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QuoteRaising taxes on the higher income people is bullsh!t. The top 1 percent of wage earners pay over 39 percent of all taxes. For the most recent numbers I could find, the top 1 percent of wage earners pay about 13 times as much in taxes as the entire bottom 50 percent.
People who think that us in the top tax brackets have these magic "loopholes" are deluded. My only tax deductions are state taxes (which are very high in California), and charitable contributions (I don't have mortgage interest.) Because of the AMT, I can't even deduct all of my state taxes.
It's safe for the politicians to pick on the top wage earners because, by definition, there aren't a lot of them. It really burns me to know that if I want to work harder, and make another buck, HALF of it will go to taxes.
So how much should you be paying for the privilege of working in an advanced society with effective political, educational, communications, distribution, water, sewer, highway, legal, etc. systems that enable you to be successful?
While thinking of your response, consider how effective you would have been if born in a hut in a village in, say, Comoros or Malawi where said infrastructure does not exist.
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QuoteRaising taxes on the higher income people is bullsh!t. The top 1 percent of wage earners pay over 39 percent of all taxes. For the most recent numbers I could find, the top 1 percent of wage earners pay about 13 times as much in taxes as the entire bottom 50 percent.
People who think that us in the top tax brackets have these magic "loopholes" are deluded. My only tax deductions are state taxes (which are very high in California), and charitable contributions (I don't have mortgage interest.) Because of the AMT, I can't even deduct all of my state taxes.
It's safe for the politicians to pick on the top wage earners because, by definition, there aren't a lot of them. It really burns me to know that if I want to work harder, and make another buck, HALF of it will go to taxes.
to bad you live in ca. they have to many lazy / illegal people in that state and it is really hurting those that work hard. what was the figure that was on the bnews last week $15 billion for illegal imagration and $11 billion for welfare? something close to that. my brother paid $14000 tax on a $30000 check. why would any low income earner complain that they paid 10% or less? doesn't sound fair ? your right it isn't fair to the guy that works hard and earns alot of money.
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They were paid millions. Whether or not they _earned_ them is another matter entirely.
They did not stole those money (and those who did should go to jail). They were paid it according to their contract, which is what we typically call "earned".
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I find it hard to believe that the CEO of a company taken into bankruptcy or government ownership _earned_ very much at all.
CEO is not Allah Almighty, and has limited abilities. If several students fail the exam it doesn't necessary mean their professor didn't earn his money either.
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Will not what -- go postal?
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kbordson 8
Thank you for elegantly stating what I could not.
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They were paid millions. Whether or not they _earned_ them is another matter entirely.
They did not stole those money (and those who did should go to jail). They were paid it according to their contract, which is what we typically call "earned".Quote
I find it hard to believe that the CEO of a company taken into bankruptcy or government ownership _earned_ very much at all.
CEO is not Allah Almighty, and has limited abilities. If several students fail the exam it doesn't necessary mean their professor didn't earn his money either.
if only a couple students failled your right, but if all the students failed(like company going bankrupt) he didn't earn his money.
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We are NOT a nation of equal opportunity, contrary to streetscooby's claim/
So could you please define "equal opportunity"? It more and more looks like you have a special definition which you won't tell us (and which is probably a moving target).
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QuoteQuoteQuoteThe US Postal Service is the exception to the rule. Everything else the governement touches they royally fuck up.
That's because the United States Postal Service is an authoritarian regime.
It can be argued they are a private company with limited goervernment agency powers.
They're essentially (a couple billion on revenues of over 50B) a not for profit corporation owned entirely by the government which providies universal service to the population.
Their operations are nearly entirely self-supporting, with a tiny fraction of a percent coming from Congress to cover things like free and reduced cost mailing for selected organizations.
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if only a couple students failled your right, but if all the students failed(like company going bankrupt) he didn't earn his money.
So a couple of failures may be just bad luck or indicating problems with entities, and only constant failure indicates the person is not qualified for the job. Did I make it right? Then if all the companies this CEO was managing failed, then he probably didn't earn his money. But if only a couple companies failed, then it's just bad luck. Even world champions lose the competitions occasionally.
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QuoteQuoteRaising taxes on the higher income people is bullsh!t. The top 1 percent of wage earners pay over 39 percent of all taxes. For the most recent numbers I could find, the top 1 percent of wage earners pay about 13 times as much in taxes as the entire bottom 50 percent.
People who think that us in the top tax brackets have these magic "loopholes" are deluded. My only tax deductions are state taxes (which are very high in California), and charitable contributions (I don't have mortgage interest.) Because of the AMT, I can't even deduct all of my state taxes.
It's safe for the politicians to pick on the top wage earners because, by definition, there aren't a lot of them. It really burns me to know that if I want to work harder, and make another buck, HALF of it will go to taxes.
to bad you live in ca. they have to many lazy / illegal people in that state and it is really hurting those that work hard. what was the figure that was on the bnews last week $15 billion for illegal imagration and $11 billion for welfare? something close to that. my brother paid $14000 tax on a $30000 check. why would any low income earner complain that they paid 10% or less? doesn't sound fair ? your right it isn't fair to the guy that works hard and earns alot of money.
One thing the illegal immigrants here are not is lazy. They work hard and do it for very little money. They do not live off the welfare system.
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if only a couple students failled your right, but if all the students failed(like company going bankrupt) he didn't earn his money.
So a couple of failures may be just bad luck or indicating problems with entities, and only constant failure indicates the person is not qualified for the job. Did I make it right? Then if all the companies this CEO was managing failed, then he probably didn't earn his money. But if only a couple companies failed, then it's just bad luck. Even world champions lose the competitions occasionally.
if the ceo lost a couple percent of the profits bad coice/bad luck if the whole company goes under ceo should be left in the same condition as the company
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This is the kinder gentler Jeanne
plus next time Bill bans me it will be for 6 months...
QuoteQuoteQuoteRaising taxes on the higher income people is bullsh!t. The top 1 percent of wage earners pay over 39 percent of all taxes. For the most recent numbers I could find, the top 1 percent of wage earners pay about 13 times as much in taxes as the entire bottom 50 percent.
People who think that us in the top tax brackets have these magic "loopholes" are deluded. My only tax deductions are state taxes (which are very high in California), and charitable contributions (I don't have mortgage interest.) Because of the AMT, I can't even deduct all of my state taxes.
It's safe for the politicians to pick on the top wage earners because, by definition, there aren't a lot of them. It really burns me to know that if I want to work harder, and make another buck, HALF of it will go to taxes.
to bad you live in ca. they have to many lazy / illegal people in that state and it is really hurting those that work hard. what was the figure that was on the bnews last week $15 billion for illegal imagration and $11 billion for welfare? something close to that. my brother paid $14000 tax on a $30000 check. why would any low income earner complain that they paid 10% or less? doesn't sound fair ? your right it isn't fair to the guy that works hard and earns alot of money.
One thing the illegal immigrants here are not is lazy. They work hard and do it for very little money. They do not live off the welfare system.
yes they do - free medical is part of the welfare system. they may work hard during the day but that doesn't mean they don't abuse the system. just last week when i was in california they had the figures that i posted earlier and belive me 15 billion on illegal imigration is alot and part of the 11 billion on welfare is from illegal imigration. the numbers don't lie.
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if the ceo lost a couple percent of the profits bad coice/bad luck if the whole company goes under ceo should be left in the same condition as the company
Then we need to see if the company really went down under this CEO, and not because of market conditions, decisions of owners, board of directors or bad decisions by previous CEO. There are situation when even the good prepared people doing their best still cannot win against circumstances. For example I would not claim airline bankruptcies after 09/11 were CEO faults.
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if the ceo lost a couple percent of the profits bad coice/bad luck if the whole company goes under ceo should be left in the same condition as the company
Then we need to see if the company really went down under this CEO, and not because of market conditions, decisions of owners, board of directors or bad decisions by previous CEO. There are situation when even the good prepared people doing their best still cannot win against circumstances. For example I would not claim airline bankruptcies after 09/11 were CEO faults.
southwest did ok, maybe coe's should take some lessons from them
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteRaising taxes on the higher income people is bullsh!t. The top 1 percent of wage earners pay over 39 percent of all taxes. For the most recent numbers I could find, the top 1 percent of wage earners pay about 13 times as much in taxes as the entire bottom 50 percent.
People who think that us in the top tax brackets have these magic "loopholes" are deluded. My only tax deductions are state taxes (which are very high in California), and charitable contributions (I don't have mortgage interest.) Because of the AMT, I can't even deduct all of my state taxes.
It's safe for the politicians to pick on the top wage earners because, by definition, there aren't a lot of them. It really burns me to know that if I want to work harder, and make another buck, HALF of it will go to taxes.
to bad you live in ca. they have to many lazy / illegal people in that state and it is really hurting those that work hard. what was the figure that was on the bnews last week $15 billion for illegal imagration and $11 billion for welfare? something close to that. my brother paid $14000 tax on a $30000 check. why would any low income earner complain that they paid 10% or less? doesn't sound fair ? your right it isn't fair to the guy that works hard and earns alot of money.
One thing the illegal immigrants here are not is lazy. They work hard and do it for very little money. They do not live off the welfare system.
yes they do - free medical is part of the welfare system. they may work hard during the day but that doesn't mean they don't abuse the system. just last week when i was in california they had the figures that i posted earlier and belive me 15 billion on illegal imigration is alot and part of the 11 billion on welfare is from illegal imigration. the numbers don't lie.
I think your idea of lazy is a bit off. Sure the illegal immigrants cost tax payers money however to take advantage of the only medical services you can afford is not lazy. Have you ever seen a hispanic pan handler? I have been looking for 10 years now(when someone pointed out there aren't any) and have yet to see one. Opportunistic? Sure? Lazy. Nope.
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QuoteQuoteQuoteRaising taxes on the higher income people is bullsh!t. The top 1 percent of wage earners pay over 39 percent of all taxes. For the most recent numbers I could find, the top 1 percent of wage earners pay about 13 times as much in taxes as the entire bottom 50 percent.
People who think that us in the top tax brackets have these magic "loopholes" are deluded. My only tax deductions are state taxes (which are very high in California), and charitable contributions (I don't have mortgage interest.) Because of the AMT, I can't even deduct all of my state taxes.
It's safe for the politicians to pick on the top wage earners because, by definition, there aren't a lot of them. It really burns me to know that if I want to work harder, and make another buck, HALF of it will go to taxes.
to bad you live in ca. they have to many lazy / illegal people in that state and it is really hurting those that work hard. what was the figure that was on the bnews last week $15 billion for illegal imagration and $11 billion for welfare? something close to that. my brother paid $14000 tax on a $30000 check. why would any low income earner complain that they paid 10% or less? doesn't sound fair ? your right it isn't fair to the guy that works hard and earns alot of money.
One thing the illegal immigrants here are not is lazy. They work hard and do it for very little money. They do not live off the welfare system.
california spent 2.2 billion just on education for illegal imagrants
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Ron 10
QuoteWithout a profit motive, the government can do better than private industry. I've shipped things via the US postal service for 1/3 the price of Fed-Ex or UPS and gotten better service (shorter wait times and Saturday delivery).
It should be noted that the Postal Service has by law a monopoly that helps them. As for service...Since I work for one of the companies you mentioned I know its service level compared to the others and the Post office is not at the top of any list.
Cheap? Yes. High level of service is up for debate. If you had to get your Grandmothers wedding ring to your sister tomorrow....Who would you send it with?
And name one Govt program that worked really well?
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
QuoteQuoteWithout a profit motive, the government can do better than private industry. I've shipped things via the US postal service for 1/3 the price of Fed-Ex or UPS and gotten better service (shorter wait times and Saturday delivery).
It should be noted that the Postal Service has by law a monopoly that helps them.
Fed-Ex, UPS, and DHL all provide door-to-door letter and package delivery.
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As for service...Since I work for one of the companies you mentioned I know its service level compared to the others and the Post office is not at the top of any list.
They get Netflix DVDs between my house and the shipping depot within 24 hours six days a week. That's service.
Being both affordable and government subsidized they don't have enough employees for peak hours at the post office. That's expected, and I can visit the post office off-peak, pay for pickup, etc. when that's unacceptable.
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Cheap? Yes. High level of service is up for debate. If you had to get your Grandmothers wedding ring to your sister tomorrow....Who would you send it with?
I'd pay a pile of money to Fed-Ex for guaranteed 10am delivery, although if I planned a day ahead I wouldn't hesitate to use next-day USPS.
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The death penalty?
QuoteThe death penalty?
ahem
http://executions.justsickshit.com/execution-screw-ups-yep-should-have-died-but-something-went-wrong/
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Ron 10
QuoteFed-Ex, UPS, and DHL all provide door-to-door letter and package delivery
Not nearly the same. The Post office is Govt run and both them and UPS make tons on the parcel service.
QuoteI'd pay a pile of money to Fed-Ex for guaranteed 10am delivery, although if I planned a day ahead I wouldn't hesitate to use next-day USPS.
Then clearly they don't have the same quality of service.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
People who think that us in the top tax brackets have these magic "loopholes" are deluded. My only tax deductions are state taxes (which are very high in California), and charitable contributions (I don't have mortgage interest.) Because of the AMT, I can't even deduct all of my state taxes.
It's safe for the politicians to pick on the top wage earners because, by definition, there aren't a lot of them. It really burns me to know that if I want to work harder, and make another buck, HALF of it will go to taxes.
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