records and documents away. Secretary of State spokesman Bob Walsh says ACORN is accused of submitting multiple voter registrations with false and duplicate names. The raid comes two months after state and federal authorities formed a task force to pursue election-fraud allegations in Nevada."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #2 October 7, 2008 Maybe Obama is needed to defend the criminals like he has in the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 October 7, 2008 Quote Maybe Obama is needed to defend the criminals like he has in the past. Nice comment. Bravo. Really takes into account the whole "innocent before proven guilty" thing.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 October 7, 2008 QuoteQuote Maybe Obama is needed to defend the criminals like he has in the past. Nice comment. Bravo. Really takes into account the whole "innocent before proven guilty" thing. OK...I'll give you that point if you'll admit the multitudes of ACORN employess who have been fined and even sentenced to jail for registration fraud.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #5 October 7, 2008 QuoteQuote Maybe Obama is needed to defend the criminals like he has in the past. Nice comment. Bravo. Really takes into account the whole "innocent before proven guilty" thing. this has been going on with acorn for years and there has been arrests and convictions with this group. Obama has helped them in the past with these types of problems. You are correct in inocent until proven guilty, but to many of this group is already guilty and that makes them guilty by association. you don't have to be part of the crime to punished for the crime, only part of the group. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 October 7, 2008 Quoteyou don't have to be part of the crime to punished for the crime, only part of the group. Well, now, there's a nifty bastardization of the meaning of "conspiracy". But hey, it's a nice sound byte, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #7 October 7, 2008 >you don't have to be part of the crime to punished for the crime, only >part of the group. Hmm. Does that mean that McCain should be punished for his membership in the Keating Five? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #8 October 7, 2008 Quote Hmm. Does that mean that McCain should be punished for his membership in the Keating Five? Membership? Nice try. He was punished.............now back to ObamaTime and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #9 October 7, 2008 Quote Quote Hmm. Does that mean that McCain should be punished for his membership in the Keating Five? Membership? Nice try. He was punished.............now back to Obama Was Obama a member of the Weather Underground then, at age 8? Is Ayers a convicted felon, like Keating?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #10 October 7, 2008 Catch up with the subject matter here, we are talking about ACORN Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #11 October 8, 2008 Quote Catch up with the subject matter here, we are talking about ACORN Who made you Emperor of the Internet? BTW, Keating IS a convicted felon, and Ayers is NOT. Ayers is a "Distinguished Professor" at the university ranked #8 in the entire nation. Keating is a disgraced felon.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #12 October 8, 2008 Quote Quote Catch up with the subject matter here, we are talking about ACORN Who made you Emperor of the Internet? BTW, Keating IS a convicted felon, and Ayers is NOT. Ayers is a "Distinguished Professor" at the university ranked #8 in the entire nation. Keating is a disgraced felon. Keating should have taken bomb making classes in college instead of business. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #13 October 8, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Catch up with the subject matter here, we are talking about ACORN Who made you Emperor of the Internet? BTW, Keating IS a convicted felon, and Ayers is NOT. Ayers is a "Distinguished Professor" at the university ranked #8 in the entire nation. Keating is a disgraced felon. Keating should have taken bomb making classes in college instead of business. Would have damaged fewer innocent people, wouldn't it?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #14 October 8, 2008 Funniest thing you've ever said. Says a huge amount of the term "Distinguished Professor" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #15 October 8, 2008 Quote Who made you Emperor of the Internet? He could not be that because trust me you are the true Emperor of the internet! Quote BTW, Keating IS a convicted felon, and Ayers is NOT That is only because of a technicalty that got him off. Do you really believe he is inocent??? Quote Ayers is a "Distinguished Professor" at the university ranked #8 in the entire nation. Keating is a disgraced felon. OMG now i know what kind of credentials professors have to have to be distinguished.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #16 October 8, 2008 Quote OMG now i know what kind of credentials professors have to have to be distinguished. I bet you get job offers from colleges looking for presidents every day of the week.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #17 October 8, 2008 Quote Quote OMG now i know what kind of credentials professors have to have to be distinguished. I bet you get job offers from colleges looking for presidents every day of the week. You made my night.....Thanks.... Is that all you can coment on?????? Trust me i am glad i dont have the "credentials" to get job offers from liberal colleges!!!!! Thanks but i would rather not indoctornate students!Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #18 October 8, 2008 Quote Quote Quote OMG now i know what kind of credentials professors have to have to be distinguished. I bet you get job offers from colleges looking for presidents every day of the week. You made my night.....Thanks.... Is that all you can coment on?????? Trust me i am glad i dont have the "credentials" to get job offers from liberal colleges!!!!! Thanks but i would rather not indoctornate students! Oh, I don't know about that, you could always teach spelin an gramer,... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 October 8, 2008 Quote Quote Catch up with the subject matter here, we are talking about ACORN Who made you Emperor of the Internet? BTW, Keating IS a convicted felon, and Ayers is NOT. Ayers is a "Distinguished Professor" at the university ranked #8 in the entire nation. Keating is a disgraced felon. Appeal to Authority.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #20 October 8, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Catch up with the subject matter here, we are talking about ACORN Who made you Emperor of the Internet? BTW, Keating IS a convicted felon, and Ayers is NOT. Ayers is a "Distinguished Professor" at the university ranked #8 in the entire nation. Keating is a disgraced felon. Appeal to Authority. I think we're discussing guilt by association, not the finer points of logical fallacy. McCain helped Keating rob people of their life savings. Obama and Ayers worked on the same board to improve local schools. If you can produce the evidence that 8 year old Obama helped Ayers make bombs, I'll concede that you have a point. Until then it's guilt by association and character assassination.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 October 8, 2008 Scramble some more, Professor - it's fun to watch. Keating wasn't a convicted felon at the time of his association with McCain. Bill Ayers was a self-described terrorist and communist well BEFORE his association with Obama. But, back to ACORN - remind me again WHICH candidate had to give back some $800k to ACORN?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #22 October 8, 2008 QuoteScramble some more, Professor - it's fun to watch. Keating wasn't a convicted felon at the time of his association with McCain. Bill Ayers was a self-described terrorist and communist WELL before his association with Obama. Yes, he got that out of his system while Obama was in grade school. McCain helped Keating rob 23,000 people of their savings. Obama helped Ayers improve schools. Take a look at the polls. The scrambling is all on the GOP side. Guilt by association went out of style after the McCarthy era. It won't work and makes you look silly.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #23 October 8, 2008 QuoteI think we're discussing guilt by association, not the finer points of logical fallacy. Gee, I missed the boat on that one-I thought that the discussion was about ACORN.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #24 October 8, 2008 You are absolutely wrong...and I'm sure that you know it. McCain was exonerated in the Keating 5 mess...as was John Glenn, one of the four Dems. Even Dem lawyer Bob Bennett who headed up the investigation into the Keating 5 said that McCain was innocent. His only "crime" was being the only Republican of the 5 and Congress was not going to allow only Dems to take the fall. I'm sure it is hard to admit the truth of this matter but it is the first step on the road to recovery. Give it a try."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #25 October 8, 2008 QuoteKeating wasn't a convicted felon at the time of his association with McCain. But he was actively in the process of the thievery of which he was convicted while he was associated with McCain. Keating used, or certainly tried to use, that very association with McCain to facilitate his thievery. QuoteBill Ayers was a self-described terrorist and communist well BEFORE his association with Obama. But Ayers's criminal acts ended 30 years earlier (when Obama was a child), and Ayers did not use his association with Obama to facilitate his long-past criminal acts. The rocket Neil Armstrong rode to the moon was developed by Werner von Braun, a Nazi who developed the V-1 and V-2 rockets for Hitler. There is no way every astronaut, engineer and administrator at NASA did not know this. Are we to make a guilt by association argument about Armstrong arising from this fact? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
