Hey Diebold- "That's a pretty big glitch"

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Diebold has since notified more than 30 states to be on the lookout for missing votes.

That just sounds like the opening line to a BUNCH of new nightshow punchlines...

"Computer scientists have shown that electronic voting machines are easy to hack. And voters report errors like vote flipping, in which the vote they cast for one candidate is recorded for another. Ohio’s secretary of state, Jennifer Brunner, is suing Diebold over the vote-dropping and noted that its machines crashed repeatedly during last year’s voting in Cuyahoga County."

Is this a good time to mention the cozy relationships between county/state/federal officials and voting machine makers/software companies?

Also, unaired video from ex-diebold employee ->Chris Hood

[kelpdiver 2]

And yet so many people wish to jump over to a popular vote to elect the President.

I'll accept all apologies, now.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

In my country we use a pencil and a piece of paper.

[normiss 806]

Your chad is dangling!

[Amazon 7]

Hey.. if we are so busy trying to spread democracy around the world.. I think what is good enough for them is good enough for us...

Scrap the electronics.. Put a paper ballot in a box.. and recieve a purple thumb showing you have voted.

This also has an effect of immediately showing us who all the apathetic asshats are who dont bother to vote.. and then bitch about their government.

[kallend 2,028]

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Diebold has since notified more than 30 states to be on the lookout for missing votes.

That just sounds like the opening line to a BUNCH of new nightshow punchlines...

"Computer scientists have shown that electronic voting machines are easy to hack. And voters report errors like vote flipping, in which the vote they cast for one candidate is recorded for another. Ohio’s secretary of state, Jennifer Brunner, is suing Diebold over the vote-dropping and noted that its machines crashed repeatedly during last year’s voting in Cuyahoga County."

Is this a good time to mention the cozy relationships between county/state/federal officials and voting machine makers/software companies?

Also, unaired video from ex-diebold employee ->Chris Hood

Would this be the same Diebold whose CEO, Walden O'Dell, hosted a $1000 a plate dinner to benefit Republican G.W. Bush's 2004 reelection campaign?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Would this be the same Diebold whose CEO, Walden O'Dell, hosted a $1000 a plate dinner to benefit Republican G.W. Bush's 2004 reelection campaign?

Something like the (claimed by kallend) conservative Murdoch hosting a breakfast fundraiser for Hillary Clinton?

Something like Murdoch's daughter hosting a $1000/plate dinner for Obama (VIP reception access was an extra $2300)?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[tkhayes 348]

as a new citizen who gets to vote this year, I am already simply amazed (and appalled) at the voting system, how it varies from county to county even, and the shit that is so broken but no one seems to care if it is fixed, unless of course they get to fix it so it benefits one side or the other.

The pencil and piece of paper, purple thumb is probably the EASIEST system you could come up with. And if we are voting for the President, since that is federal, why would I have to register at all? I should be able to simply prove that I am a citizen when I show up at the polls and get to vote, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME

Federal elections should not be run by county officials, who are also elected. It is completely corrupt already. State officials seemingly do little to ensure that EVERYONE gets to vote, they are more concerned with finding ways to STOP people from voting.

And anyone can challenge my registration without my knowledge. something broken there too.

ridiculous.

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as a new citizen who gets to vote this year, I am already simply amazed (and appalled) at the voting system, how it varies from county to county even, and the shit that is so broken but no one seems to care if it is fixed, unless of course they get to fix it so it benefits one side or the other.

The pencil and piece of paper, purple thumb is probably the EASIEST system you could come up with. And if we are voting for the President, since that is federal, why would I have to register at all? I should be able to simply prove that I am a citizen when I show up at the polls and get to vote, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME

Federal elections should not be run by county officials, who are also elected. It is completely corrupt already. State officials seemingly do little to ensure that EVERYONE gets to vote, they are more concerned with finding ways to STOP people from voting.

And anyone can challenge my registration without my knowledge. something broken there too.

ridiculous.

Re-read the Constitution. You vote for your STATE ELECTORS, not for President.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[kallend 2,028]

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Would this be the same Diebold whose CEO, Walden O'Dell, hosted a $1000 a plate dinner to benefit Republican G.W. Bush's 2004 reelection campaign?

Something like the (claimed by kallend) conservative Murdoch hosting a breakfast fundraiser for Hillary Clinton?

Something like Murdoch's daughter hosting a $1000/plate dinner for Obama (VIP reception access was an extra $2300)?

Does Murdoch's company make voting machines?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Would this be the same Diebold whose CEO, Walden O'Dell, hosted a $1000 a plate dinner to benefit Republican G.W. Bush's 2004 reelection campaign?

Something like the (claimed by kallend) conservative Murdoch hosting a breakfast fundraiser for Hillary Clinton?

Something like Murdoch's daughter hosting a $1000/plate dinner for Obama (VIP reception access was an extra $2300)?

Does Murdoch's company make voting machines?

No - they're the ones you say are in the tank for the conservatives.

Whups.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[tkhayes 348]

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And if we are voting for the President,

let me correct that:
If we are voting in a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.......

nit pick all you want, the arguement is valid and the system is at least partially broken.

[piper17 1]

Is this the same Jennifer Brunner, secretary of state for Ohio???

Court Finds Brunner in Violation of Federal Law
Secretary of State appeals ruling, fights effort to validate registrations

(Columbus) - A federal court ruled tonight that Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner violated federal election laws by not taking adequate steps to validate the identity of newly registered voters.

The ruling from U.S. District Court Judge George C. Smith called the identification breakdown “a serious problem” and ordered Brunner to immediately comply with federal requirements to match voter registration data with the information in the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles and Social Security Administration databases. The court accused Brunner of failing to provide county election administrators with “an effective way to access and review mismatches.” She immediately appealed the ruling.

“For some reason, Jennifer Brunner does not want these new registrations checked,” said Ohio Republican Party Deputy Chairman Kevin DeWine. “Her refusal to comply with federal law raises serious concerns about her ability to objectively oversee this election. It’s especially troubling in light of her connection to ACORN and that group’s stunning confession this week of fraudulent registration activity happening right here in Ohio.”

Brunner’s effort to fight the court order comes just two days after the Democrat activist group ACORN admitted to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections that the group engages in fraudulent voter registration activity.

Ohio ACORN officials “blamed the elections board for not scrutinizing ACORN’s suspicious cards,” claiming the group “can’t be expected to catch everything.”

ACORN is facing similar inquires in other Ohio counties as well as 10 other states. Members of the group’s “voter-mobilization arm,” Project Vote, regularly advise Brunner on election strategy, even recently issuing a news release that claims credit for Brunner’s directive restricting challenges to suspected fraudulent voter registrations. Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama also has strong ties to ACORN, working previously as an attorney and “leadership trainer” for the group.

and this....

The Columbus Dispatch, 5/9/07: In what might be a Franklin County first, a Reynoldsburg man was indicted yesterday for voting twice in the November election. … [An attorney] said Gilbert was registered in both counties by ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a nonprofit agency that has come under fire in 12 states for voter fraud.

Associated Press, 9/20/06: The mother of a 16-year-old has told the Summit County elections board that her daughter was registered to vote, just two months after a 10-year-old boy was summoned for jury duty because he was on the county’s voter rolls. …The board plans to issue subpoenas to the girl and the person who filed the voter registration application, Prentice McNary of Akron, a circulator paid by Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, [board director Bryan] Williams said.

The Columbus Dispatch, 9/1/06: Concerns about bogus names increased recently as Franklin County Elections Board staffers questioned the validity of hundreds of names on registration forms and petitions for a proposed constitutional amendment to boost Ohio’s minimum wage. Most of the disputed names came from lists provided by paid solicitors working for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

The Columbus Dispatch, 8/30/06: Franklin County elections officials plan to issue subpoenas to paid solicitors suspected of forging hundreds of signatures on ballot-issue petitions and voter-registration forms. … Most have come from people paid by ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, which was blamed for similar problems with voter-registration forms in 2004.

The Plain Dealer, 8/11/06: Potentially fraudulent voter registration cards have turned up in at least three Ohio counties, and 500 have been turned over to a prosecutor to determine if a crime has been committed. Matt Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, said the 500 cards his office referred to County Prosecutor Ron O’Brien Wednesday were collected between March and July by workers for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

Cincinnati Enquirer, 10/23/04: Cuyahoga County election officials are investigating more than a thousand possible fraudulent voter registrations - including one for Jive Turkey Sr. The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported Friday that the name is one in a string of fake names on new voter rolls. Others include Dick Tracy, Mary Poppins and Michael Jordan in Defiance County.

The Columbus Dispatch, 9/8/04: A part-time worker signing up new voters for a local community group has been indicted by a Franklin County grand jury on charges he forged a registration form. … The charges stem from an investigation that began in May after the Franklin County Board of Elections discovered dozens of voter registration forms with fake names or false information. They were submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which paid workers bonuses based on the number of voters they registered.

The Columbus Dispatch, 6/3/04: A nonprofit group registering low-income and minority voters in Franklin County has fired two temporary workers thought to be the source of fake names and forged signatures on official registration forms. ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also has agreed to perform extra checks on forms turned in by its voter-registration workers before submitting them to the Franklin County Board of Elections, the group’s head organizer said yesterday.

“Well, I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we’ve got Democrats in charge of the machines.”
- Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama (Columbus Dispatch)


Yep...all a conspiracy by the Republicans to steal the election from the anoited one! Diebold personnel are going to be flying around in black helicopters come November 4 to sabotage the voting machines from the air with ray guns.

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